Written by Stalker on 18.10.2007 at 22:25

Well, you sure like this album.... I dont consider it that good, because if Leprosy gets 9.7, then Symbolic and The Sound Of Perseverance should get 12.7 at least. But very enjoyable album, all in all. Drums are the weakest point IMO.

Written by Deadmeat on 24.03.2010 at 08:56

Written by Stalker on 18.10.2007 at 22:25

Well, you sure like this album.... I dont consider it that good, because if Leprosy gets 9.7, then Symbolic and The Sound Of Perseverance should get 12.7 at least. But very enjoyable album, all in all. Drums are the weakest point IMO.

how can you compare this album with those 2? they have a very different style...

Written by Stalker on 24.03.2010 at 09:41

Written by Deadmeat on 24.03.2010 at 08:56

Written by Stalker on 18.10.2007 at 22:25

Well, you sure like this album.... I dont consider it that good, because if Leprosy gets 9.7, then Symbolic and The Sound Of Perseverance should get 12.7 at least. But very enjoyable album, all in all. Drums are the weakest point IMO.

how can you compare this album with those 2? they have a very different style...

But you can compare work of 17 yr old boys and that of a mature experienced musician such as Schuldiner was on Deaths later albums.

Written by Stalker on 18.10.2007 at 22:25

Well, you sure like this album.... I dont consider it that good, because if Leprosy gets 9.7, then Symbolic and The Sound Of Perseverance should get 12.7 at least. But very enjoyable album, all in all. Drums are the weakest point IMO.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.04.2010 at 21:19

@Stalker, why do you say 17 year old boy when Chuck was 21 when he wrote Leprosy?
And another thing, it is impossible to compare Leprosy to Symbolic and Sound Of Perseverance because Leprosy is pure death metal whereas Symbolic only has some lsights biots of DM left in it and SoP totally none whatsoever.
And your analogy about mature musicians doesn't cut it cause Metallica as musiocians are also way more mature nowadays than when they recorded their first three albums and everyone agrees those first three are way way better than anything they have done after AJFA (which imo is already a lot worse)

Written by Stalker on 04.04.2010 at 01:48

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.04.2010 at 21:19

@Stalker, why do you say 17 year old boy when Chuck was 21 when he wrote Leprosy?
And another thing, it is impossible to compare Leprosy to Symbolic and Sound Of Perseverance because Leprosy is pure death metal whereas Symbolic only has some lsights biots of DM left in it and SoP totally none whatsoever.
And your analogy about mature musicians doesn't cut it cause Metallica as musiocians are also way more mature nowadays than when they recorded their first three albums and everyone agrees those first three are way way better than anything they have done after AJFA (which imo is already a lot worse)

Ok first - you are totally right about it being a matter of personal preference.
Second - yeah they are pretty much incomparable concerning the music style but, what I wanted to say by "17 (or 19 as you say) at the time of Scream Bloody Gore" - their age doesnt really matter there, but sheer musical and technical experience. No one expects form a band that their 1st albums is the best, unless they spoil in time like the aforementioned Metallica, which is definitely not the case with Death. Changed style - yes; became worse - hell no.
So on the first 2 albums you have simple riffs, very primitive solos, garbage lyrics about gore, all in all - exactly what death metal was about. (and I DO enjoy Leprosy, I didnt mean anything bad by stating its obvious simplicity) On the other hand you have technically more complex structures, refined songs, some great musicians like Gene Hoglan and later Steve DiGiorgio, philosophical, social and other lyrics, some of which in consider to be among the best in metal. Those are the things you can compare and be less subjective.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.04.2010 at 02:08

Written by Stalker on 04.04.2010 at 01:48

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.04.2010 at 21:19

@Stalker, why do you say 17 year old boy when Chuck was 21 when he wrote Leprosy?
And another thing, it is impossible to compare Leprosy to Symbolic and Sound Of Perseverance because Leprosy is pure death metal whereas Symbolic only has some lsights biots of DM left in it and SoP totally none whatsoever.
And your analogy about mature musicians doesn't cut it cause Metallica as musiocians are also way more mature nowadays than when they recorded their first three albums and everyone agrees those first three are way way better than anything they have done after AJFA (which imo is already a lot worse)

Ok first - you are totally right about it being a matter of personal preference.
Second - yeah they are pretty much incomparable concerning the music style but, what I wanted to say by "17 (or 19 as you say) at the time of Scream Bloody Gore" - their age doesnt really matter there, but sheer musical and technical experience. No one expects form a band that their 1st albums is the best, unless they spoil in time like the aforementioned Metallica, which is definitely not the case with Death. Changed style - yes; became worse - hell no.
So on the first 2 albums you have simple riffs, very primitive solos, garbage lyrics about gore, all in all - exactly what death metal was about. (and I DO enjoy Leprosy, I didnt mean anything bad by stating its obvious simplicity) On the other hand you have technically more complex structures, refined songs, some great musicians like Gene Hoglan and later Steve DiGiorgio, philosophical, social and other lyrics, some of which in consider to be among the best in metal. Those are the things you can compare and be less subjective.

Those albums are more technical, true. Better lyrics, depends on what you want from your lyrics, that is if you want anything at all from them. Songs refined? I would call it more boring, less daring.
The only aspect you can be objective about is the technicality level.
And by concentrating on the technicality I would dare say Death did become worse and eventually also less original.

Written by Stalker on 04.04.2010 at 02:54


Well, then we must simply disagree and leave it like that Personal preference wins, no matter what.

Written by Haiwaan Das on 13.01.2012 at 10:43

This album along with some of the early work of Voivod are responsible for whole Extreme Technical Thrash genre. A must have and must listen album.

Written by Angelic Storm on 14.01.2012 at 07:17

Written by Haiwaan Das on 13.01.2012 at 10:43

This album along with some of the early work of Voivod are responsible for whole Extreme Technical Thrash genre. A must have and must listen album.

"Leprosy" isn't very technical at all, especially not when compared to the likes of "Human", and all the albums that came after that. And it's a death metal album, not a thrash album.

Written by Haiwaan Das on 14.01.2012 at 13:23
we grew up listening to Death as pioneer Technical Thrash Metal both musically and lyrically and we just can't get it out of our mind.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 14.01.2012 at 13:31

Written by Haiwaan Das on 14.01.2012 at 13:23
we grew up listening to Death as pioneer Technical Thrash Metal both musically and lyrically and we just can't get it out of our mind.

Welp, it's still wrong, I get your point though but it doesn't make it any less valid regardless of how inspirational it might have been for thrash metal, it's not thrash under any light.

Written by Haiwaan Das on 14.01.2012 at 16:44
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Written by Haiwaan Das on 14.01.2012 at 16:44

Some of the band still confuses like Deicide, they sing always fighting against JESU CHRISTO but they are death metal, very funny but it is how it is.

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There's not anything new in this. Satanic and anti-christian lyrics are legion in Death Metal. This kind of lyric is by far not limited to Black Metal.