I thought I;d open up a thread for Savatage,since they never really had an official thread.I got Wake Of Magellan its a extraordinary album my fav. track has got to be "Turns To Me".

Ive never really gotten into their material, i should look into a few of their albums, i think ive heard around 3 songs.

Gah my friend made me listen to their version of 'carol of the bells' which as always been my favorite christmas song ever. I loved it!!! Other than that, they're still a great band

Written by meTalcoholic on 17.05.2006 at 01:37

Gah my friend made me listen to their version of 'carol of the bells' which as always been my favorite christmas song ever. I loved it!!! Other than that, they're still a great band

Yeah they are definitley different and that is why I enjoy their music so much.

Written by Mega-Slayer on 17.05.2006 at 01:42

Written by meTalcoholic on 17.05.2006 at 01:37

Gah my friend made me listen to their version of 'carol of the bells' which as always been my favorite christmas song ever. I loved it!!! Other than that, they're still a great band

Yeah they are definitley different and that is why I enjoy their music so much.

I agree, there's something very unique and special about them.

I'm never quite sure how to feel about Savatage. 'Gutter Ballet' just rips me apart, it's so beautiful... Jon Oliva's voice just hurts in all the right ways. He's got a perfect combination of great singing mixed with whisky and cigarettes... like listening to an angel that's been run through a jet engine. Criss Oliva (R.I.P.) had a magical touch with his guitar, with such a light, sparkling technique that combined a great sense of strong melodic hooks with a penchant for shred solos that never went over-the-top.

But this makes it sound like their whole career was spotless and perfect... which I don't want to claim. Zak Stevens isn't a bad singer... but he certainly isn't Jon Oliva. And losing Criss Oliva so senselessly just left the band without enough good keen guitar sense to put together songs quite as awesome as what he could do with his brother.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra is, I think, a better route for Savatage members, as it enables them to bring metal to a community which otherwise wouldn't respect it at all. I've seen TSO live twice, and nowhere else will I be able to see 20-year old guys in leather jackets headbanging next to a 60-year old woman in an evening gown and know that both of them are enjoying the same performance.

Written by Geddysciple on 17.05.2006 at 04:35

I'm never quite sure how to feel about Savatage. 'Gutter Ballet' just rips me apart, it's so beautiful... Jon Oliva's voice just hurts in all the right ways. He's got a perfect combination of great singing mixed with whisky and cigarettes... like listening to an angel that's been run through a jet engine. Criss Oliva (R.I.P.) had a magical touch with his guitar, with such a light, sparkling technique that combined a great sense of strong melodic hooks with a penchant for shred solos that never went over-the-top.

But this makes it sound like their whole career was spotless and perfect... which I don't want to claim. Zak Stevens isn't a bad singer... but he certainly isn't Jon Oliva. And losing Criss Oliva so senselessly just left the band without enough good keen guitar sense to put together songs quite as awesome as what he could do with his brother.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra is, I think, a better route for Savatage members, as it enables them to bring metal to a community which otherwise wouldn't respect it at all. I've seen TSO live twice, and nowhere else will I be able to see 20-year old guys in leather jackets headbanging next to a 60-year old woman in an evening gown and know that both of them are enjoying the same performance.

well said

Written by Geddysciple on 17.05.2006 at 04:35

I'm never quite sure how to feel about Savatage. 'Gutter Ballet' just rips me apart, it's so beautiful... Jon Oliva's voice just hurts in all the right ways. He's got a perfect combination of great singing mixed with whisky and cigarettes... like listening to an angel that's been run through a jet engine. Criss Oliva (R.I.P.) had a magical touch with his guitar, with such a light, sparkling technique that combined a great sense of strong melodic hooks with a penchant for shred solos that never went over-the-top.

But this makes it sound like their whole career was spotless and perfect... which I don't want to claim. Zak Stevens isn't a bad singer... but he certainly isn't Jon Oliva. And losing Criss Oliva so senselessly just left the band without enough good keen guitar sense to put together songs quite as awesome as what he could do with his brother.

Trans-Siberian Orchestra is, I think, a better route for Savatage members, as it enables them to bring metal to a community which otherwise wouldn't respect it at all. I've seen TSO live twice, and nowhere else will I be able to see 20-year old guys in leather jackets headbanging next to a 60-year old woman in an evening gown and know that both of them are enjoying the same performance.

Amazingly you have described the great band and done justice to them which i wudnt have been able to do so decided to quote ya.

One thing thats missing is the fact that Savatage are a very underrated band and in my country among people listening to metal very few even know about them and i doubt it would differ around the world.

I have only ever heard Dead Winter Dead. I really liked it, but not to the point where im desperate for more.

Just a question for long time fans of Savatage... Where dose dead winter dead stand in your minds amongst Savatage albums? and if i were to think about getting another album by Savatage, which would you guys suggest?

What a great band!!! I like them since the 80's (past Century ) and is one of the few metal bands that my son likes, he's fanatic of Savatage indeed and he likes Trans-Siberian Orchestra too. I think that "Hall of the Mountain King", Edge of Thorns" and "Dead Winter Dead" are their best albums. "Dead Winter Dead" is a masterpiece!!!! Did you know that Jeff Waters (Annihilator) and Alex Skolnick (Testamente) played with Savatage? I new it recently

Written by Conemetal on 19.05.2006 at 02:02

What a great band!!! I like them since the 80's (past Century ) and is one of the few metal bands that my son likes, he's fanatic of Savatage indeed and he likes Trans-Siberian Orchestra too. I think that "Hall of the Mountain King", Edge of Thorns" and "Dead Winter Dead" are their best albums. "Dead Winter Dead" is a masterpiece!!!! Did you know that Jeff Waters (Annihilator) and Alex Skolnick (Testamente) played with Savatage? I new it recently

Yeah Alex played guitar on "Handful Of Rain".

Savatage...one great Gorgeous band !!! I simply adore Pitrelli's guitar solos ... my fav album must be Gutter Ballet ...Oliva's voice is incredible...teares my soul out

I think they are a fortunate band to have had some really fantastic guitarist Alex Skolnick is fantastic, im also a testament fan, and his work there was amazing, i heard he was in Savatage, but i havnt heard his work with them. Al Pitrelli is fantastic, the first time i heard him was with Megadeth on The World Needs a Hero, i thought i would check out his work with Savatage, and i do enjoy this band alot. Definately they deserve so much more credit than they get.

I love that guys. One of my fav band ever. Even their worst songs are really good

Conemetal Another sign for the fact that once Savatage get a fan, they are hooked for the rest of their life. (c) )

P.S.Who heard their new frontman?

Written by [user id=9706] on 24.05.2006 at 00:01

I love that guys. One of my fav band ever. Even their worst songs are really good

Conemetal Another sign for the fact that once Savatage get a fan, they are hooked for the rest of their life. (c) )

P.S.Who heard their new frontman?

Are you talking about Damond Jiniya?

Yeah, about him. Who can share some links with Jiniya on vocals?

I would like some tunes with Jiniya too...i only heard chance with him...

Well...i cant say anything about savatage...
The only thing i can say is that along with death its my favorite band.
Favorite album? Streets, close followeed by gutter ballet...
Nothing more to say, just let me listen to my savatage...ehehehe

Savatage are good and amzing ban, one of old school great bands, I think thay had 4 peroids
1th
Avatar and early albums.
From ''Sirens'' to ''Fight for Rock''
2end are more ehavyer and hairy pariod
''Hail of the Mountain King'' till ''Streets: A Rock Opera''
3th well acident and Oliva RIP and after it band change
''Edge of Thorns'' and ''Hundful of Ruin''
4th ist more like classic Savatage
''Death Winter Dead'' till ''Poets and Madman'' what a great titles thay are great
I like all albums but ''Hail of The Mountain King'' ''Dead Winte Dead'' and ''Poets and Madman''

Some covers remaind me King Diamond

One of the greatest bands of all time.Theres no one like em and no one will ever be. I love how they incorporate piano.I own Edge of Thorns,and Dead Winter Dead,but have a heard a lot of other songs from them. Dead Winter Dead has to be one of the most beautiful albums I've ever heard. The song "Not What You See" is absolutely beautiful especially when the vocal layering comes in,god I love that song. My favorite by them is probably Alone You Breathe off of A Handful of Rain,Conversations Piece and Follow Me are both really good as well from the Edge of Thorns albums. Criss Oliva should also be very missed,seeing as he was one of the greatest guitarists of all time. Jon Oliva is a complete genius and I also love Zak Stevens' voice,I even own Circle II Circle hahaha. Well Ive rambled on quite abit im sure you all can tell how much I enjoy these guys.

Savatage - Rare Pro-Shot Video Footage From 1992 And 1997 Available Online :

Savatage fans can check out two rare Savatage performances that have surfaced on YouTube. Go to this location to check out the band performing 'Tonight He Grins Again' at the Tampa Music Awards in 1992. The clip is believed to be some of the best existing live footage of the band's Streets album line-up (Jon Oliva, Criss Oliva, Steve Wacholz, Johnny Lee Middleton).

The second clip is from a special VIVA TV broadcast filmed during The Wake Of Magellan tour in 1997 in Cologne, Germany. Go to this location to check out 'Turns To Me' performed by the Savatage line-up of Zak Stevens, Jon Oliva, Chris Caffery, Al Pitrelli, Johnny Lee Middleton and Jeff Plate.

Sweet eh

I like most of their older stuff. Favourites are (of course) The Hall of the
Mountain King and Gutter Ballett. Saw them live and it was a great atmos-
here...!

Oliva's voice reminds me A LOT of Robert Plant's [Led Zepelin] voice...it's quite simmilar and it adds a new dimension of appreciation for me lol. But Zak Stevens or Damond Jiniya [not sure which...whoever did Edge of Thorns] sounds too much like every other prog/80s metal band voice I've heard [i.e Bruce Dickenson, Tim Owens, James LaBrie], not that it's bad, just unoriginal.

my fav 2 songs are hall of the mountain king and edge of thorns,
but just a quick question
ive got two versions of hall of the mountain knig, one has got a three minute intro improvising over the classical version and the other doesn't. which one is corrcet

I disagree of Ibanez... Zak Stevens (who recorded EOT, Damond Jynia never reocorded studio or live albums with savatage, just singed live) is a great and complet vocalist, he is very original too... He can sing Power metal, he can sing hard rock, he can sing progressive tunes, he can sing agressive ones, he can growl (not as good as jon, but...eheh)...etc...

Anyway... I got some Savatage live with Damond Jynia now...if anyone want, just contact me at msn.

Top 5 savatage albums:

1-Streets: A rock Opera
2-Gutter Ballet
3-Edge of Thorns
4-The Wake of Magellan
5-Dead winter Dead

Written by BurbotsRevenge on 29.09.2006 at 04:49

my fav 2 songs are hall of the mountain king and edge of thorns,
but just a quick question
ive got two versions of hall of the mountain knig, one has got a three minute intro improvising over the classical version and the other doesn't. which one is corrcet

I never had hear there are other vesre of song maybe its radio verse or some live song, because usualy radio songs are shorter how CD stuff

with the band being from america, and it having tons of successful offsrpings like Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Jon Olivia's Pain, Circle II Circle, you would think the band would be a whole lot more popular....

but yeah, i went to almost all the cd stores in around my area, and the best they can do is have other metal bands like Bathory, and others...but nothing by savatage, or its offsprings. i went into 3 states in america to do the same, and still, nothing!

i'm thinking of getting a couple of savatage AND john oliva's pain albums...

maybe 2 of savatage, and the 3rd of john olivia

since i'm a noob to either bands, would you guys came to recomend me anything?

Written by Soliloquy on 31.10.2006 at 01:09

i'm thinking of getting a couple of savatage AND john oliva's pain albums...

maybe 2 of savatage, and the 3rd of john olivia

since i'm a noob to either bands, would you guys came to recomend me anything?

Jon Oliva's Pain has only released two albums, so good luck trying to find the thrid one

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 31.10.2006 at 08:46

Written by Soliloquy on 31.10.2006 at 01:09

i'm thinking of getting a couple of savatage AND john oliva's pain albums...

maybe 2 of savatage, and the 3rd of john olivia

since i'm a noob to either bands, would you guys came to recomend me anything?

Jon Oliva's Pain has only released two albums, so good luck trying to find the thrid one

no i mean, that i am thinking of getting 3 albums. the first 2 would be ANY albums released by savatag. and the 3rd album that i will get would be one of john oliva's pain album. doesnt matter which one.

but yeah, which 2 by savatage should i get. and which one from john oliva's pain?

aright..so i think i have decided....i'm thinking of getting the following albums:

Streets: A Rock Opera

and arguing between Edge of Thorns or Dead Winter Dead....

which one should i get? the edge of thorns and dead winter dead have different vocalists...so can one be compared to the other?