VileVick-Bryant
Posts: 803 |
15.05.2018 - 13:55Rating: 6
While I'll admit some of it that I heard sounds interesting so far, I don't know what I really think about this album yet. I think I can get used to the death metal growls and some of the other stuff. To be honest this didn't bother me as much as Kitties Of Death. The vocals on that was like nails on a chalkboard
Loading...
|
Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
Posts: 5989 |
Written by VileVick-Bryant on 15.05.2018 at 13:55
While I'll admit some of it that I heard sounds interesting so far, I don't know what I really think about this album yet. I think I can get used to the death metal growls and some of the other stuff. To be honest this didn't bother me as much as Kitties Of Death. The vocals on that was like nails on a chalkboard
Yeah that's kinda what I'm thinking as well... the clean vocals here (bar those operatic ones, which are actually quite impressive) can definitely get quite bothersome, but they somewhat serve the purpose of the utter ridiculousness and social lampooning at the heart of the band. And yes, there are certainly worse examples out there
----
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
~ II. VII
Loading...
|
Fat & Sassy! ElitePosts: 3857 |
*listens to album as I browse their social media pages*
As a self-appointed authority on irony, this is so beyond edgy and try-hard that it made me cringe out of my skin. But I guess that level of discomfort is pretty fucking metal, huh? Also, I really do appreciate the level of dedication to the bit, for better or for worse.
Loading...
|
X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 15.05.2018 at 19:02 Also, I really do appreciate the level of dedication to the bit, for better or for worse.
"A+ for effort" is certainly my take away as well.
As for the project as a whole: I will keep it in mind because I want to like it. I find a sense of vague dadaism in how many opinions it wants to voice... But I simply can not enjoy one of such voices.
Meanwhile I'm gonna sit down and wait for new Yayla or Chaoscunt releases.
----
Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
Loading...
|
Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
Posts: 5989 |
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 15.05.2018 at 19:02
*listens to album as I browse their social media pages*
As a self-appointed authority on irony, this is so beyond edgy and try-hard that it made me cringe out of my skin. But I guess that level of discomfort is pretty fucking metal, huh? Also, I really do appreciate the level of dedication to the bit, for better or for worse.
Well I know you like some downright wacky shit man, so I can certainly appreciate when you say a band is just a little too much for you
I admittedly had more faults with this album than this review may really let on upon initially checking out the band. Eventually though I just kind of came to admit "well, they're definitely doing a good job at unsettling and getting the point across!", and I think that led to me getting a lot more into it. Besides, I feel like I've really approached a time in my listening where I don't really go into albums looking for one thing over another, but just willing to experience what the artists themselves want to present. And Pink Metal is, uh..... definitely one hell of a presentation
----
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
~ II. VII
Loading...
|
Bad English Tage Westerlund
Posts: 62004 |
What is this, punks is mot dead, but a bit blackish metallish rebellish style? funny song tittles,
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.
Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"
I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
|
flightoficarus Stamp Tramp
Posts: 1116 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 15.05.2018 at 00:01
Written by flightoficarus on 14.05.2018 at 23:11
I'd expect nothing less of something promoted by Emir.
He's gonna get himself deported back to Turkey someday with this shit, I swear
Seriously lol. Love your signature btw. Twin Peaks is amazing.
Loading...
|
Czerny Reiter
Posts: 291 |
Loading...
|
Vermoorden
Posts: 141 |
16.05.2018 - 02:13Rating: 1
Written by Auntie Sahar on 15.05.2018 at 13:12
Written by Vermoorden on 15.05.2018 at 06:28
Being a parody doesn't excuse anything here, because to be effective in being a parody piece, you have to first be good enough to listen to. If the music was at LEAST listenable in any form, I would probably be more interested in the project, maybe look up lyrics, etc... But its not even worth the effort since it sounds like trash.
Sure seemed to be worth the effort of you wasting your time with this comment, huh?
Voicing my opinion on a review isn't a waste of time to me, actually listening to the music is. I enjoy having discussions on music, period, regardless of my opinions on them. Can't really discuss a zero effort rebuttal like yours though.
Loading...
|
Vombatus Potorro
Posts: 2390 |
If Milo Yiannopoulos went metal haha....
Tbh, I find the album quite enjoyable. It definitely has its moments, the bass/drum duo works fairly well in this combination. The vocal clusterfuck is obviously a product of the concept, but I don't find it annoying or anything.
Was not surprised to see Mr. Toğrul behind this
Loading...
|
Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
Posts: 7561 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 14.05.2018 at 05:48
Written by [user id=159927] on 14.05.2018 at 04:00
I think you are going to get a lot of shit for this review
Anyway, they are pretty funny on Facebook. The vocals are actually very annoying to me at times, but other than that musically it's ok.
I think that here at least most people are intelligent enough to not take them immediately at face value and understand there's something much deeper going on.
Dude, I'm making a habit to read "Britney Therapy" lyrics before lunch and after dinner. I might give a shot before sleep as it is now becoming my most favorite "piece".
Loading...
|
Desha delicious dish
Posts: 817 |
Deshadelicious dishPosts: 817
I like the music but the subject matter is so boring and annoying that I porbably won't listen to it a lot.
----
You are the hammer, I am the nail
building a house in the fire on the hill
Loading...
|
boo-boo
Posts: 208 |
16.05.2018 - 11:52Rating: 3
I'm sorry, I'm just not able to listen to this. I don't want to blame the artist, but it sure as hell isn't my fault.
----
World won't end today - it's already tomorrow in Australia.
Loading...
|
Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
Posts: 5989 |
Written by Vermoorden on 16.05.2018 at 02:13
Voicing my opinion on a review isn't a waste of time to me, actually listening to the music is. I enjoy having discussions on music, period, regardless of my opinions on them. Can't really discuss a zero effort rebuttal like yours though.
If it appears as a "zero effort rebuttal," that's probably owed to the fact that I don't put much of an effort into long winded online debates with people I don't personally know or feel some sort of connection to (eg you). That I certainly consider as a waste of my time, especially in cases where opinions are at such opposite ends of the spectrum and neither person is likely to change the other's mind.
Have at the opinion voicing. As I'm not really the type of person who often feels a need to go out of my way to publicly voice dissenting opinions, however, I just derive a little amusement from those who do and the fact that making others aware of their dissatisfaction often appears more important than sparing themselves the frustration. That's all.
----
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
~ II. VII
Loading...
|
Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
Posts: 5989 |
Written by Vombatus on 16.05.2018 at 02:57
Tbh, I find the album quite enjoyable. It definitely has its moments, the bass/drum duo works fairly well in this combination. The vocal clusterfuck is obviously a product of the concept, but I don't find it annoying or anything.
It is quite the interesting combo, isn't it? Quite fresh and can't think of many other bands doing something like that. As much as I enjoy and support the band message as well though, almost makes me wish the lyrical topic was something different so that then people would be a little more likely to appreciate the originality behind the music since it wouldn't be as overshadowed by the theme.
----
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
~ II. VII
Loading...
|
musclassia StaffPosts: 7621 |
16.05.2018 - 15:18Rating: 4
Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.05.2018 at 13:12
Have at the opinion voicing. As I'm not really the type of person who often feels a need to go out of my way to publicly voice dissenting opinions, however, I just derive a little amusement from those who do and the fact that making others aware of their dissatisfaction often appears more important than sparing themselves the frustration. That's all.
This seems a slightly bizarre comment to me, in your view people should either agree with the reviewer or STFU? Not sure what's amusing about people who disagree with a reviewer on an album stating so and explaining why rather than comment threads just being hive minds. Particularly if a review is especially glowing/negative and the listener had an inverse opinion they wished to share with other potential listeners. I would've thought differences in opinion are a good thing as long as it's respectful (which on here and many places elsewhere often isn't the case), and I thought the guy above was generally reasonable with his comment (I totally agree with his opinion on this album FWIW). I seem to remember both of us commenting on that Marduk (?) vs Antifa thread here a few months back where the general vibe of the comment thread was not in line with our own views.
Loading...
|
Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
Posts: 5989 |
Written by musclassia on 16.05.2018 at 15:18
This seems a slightly bizarre comment to me, in your view people should either agree with the reviewer or STFU? Not sure what's amusing about people who disagree with a reviewer on an album stating so and explaining why rather than comment threads just being hive minds. Particularly if a review is especially glowing/negative and the listener had an inverse opinion they wished to share with other potential listeners. I would've thought differences in opinion are a good thing as long as it's respectful (which on here and many places elsewhere often isn't the case), and I thought the guy above was generally reasonable with his comment
It's absolutely not "agree or STFU," and that's quite the leap off of what I said. However, I understand if my wording may lead to that conclusion, so let me clarify. If you noticed, several other people commented earlier here voicing sentiments of distaste with the album, and I responded (I would like to believe) rather respectfully and with comments propelling the conversation into interesting topics of "what would make the album better to you?" and the like. I do not have a problem with inverse opinions, I have a problem with inverse opinions voiced abrasively and in a manner that is more likely to set people off than lead to constructive conversation. You take Mr. Vermooden's comments as reasonable if you like, but comments like "this is trash" and "retarded massive turd" from someone else earlier do nothing for me other than come across as pointless whining that is more for the sake of the individual letting off steam than it is for fueling a varied, civil discussion. In the face of such comments, an attitude thus arises in my head that if something bothers someone so much that they can't do anything but rant and use go to insult words in response, they're not really giving anything of benefit to the conversation. So yes, then it becomes amusing to see them still devoting so much time and energy to the matter when in my view (key words) what they're doing serves more to foster discord and anger than understanding and exchange of divergent viewpoints.
I'm really not trying to be General Asshole on this thread, and hope that kind of cleared some things up.
----
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
~ II. VII
Loading...
|
musclassia StaffPosts: 7621 |
16.05.2018 - 16:36Rating: 4
Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.05.2018 at 16:07
I'm really not trying to be General Asshole on this thread, and hope that kind of cleared some things up.
No worries, it's cool, I was just bored at work and I thought the comment I quoted seemed a bit peculiar coming from you, given that I wouldn't consider your opinions or musical tastes to be indicative of conformity. Maybe I'm more receptive to Vermoorden's comment because I can see how someone would consider this music to sound like 'trash', but I thought his comment was blunt, but not hostile or inflammatory. But I definitely get where you're coming from with what you're saying here.
Loading...
|
Mercurial
Posts: 1175 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.05.2018 at 16:07 So yes, then it becomes amusing to see them still devoting so much time and energy to the matter when in my view (key words) what they're doing serves more to foster discord and anger than understanding and exchange of divergent viewpoints.
I'm really not trying to be General Asshole on this thread, and hope that kind of cleared some things up.
Dunno dude, you kind of have to see the irony here: you're sort of attacking him for expressing his opinion and thought because he chose a strong and somehwta direct way of doing so, yet right here you've reviewed and are defending a band who choose to express themselves in a way that causes (or at least intends to cause) "discord and anger." He uses terms like "trash" to get his point across, whereas Peosphoros to use terms like "fag," "rape" and all manner of controversial terminology and imagery to get their views heard. I feel like Peosphoros are about freedom of expression so I don't think even they would have an issue with people having strong, dissenting opinions about their music. He did at least preface his opinion with some potential discussion material as well which has gone unaddressed.
Loading...
|
Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
Posts: 5989 |
Written by Mercurial on 16.05.2018 at 17:53
Dunno dude, you kind of have to see the irony here: you're sort of attacking him for expressing his opinion and thought because he chose a strong and somehwta direct way of doing so, yet right here you've reviewed and are defending a band who choose to express themselves in a way that causes (or at least intends to cause) "discord and anger." He uses terms like "trash" to get his point across, whereas Peosphoros to use terms like "fag," "rape" and all manner of controversial terminology and imagery to get their views heard. I feel like Peosphoros are about freedom of expression so I don't think even they would have an issue with people having strong, dissenting opinions about their music.
Meh, show me a person who isn't hypocritical or contradictory at some point or another in their lives and I'll show you a unicorn
I get what you mean, and point taken. Indeed, I am coming off as though brutal provocative language is OK as long as employed in a way that serves my interests. How I try to circumvent this more competitive, primate-dominant aspect of my personality, but alas, sometimes it comes to the forefront. I suppose my inner chimpanzee is just particularly rowdy today
----
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
~ II. VII
Loading...
|
Mercurial
Posts: 1175 |
Loading...
|
X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.05.2018 at 13:22 almost makes me wish the lyrical topic was something different so that then people would be a little more likely to appreciate the originality behind the music since it wouldn't be as overshadowed by the theme.
I disagree on this one. I really think it's just those highpitched dumb blonde gay vocals that stop most of people. Not the theme per se.
----
Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
Loading...
|
Vermoorden
Posts: 141 |
16.05.2018 - 22:25Rating: 1
Written by musclassia on 16.05.2018 at 15:18
Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.05.2018 at 13:12
Have at the opinion voicing. As I'm not really the type of person who often feels a need to go out of my way to publicly voice dissenting opinions, however, I just derive a little amusement from those who do and the fact that making others aware of their dissatisfaction often appears more important than sparing themselves the frustration. That's all.
This seems a slightly bizarre comment to me, in your view people should either agree with the reviewer or STFU? Not sure what's amusing about people who disagree with a reviewer on an album stating so and explaining why rather than comment threads just being hive minds. Particularly if a review is especially glowing/negative and the listener had an inverse opinion they wished to share with other potential listeners. I would've thought differences in opinion are a good thing as long as it's respectful (which on here and many places elsewhere often isn't the case), and I thought the guy above was generally reasonable with his comment (I totally agree with his opinion on this album FWIW). I seem to remember both of us commenting on that Marduk (?) vs Antifa thread here a few months back where the general vibe of the comment thread was not in line with our own views.
This is exactly the way I feel about this whole thread. This album is obviously intended to create debate, yet its somehow a waste of time to voice my opinion if its negative? Kind of goes against the entire point of this album doesn't it?
Loading...
|
Karlabos
Posts: 5736 |
16.05.2018 - 22:28Rating: 7
Golly heavens would you look at the time. It's time for some popcorn!!
----
"Aah! The cat turned into a cat!"
- Reimu Hakurei
Loading...
|
Marcus Doit Like Bernie
Posts: 642 |
MarcusDoit Like BerniePosts: 642
I'm really torn on this project. I think it's an interesting exercise and appreciate the underlying idea of free speech exposing modern selective censorship. At the same time, the message gets lost in part because the music is so inconsistent: I surprisingly enjoy most of the bass and drums and didn't really mind the "gay" vocals, but the rest of the vocals (besides the operatic vocals on one song and occasional rougher vocals) are so poor that it's pretty jarring. I think it would also have been more effective if the lyrics and their Youtube videos/facebook posts weren't so obvious. Like some other people have mentioned, it's easy to brush them aside when you already know that their lyrical content isn't serious and comes across more as an intentional joke than anything else. That said, metal fans and the people who have recently taken up crusades against metal are so easy to piss off that it doesn't really matter.
On a totally unrelated note, I'm a little concerned that I dig Reimu's heavily made-up, blood covered look.
Loading...
|
musclassia StaffPosts: 7621 |
17.05.2018 - 11:48Rating: 4
Written by X-Ray Rod on 16.05.2018 at 21:02
Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.05.2018 at 13:22 almost makes me wish the lyrical topic was something different so that then people would be a little more likely to appreciate the originality behind the music since it wouldn't be as overshadowed by the theme.
I disagree on this one. I really think it's just those highpitched dumb blonde gay vocals that stop most of people. Not the theme per se.
Yeah I don't even know what most of the songs are about because I can't understand most of the lyrics and haven't sat down to read them, I just don't think it sounds good, even if the wacky vocal approaches and lack of guitar (even though I feel like the bass sounds like BM guitar a lot of the time anyway here) are unique musical decisions. Even looking past the lote/hate vocals I don't think the instrumentation is particularly gripping anyway
Loading...
|
Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6100 |
Sounds shitty, tryhard and phony.
It's also not good at all.
Loading...
|
Vombatus Potorro
Posts: 2390 |
Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.05.2018 at 13:22
It is quite the interesting combo, isn't it? Quite fresh and can't think of many other bands doing something like that. As much as I enjoy and support the band message as well though, almost makes me wish the lyrical topic was something different so that then people would be a little more likely to appreciate the originality behind the music since it wouldn't be as overshadowed by the theme.
Yup, I really like that bass sound (guitar at times if you ask me) and the drums make it quite "bouncy" as you said, mainly coz of the variation and rhythms. It has this neat industrial/garage punkish (?) feel.
It is not complex nor requires much skill but those little changes make it so much more interesting and catchy, I do not get why more bands do that. Maybe that is why I like this, the fact it does not follow the fundaments of your average band, which is often too rigid and stuck-up as if you have to follow a fixed pattern ("on every verse, always play the same beat, don't change dynamics or dare adding an off note" or "not good to use four vocal styles in a song" kind of mentality).
Lyrics in metal are mostly anecdotal I'd say, especially if you don't understand them through the music, as it is often the case in extreme metal (requiring to check the booklet). The last song has none of the "fabulous" vocals, so I bet anyone into experimental BM could appreciate it if they didn't see/read the band/lyrics beforehand, which will create prejudice as it modifies the initial perception for sure. This wouldn't have half the hate if it had the typical BM shriek and hailed Satan & shit. It would have also made it invisible to a lot of people considering the endless pit of music availability that makes averageness instantly overlooked (unless you like the latest melodic death metal signed on Nuclear Blast and that kind of thing )
Loading...
|
Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
Posts: 5989 |
Probably the last thing out of me here, but something that really dawned on me earlier rereading comments here...
It's rather funny to me how people criticize this thing for being edgy, try hard, and cringey considering the sheer amount of edginess, try hard-ism, and cringey behavior within the realm of extreme metal in general, and black metal more than anything. I can't help but laugh and casually brush such comments aside considering other bands such as Marduk, Behemoth, Watain, Destroyer 666, Shining, and more that regularly go on and on with ridiculous, pseudo extreme antics for the sake of stirring the shit pot, reinforcing their confrontational imagery, and bringing themselves more publicity.... not too unlike what Peosphoros are doing here.
I have never seen responses to any of the artists I listed above on this site or elsewhere that are even remotely as negative as the feedback this album is receiving here. They've been doing idiotic, buffoonish shit for years for the sake of pissing people off and proving whatever points they're trying to make, and hardly anyone bats an eye because with them it's just all part of the show. This attitude says to me that the issue is less about bands being provocative, edgy, and try hard, and more about the particular music that they're using to complement such behavior. Joke's on me then I suppose for underestimating just how much of a knot a guitar-less band that employs whiny "gay vocals" can really get peoples' panties in. On a site where I often see far more complaining and "X sucks, Y is better" comments than comments of praise and admiration, however, I guess I'm in little position to be surprised.
I think that both through this albums' lyrics as well as their frequent social media postings, the members behind Peosphoros display that they're a lot more aware of this than some may think, the irony of the fact that a band as obscure as they are is actually likely to get more shit for their controversial, provocative approach than big name bands who are just as provocative are simply because their delivery is so unorthodox. They're aware of the fact that people are more likely to react negatively to them because of how bizarre and unpleasant their musical approach is, and they're taking advantage of the fact that listeners today often become so vocal about what they think is wrong with a piece of music to use that to attract greater attention to themselves.
The dismissal, the insulting, and the scathing criticism only serves to make these guys more powerful, solidify their vision, and turn more eyes towards them. So cheers to a 2 page thread that really just serves to help them with that agenda before it does anything else. As someone kind of implied above, if there's anyone that really "won" this thread, it's the band themselves.
Apoth out.
----
I am the Magician and the Exorcist. I am the axle of the wheel, and the cube in the circle. “Come unto me” is a foolish word: for it is I that go.
~ II. VII
Loading...
|
Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
Posts: 7561 |
Just like me, people always appreciate the fact that they publicly bash music which might be rudderless or far from the level of actual mockery that pisses listeners off.
Don't take me wrong but if you have to face a flak from listeners and you trying to nag away just because members involved in a band are your friends, then you might be taking straight to your heart.
Loading...
|