In my opinion u cant push a friend into metal unless she/he is really into that type of music. its all about taste. i think u should let her try all kinds and choose what she likes.

To the above post, it doesn't seem like he's pushing her into metal at all. From what I gather from his post she likes bands that are just on the line
of being metal.
That being said, I can only give ya the band October Tide, I have no idea if they were mentioned or not but eh.

Written by Roro on 08.03.2010 at 00:19

In my opinion u cant push a friend into metal unless she/he is really into that type of music. its all about taste. i think u should let her try all kinds and choose what she likes.

Like cityarmy said, I'm not forcing her into anything. She told me she wants to get into more extreme bands but wanted some sort of gateway music, because when I exposed her to the likes of Vader, Immortal, Austere, Benighted, Shining, etc. she was interested but not sold. Being that I didn't really go through any gateway bands (I discovered the ones I know after finding a love for extreme genres), I was asking people on here to recommend me some.

That being said, since I started this topic she's learned to appreciate Tiamat, Rapture, Shape of Despair, Mar De Grises, Ulver, Hanging Garden, and Depressed Mode. Most of the other "big" bands mentioned she already heard of (liked most of them with the exception of Opeth and Wolves in the Throne Room). She still listens to a lot of her pop music as well and I don't question it, after all people have different tastes as you said.

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to clarify that I'm not some elitist who forces my friends into believing their music is garbage because "metal is the way!"

Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.03.2010 at 20:31

Written by Roro on 08.03.2010 at 00:19

In my opinion u cant push a friend into metal unless she/he is really into that type of music. its all about taste. i think u should let her try all kinds and choose what she likes.

Like cityarmy said, I'm not forcing her into anything. She told me she wants to get into more extreme bands but wanted some sort of gateway music, because when I exposed her to the likes of Vader, Immortal, Austere, Benighted, Shining, etc. she was interested but not sold. Being that I didn't really go through any gateway bands (I discovered the ones I know after finding a love for extreme genres), I was asking people on here to recommend me some.

That being said, since I started this topic she's learned to appreciate Tiamat, Rapture, Shape of Despair, Mar De Grises, Ulver, Hanging Garden, and Depressed Mode. Most of the other "big" bands mentioned she already heard of (liked most of them with the exception of Opeth and Wolves in the Throne Room). She still listens to a lot of her pop music as well and I don't question it, after all people have different tastes as you said.

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to clarify that I'm not some elitist who forces my friends into believing their music is garbage because "metal is the way!"

Sounds like she is really starting to find her way around some good bands, hopefully she continues to find more she likes. I know I started out very reserved in my metal tastes, and now I'd like to think that I'm pretty diverse in what metal sub-genres I enjoy. It's all about finding that music that makes you say "Wow!"

Hmm.. maybe u can try to give her more of the genre she likes and gradually u give her mixed genre. for example, if she likes death, next time try to give her death/ black band till she adapts to black bands. its a suggestion afterall

Written by MeloDeathViking on 08.03.2010 at 21:33

It's all about finding that music that makes you say "Wow!"

True.

And after being into metal for 31 years (coming September) that is still what I am looking for and also achieving on a regular basis.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.03.2010 at 02:59

Written by MeloDeathViking on 08.03.2010 at 21:33

It's all about finding that music that makes you say "Wow!"

True.

And after being into metal for 31 years (coming September) that is still what I am looking for and also achieving on a regular basis.

I'll third that opinion, discovering new sounds... new experiences is the main reason to why I listen to music on a regular basis.

Well spoken

Get her to bed! is the only good advice. ... but don't be brutal )) Leave that to music )

Angra
After Forever
Aghora
Blind Guardian
Epica
Evergrey
Iron Maiden
Metallica
Nightwish
Stratovarious
Symphony-X

...my cheesy friends & mom likes these groups so maybe that'll help hehe

Don't forget Amorphis, my grandma loves them.

Based on what my Wife gets into

NIN - sexy, minimal, powerful.
Devin Townsend - Terria
Strapping Young Lad - (borderline)
Tool
Bloodsimple - more groove metal, but AMAZING vocalist. Very well written songs


Also
GORGORORTH - seems to tick most of the boxes, especially last 2 albums "Ad Majorum Satanhaus Gloriam" and "Quantos Possunt Ad Satanitatem Trahunt" my wife said she'd really dig it if it wasn't for the harsh vox, so maybe your friend would dig it in entirety...
CULT OF LUNA - Post metal
ISIS - Post metal

BURZUM

Meshuggah? my wife also enjoys them.

And let us not forget

BLATHERSKITE - http://www.myspace.com/blatherskite
Where the Wasteland Ends

lolz

HELP! Lets get it straight: I need tips to get a parrot into metal, Really!
This genntelman of mine likes pop and dances to it but is sorta scared of metal songs. Since HE is the BOSS, it's me who has to listen to some shitty pop with him everyday!
Any ideas?

Written by AiwiAstwihad on 27.03.2010 at 22:15

HELP! Lets get it straight: I need tips to get a parrot into metal, Really!
This genntelman of mine likes pop and dances to it but is sorta scared of metal songs. Since HE is the BOSS, it's me who has to listen to some shitty pop with him everyday!
Any ideas?

Theatre Of Tragedy has an album called "Assembly"... it's the most electronic and danceable industrial poppy gothic disco metal album ever made... any tro0 metal fan is terrified by this album...

But your parrot might like it...

If you can get "Twitch" by Ministry, that might be a gateway...
The closest thing to Depeche Mode... then ramp him up from there with "The Land of Rape and Honey"
Nine Inch Nails from there I think...
Also maybe Evanesance???
Filter are another good industrial cross over type of thing
Devin Townsend, "Terria" and "Synchestra" are both symphonic masterpieces, and his vocals are top notch...
Or some old school Kyuss, that's pretty catchy.

Written by Norm on 21.03.2010 at 03:09

Can't believe no one has said this...

The best way to help a friend get more involved with Metal is to take them to shows with you...

u'r right!
CONCERTS BABE CONCERTS!!!

so tell us troy, does ur friend go any further ?

Written by Ernis on 28.03.2010 at 00:45

Theatre Of Tragedy has an album called "Assembly"... it's the most electronic and danceable industrial poppy gothic disco metal album ever made... any tro0 metal fan is terrified by this album...

But your parrot might like it...

Written by Vathek on 28.03.2010 at 09:53

If you can get "Twitch" by Ministry, that might be a gateway...
The closest thing to Depeche Mode... then ramp him up from there with "The Land of Rape and Honey"
Nine Inch Nails from there I think...
Also maybe Evanesance???
Filter are another good industrial cross over type of thing
Devin Townsend, "Terria" and "Synchestra" are both symphonic masterpieces, and his vocals are top notch...
Or some old school Kyuss, that's pretty catchy.

Thanks.
So far have tried Theatre Of Tragedy and Ministry. They seem to be working!
Gotta try the rest in addition to Scorpions and Deep Purple.

Christ, Metal is not a cult.
Yet let him listen Arch Enemy, Early Metallica, Melodic Death metal, Children of Bodom or Power metal or that sort.
GL.

Introduce her to more metalheads, they might have different tastes and perhaps se would find different approaches towards the same genre.

@Troy Gallant: Hey, why don't you just leave her discover bands on her own? It's always a pleasure for a music fan to find out what he/she's into that way, without being either influenced or guided by someone. I assume it's the best way for every person who likes any kind of music to become a true fan of it.

It seems that she is into Melodic stuff so definitely Rapture - Songs for the Withering and Rapture - Silent Stage, also maybe Alcest - Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde and Alcest - Écailles de Lune, Amesoeurs - Amesoeurs and maybe some Edge of Sanity. Not really metal but she might enjoy Have a Nice Life - Deathconsciousness (harder to digest then the other albums). One for the road, The Ocean - Precambrian. Not all of them are melodic but I think they can help open up towards metal, at least those are some of the albums I use on my non-metalhead friends.

Written by Roro on 29.03.2010 at 14:51

so tell us troy, does ur friend go any further ?

Sorry for the late response, I forget that I don't get notified of people posting in this thread. Anyway, she's come to like a lot of more extreme bands:

Anorexia Nervosa, Barren Earth, Cobalt, Dawn of Tears, Diabolical Masquerade... the list goes on.

As for suggestions regarding concerts and letting her discover music on her own: firstly, I don't attend concerts on account of minor agoraphobia; secondly, she requested that I suggest more bands for her as she is rather lazy when it comes to searching for new music.

Thanks again to everyone for all of your suggestions - not one has been overlooked (with the exception of a handful of Marcel's suggestions )

I just read the topic title fast, "Help Me Get A Friend", and thought WTF?

Written by Troy Killjoy on 19.04.2010 at 03:23

not one has been overlooked (with the exception of a handful of Marcel's suggestions )

Why oh why?
Too lazy to properly search for them?

Written by Ernis on 28.03.2010 at 00:45

Theatre Of Tragedy has an album called "Assembly"... it's the most electronic and danceable industrial poppy gothic disco metal album ever made... any tro0 metal fan is terrified by this album...

But your parrot might like it...

I friggin love that cd. It just screams: HOT MUSIC.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.04.2010 at 22:30

Why oh why?
Too lazy to properly search for them?

There's just one too many obscure bands...

She can put any bands she likes on either grooveshark,last.fm or gnoosic.Any of these sites will list band with similar styles or influences and both grooveshark and last.fm will provide samples of music.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 19.04.2010 at 23:52

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.04.2010 at 22:30

Why oh why?
Too lazy to properly search for them?

There's just one too many obscure bands...

Such as?
Actually, usually the obscure bands are better than the well-known ones

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.04.2010 at 11:12

Such as?
Actually, usually the obscure bands are better than the well-known ones

Well older bands like Saint Vitus, The Obsessed and Pentagram aren't obscure, but she didn't like their sound. The particular band I was referring to though is Iron Void, who only have a live album according to M-A.

And I definitely agree that obscure bands are often better than commercial bands - the hard part is discovering them.