This is how tables drastically turn.

Leicester City 2016 PL winner falls sheepishly into a relegated zone. It fails to qualify.

That what happened in Bundesliga will be remembered in clown book stories to rest of eternity
Borussia has chance eliminate Bayern as champions first time in 10 years, they blooped it
Sad Schalke 04 and Herta Berlin relegated , some unknown teams will be promoted: 1. FC Heidenheim and Darmstadt 98 . I jope Hamburg will kick ass in play in against Stuttgart.

Serie A sad that Hellas will be relegated but
Milan sv Verona
Roma sv Spezzia
We all know Milan and Verona hates each other

Frosinone and Genoa are back. Bari(has 5th largets stadion in Italy Stadio San Nicola and hadf never been good Serie A team ), Parma, Calgari, Venezia, Reggina can go and win last spotr, but funny if Sudtirror will be promoted LOL, I like Italian play in system in lover levels. I hope Brescia will stay in play in out


On Sunday, AEK celebrated its 13th league title by securing an effortless victory over Volos, solidifying their triumph in the 2022-23 Super League championship.



PAOK - Olympiakos • Great Pyro Show Paok Ultras Gate 4
Thats the wildest I ever have seen in last few years, black smoke was intense

Europa League final in less than 2 hours. Sevilla have never lost a Europa League final. José Mourinho has never lost a final. This should be an interesting match.

This is amusing
Welsh men's football club Wrexham defeat US women's national team 12:0


To be fair, the women's goalie was their best player with some good saves

Written by F3ynman on 07.06.2023 at 14:13

This is amusing
Welsh men's football club Wrexham defeat US women's national team 12:0


To be fair, the women's goalie was their best player with some good saves

Not Wrexham, but rather retired Wrexham players...

Quote:

Written by BitterCOld on 08.06.2023 at 20:22


To be fair, the women's goalie was their best player with some good saves

Not Wrexham, but rather retired Wrexham players...

Including 46 Year old Wrexham legend Lee Trundle, who looked like a behemoth against the U.S. defenders, they just couldn't handle his physicality.

Written by BitterCOld on 08.06.2023 at 20:22

Not Wrexham, but rather retired Wrexham players...

Oh haha even better

Excited for tonight’s Champions League final. I expect Simone Inzaghi to win the tactical battle. Individual brilliance may help City win it, but I wouldn’t bet more than €10 on it. A CL final is a different beast of a game from any other. I don’t see eye-to-eye with the countless analysts and fans who think Manchester City are huge favorites.

Written by Metren on 10.06.2023 at 09:21

Excited for tonight’s Champions League final. I expect Simone Inzaghi to win the tactical battle. Individual brilliance may help City win it, but I wouldn’t bet more than €10 on it. A CL final is a different beast of a game from any other. I don’t see eye-to-eye with the countless analysts and fans who think Manchester City are huge favorites.

Interesting. I'd have said Man City are huge favorites, but I hope you're right and we'll get a real competitive fight!

Written by Metren on 10.06.2023 at 09:21

Excited for tonight’s Champions League final. I expect Simone Inzaghi to win the tactical battle. Individual brilliance may help City win it, but I wouldn’t bet more than €10 on it.

A brilliant save on 70th min nearly led me jump onto the different sofa. That is a save for Man City's lifting the cup.

I'd still feel City would have been 4-5 goals up against Milan seeing how cuppish those misses were.

Ederson's individual brilliance saved the game from going to extra time. A battle of equals. By no means was Manchester City tactically superior in this game.

I really have to start believing my own predictions and making bets to get some free money. If only my wife didn't hate gambling so very much

Written by Metren on 10.06.2023 at 23:14

I really have to start believing my own predictions and making bets to get some free money.

Didnt find it too surprising that it was a tight match in the end, even a 1-0 for City was kind of expectable I would say. So, I am curious which bet you are thinking of that would have given you some significant money tonight.

Written by Redel on 10.06.2023 at 23:53

Written by Metren on 10.06.2023 at 23:14

I really have to start believing my own predictions and making bets to get some free money.

Didnt find it too surprising that is was a tight match in the end, even a 1-0 for City was kind of expectable I would say. So, I am curious which bet you are thinking of that would have given you some significant money tonight.

I’m not being entirely serious, but I have been right about a ton of games and titles in recent years. I called City’s CL victory before the season had properly started. As I did with Argentine and the World Cup, though only once Argentina had qualified for the play-offs. I never doubted that Real Madrid would win the CL last year, not even when they were trailing Manchester City with minutes left. And I believe there’s an actual record of me predicting RM’s 3d CL victory with Zidane as head coach even somewhere in this thread a few pages back.

I don’t actually think anything of it, obviously. A gut feeling will sometimes lead to consecutive accurate “predictions” and it means nothing. In a world of billions of people making billions of predictions about everything, a lucky streak like mine is a statistical inevitability. I’ll likely never gamble or make bets regarding football, not even if my magical third eye keeps producing accurate predictions.

Written by Metren on 11.06.2023 at 00:10


I’m not being entirely serious, but I have been right about a ton of games and titles in recent years.

You have been talking about a few events where you've been right predicting their result ex ante. Have you ever been wrong about some events? I am asking because I believe that people in general -- myself included -- tend to better recall those events where they've been right predicting their outcome, compared with those events where they've been wrong.

Written by Redel on 11.06.2023 at 08:12

You have been talking about a few events where you've been right predicting their result ex ante. Have you ever been wrong about some events? I am asking because I believe that people in general -- myself included -- tend to better recall those events where they've been right predicting their outcome, compared with those events where they've been wrong.

I’ve certainly been wrong, too. And I agree, most people, maybe all, have that bias. For some, it's simpler to think they have precognitive powers than to understand the law of large numbers. That’s why I try to view things in a larger context. Just FYI, I am a skeptic and have no belief in the supernatural or supernatural powers, such as clairvoyance.

I guess we’d better bring this back on topic though I am actually glad Manchester City finally won the Champions League. I’m not a supporter of the club, but I like Guardiola and admire his tactics and relentless desire to perfect every aspect of the game.

Written by Metren on 11.06.2023 at 10:42

back on topic

I've this time been pretty much undecided as to who I would have wanted to win the final. City for me kind of deserved it when you consider how great they played in the quarter and the semi finals. Inter on the other hand would naturally have been a damn nice surprise, had they managed to completely neutralize City's offensive runs. While in most other years I was some how cheering for one of the final opponents, this year I would have been fine with either one winning.

So crazy finals we had West Ham after many many years won European cup against Fiorentina, same did Manchester City first CL trophy ever. Erling Haaland is new Messi , Zlatan or Ronaldo .
Seems he will drive tricks as those 3 did.

The German national team has been trash ever since 2014. The Polish goalie played a great game today

Written by F3ynman on 16.06.2023 at 22:45

The German national team has been trash ever since 2014. The Polish goalie played a great game today

Thats friendly it dont matter

Sweden 4-1 New Zeeland.

I enjoyed game between Dutches and Croats 4-2 in OT and how dutchies came back in 90+4 hehhehehe it was cool
I hope Croatia wins final

Nicaragua expelled from Gold Cup, replaced by Trinidad & Tobago

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/gold-cup/2023/6/13/23759279/nicaragua-expelled-from-gold-cup-replaced-by-trinidad-tobago-league-a-nations-league

After horrible game against Austria , Sweden has lost chance sto qualify to EC.



Now best and most important football events:
UEFA Champions League

Preliminary round
Semi-finals
he matches will take place at Kópavogsvöllur in Kópavogur, Iceland.
Atlètic Club d'Escaldes (Andora) vs Budućnost Podgorica
Tre Penne (San Marino) vs Breiðablik (Iceland)

Iceland's team has best chance

First qualifying round

Häcken (SWE) vs The New Saints (WAL) Good chance for Swedish team.
Ballkani (KOS) vs Ludogorets (BUL) Good away game for Balkanians
Shamrock Rovers (IRL) vs Winners of preliminary round
Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU) vs Struga (MKD) Lietuvans progress year by year their clubs I believe they manage
KÍ Klaksvík (FRO) vs Ferencváros (HUN) I hope for Miracles, not fan of Hungarians lately and specially their football boys

Olimpija Ljubljana (SVN) vs Valmiera (LVA) Bad bad bad draw for Valmiera , but miracle happens
HJK Helsinki (FIN) vs Larne (NIR) Finns will do it
Lincoln Red Imps (GIB) vs Qarabağ (AZE) * Money talks here
Raków Czestochowa (POL) vs Flora Tallinn (EST) * Might be 500 - 700 Polish boys in Estonia
Slovan Bratislava (SVK) vs Swift Hesper (LUX) Slovan is favorite
Farul Constanța (ROU) vs Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA) Sheriff last years do well and are fit for few more moves, close, might be good away fans
Hamrun Spartans (MLT) vs Maccabi Haifa (ISR) Maccabi do it
Urartu (ARM) vs Zrinjski (BIH) Last 3 pairs are weird to comment
Partizani (ALB) vs BATE Borisov (BLR) Last 3 pairs are weird to comment
Astana (KAZ) vs Dinamo Tbilisi (GEO) Last 3 pairs are weird to comment

Bate plays home games outside home country , atm TBA.

Second qualifying round
To early but 2 pairs are known
Dnipro-1 vs Panathinaikos , I say Ukraians do, Greeks always are sloppy at summer and Olympiakos is example
Geneva Servette vs Gent Hmmmm I say Geneva

UEFA Europa League[{size]
Teams will come from CL drop outs

[size=4]UEFA Europa Conference League
Second qualifying round
Cool see small teams, I believe here be some good games and fights, I like this state best.

Sutjeska (MNE) vs Cosmos (SMR)
Balzan (MLT) vs Domžale (SVN)
Vaduz (LIE) vs Neman Grodno (BLR)
Ararat-Armenia (ARM) vs Egnatia (ALB)
Torpedo Kutaisi (GEO) vs Sarajevo (BIH)


Alashkert (ARM) vs Arsenal Tivat (MNE)
Željezničar (BIH) vs Dinamo Minsk (BLR) Might be cool even Minsk play home games in neutral pitch
La Fiorita (SMR) vs Zimbru Chisinau (MDA)
Maribor (SVN) vs Birkirkara (MLT)
Tirana (ALB) vs Dinamo Batumi (GEO)


Dundalk (IRL) vs Magpies (GIB)
Víkingur (FRO) vs Inter Escaldes (AND)
Progrès Niederkorn (LUX) vs Gjilani (KOS)
Linfield (NIR) vs Vllaznia (ALB)
KA (ISL) vs Connah's Quay Nomads (WAL)


Shkëndija (MKD) vs Haverfordwest (WAL)
Haka (FIN) vs Crusaders (NIR)
HB (FRO) vs Derry City (IRL)
Riga (LVA) vs Víkingur Reykjavík (ISL) Latvians has good chance, might be new miracle, I believe in it
Žilina (SVK) vs Levadia Tallinn (EST) Hash for Estonians


Pyunik (ARM) vs Narva Trans (EST)
Panevezys (LTU) vs Milsami (MDA)
Tobol Kostanay (KAZ) vs Honka Espoo (FIN)
Dunajská Streda (SVK) vs Dila Gori (GEO)
Makedonija (MKD) vs RFS (LVA) Another bad draw, but its not super best team from N. Macedonia


Dukagjini (KOS) vs Europa (GIB)
Penybont (WAL) vs FC Santa Coloma (AND)
Hegelmann Litauen (LTU) vs Shkupi (MKD)
Diddeleng (LUX) vs St Patrick's (IRL)
B36 (FRO) vs Paide (EST)
Gżira United (MLT) vs Glentoran (NIR)


Second qualifying round
If we can trust wiki few games are known here, more comments when whole draw be done after first round

Lech Poznan vs Kauno Žalgiris
This is Ultras game. Might be 7000 poles in Lietuva, but NATO summit will happen(border control on Latvia and Polish border ), to ignore troubles border control can be longer and many poles might be denied to enter.

Twente - Hammarby
Harsh chose to swedes, might be proud game , but even dutch season has not start, Swedish are in a middle then, dutches will win

Viktoria Plzeň vs Ditra (Kosovo)

PAOK vs Bejtar Jerusalem
Fary game, mad people will travel , both teams can deliver good number away fanes and Izreli wins

Djurgårdens vs Luzern
Another bad draw for Swedes , I am pessimist

Cluj vs Adana Demirspor
Turks are not as they were years ago

APOEL vs Vojvodina
Nja some kind weird and most redilus defintion about brothers (orthodox brothers ) game

Bodö/Glimt vs Bohemians 1905
Norwegians will win at home, if they do well home game, they do win'

Brugge - Århus
Interesting game, maybe best from equal level teams

Celije vs Vitória de Guimarães
Slovens do it here, Potrugals still are on summer vocation and dreams

Ordabasy vs Legia Warshaw
Kazakstan is in Asia and team what can put good numbers and muscle boys on away games needs travel 5000 km

CSKA Sofia vs Steua
Might be good away numbers, from equal level teams

Torpedo-BelAZ Zhodino - AEK Larnaca
In theory both game scan be in Cyprus

Gabala Azerbajan vs Omonia Nikosie
I hope Cypriots do it

Osiek vs Zalaegerszeg
Hmmm

Austria Vien - Borac Banja Luka

Greece, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt to Withdraw Joint World Cup Bid

https://greekreporter.com/2023/06/21/greece-saudi-arabia-egypt-withdraw-world-cup/

Good. I hope 100 history will be respected and Estadio nacional in will host Opening game and Final where Uruguay beats Brazil by 20 - 0 (why not )

Kazuyoshi Miura: World's oldest footballer extends stay with Oliveirense

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66171076

wow he is insane I hope he manage to 60

Written by Bad English on 31.07.2023 at 08:23

Kazuyoshi Miura: World's oldest footballer extends stay with Oliveirense

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66171076

wow he is insane I hope he manage to 60

It makes you wonder how many years Ronaldo and messi have left in them. Playing in the leagues they're in, and going on their fitness levels atm I can see them being able to carry on into their mid 40s. Maldini played top level football well into his 40s so why not?

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 31.07.2023 at 08:31

Written by Bad English on 31.07.2023 at 08:23

Kazuyoshi Miura: World's oldest footballer extends stay with Oliveirense

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66171076

wow he is insane I hope he manage to 60

It makes you wonder how many years Ronaldo and messi have left in them. Playing in the leagues they're in, and going on their fitness levels atm I can see them being able to carry on into their mid 40s. Maldini played top level football well into his 40s so why not?

Yes but he play in Portugal , he can do at domestic league or tier 3 in Europe easily, but Messi and Ronaldo cant accept play in Ososunna or Celtic Glasgow

Written by Bad English on 31.07.2023 at 08:41

Yes but he play in Portugal , he can do at domestic league or tier 3 in Europe easily, but Messi and Ronaldo cant accept play in Ososunna or Celtic Glasgow

MLS is probably the standard equivalent of the Scottish League nowadays, I think Messi could maybe handle a few seasons there if he chose to play for Celtic, and he would be guaranteed a trophy or two, but I would rather he play for Rangers, he might just help knock Celtic off their pedestal. That ain't ever gonna happen though, he won't earn enough money.

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 31.07.2023 at 09:04

Written by Bad English on 31.07.2023 at 08:41

Yes but he play in Portugal , he can do at domestic league or tier 3 in Europe easily, but Messi and Ronaldo cant accept play in Ososunna or Celtic Glasgow

MLS is probably the standard equivalent of the Scottish League nowadays, I think Messi could maybe handle a few seasons there if he chose to play for Celtic, and he would be guaranteed a trophy or two, but I would rather he play for Rangers, he might just help knock Celtic off their pedestal. That ain't ever gonna happen though, he won't earn enough money.

I mean they wont accept less pay and weaker teams. Messi could survive in Championship 6 years, Ronaldo in English tier 3 10 years.

I like UEFA qualification, followed few games hhahahaha

UEFA Champions League third qualifying round
Raków Czestochowa (POL) vs Aris Limassol (CYP)
Interesting, passion and atmosphere, I hope Poles gets here

AEK Athens (GRE) vs GNK Dinamo (CRO)
No away fans AEK, are friends whit Livorno and OM and anti fa communist groups, so no away fans here to stop heavy riot involving Bad Blue Boys, Gate 13 vs Original 21, OM ultras and who knows where Olympiakos Gate 7 and maybe Delije would come to Atens to hunt croats. I think is wise ban away fans

Olimpija Ljubljana (SVN) vs Galatasaray (TUR)
Olimpija takes it

Copenhagen (DEN) vs Sparta Praha (CZE)
FCK does the job

KÍ Klaksvík (FRO) vs Molde (NOR)
Why, I want see Klaksvik takes Napoli, Real Madrid and Liverpool to Fareo ilsnads. I want see Molde there to

PSV Eindhoven (NED) vs Sturm Graz (AUT)
PSV takes whit better game

Braga (POR) vs Bačka Topola (SRB)
Unknown Serbian team

Slovan Bratislava (SVK) vs Maccabi Haifa (ISR)
Maccai do job till end,

Rangers (SCO) vs Servette (SUI)
I say Rangers manage whit lick, header and some good corners and attacking game win

Panathinaikos (GRE) vs Marseille (FRA)

No away fans AEK, are friends whit Livorno and OM and anti fa communist groups, so no away fans here to stop heavy riot involving Bad Blue Boys, Gate 13 vs Original 21, OM ultras and who knows where Olympiakos Gate 7 and maybe Delije would come to Atens to hunt croats. I think is wise ban away fans


2023–24 UEFA Europa League play-off round
Astana (KAZ) vs Ludogorets (BUL)
Another 3000 km plus or more travel, sorry Kazakstan is in Asia

Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU) vs Häcken (SWE)
I say Zalgiris win, even Galatasaray is shit at summer. Still they show good game, Lithuanian teams show good EUFA games last few eyars

Qarabağ (AZE) vs HJK Helsinki (FIN)
Azerbajan one year can be well, next can be bad, on paper they are better, but HJK can play, Fins are much better in last 10 years as before


Zrinjski (BIH) vs Breidablik (ISL)
I bet few bugs that Icelandic team do well and wins

Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA) vs BATE Borisov (BLR)
Derby I wonder if away fans can be, since Wagner is active and can be used as infultratiors?

Olympiacos (GRE) vs Genk (BEL)
Olympiacos dont play well last few years and this be same

Slavia Praha (CZE) vs Dnipro-1 (UKR)
Dnipro wins

UEFA Europa Conference League third qualifying round
Few super matches but no away fans be alowed


Struga (MKD) vs Swift Hesper (LUX)
Hhahaha what a match

Valmiera (LVA) vs Partizani (ALB)
Valmera maybe not best Latvian team, even they are champions, they can beat Albanians

Farul Constanța (ROU) vs Flora Tallinn (EST)
Cant comments, radu can

Hamrun Spartans (MLT) vs Ferencváros (HUN)
Nja

Ballkani (KOS) vs Lincoln Red Imps (GIB)
Chance for boat teams take home one big team in next stage

Tobol Kostanay (KAZ) vs Derry City (IRL)
Tobol will win, cant compare 2 country leuages.

Sabah (AZE) vs Partizan (SRB)
Nja can be fin

Omonoia (CYP) vs Midtjylland (DEN)
Not best days in summer for Omonia, but they will do

Bodø/Glimt (NOR) vs Pyunik (ARM)
Bodö will make miracles, Its well they can do it .

Sepsi Sfantu Gheorghe (ROU) vs Aktobe (KAZ)
who cares

Santa Coloma (AND) vs AZ Alkmaar (NED)
Not so easy for AZ but whit good luck and bad game they get what they need

Neftçi (AZE) vs Beşiktaş (TUR)
Brothe rgame

Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) vs Gzira United (MLT)
Plzen does it

Adana Demirspor (TUR) vs Osijek (CRO)
Not best Turkish team, nit best Croatian team. Turkey has better league, so it decide this time winner

Rosenborg (NOR) vs Heart of Midlothian (SCO)
Poor scots, vikings did not do damage on highlands and clansmen , but they offspring football team will

Dila Gori (GEO) vs APOEL (CYP)
APOEL do the job

Hapoel Beer-Sheva (ISR) vs Levski Sofia
Hapoel and Jewish teams show iron jaws , this will be same case, but can be some troubles whit fans

Celje (SVN) vs Neman Grodno (BLR)
Nja well well

Arouca (POR) vs Brann (NOR)
Some Portugal cup winner well Brann is good enough to take this duel

B36 Tórshavn (FRO) vs Rijeka (CRO)
Torshavn is place where all should be scared, if Rijeka don't be serous they wil loose

Twente (NED) vs Riga (LVA)
Sad days for Latvian team, but miracles happens

Fenerbahçe (TUR) vs Maribor (SVN)
Interesting quality and Turks are on the holydays, Slovens started season weeks ago.

Club Brugge (BEL) vs KA Akureyri (ISL)
Club Brugge makes it whit hard game

Lech Poznań (POL) vs Spartak Trnava (SVK)
Hmm good for away fans, Pols and Slovaks in many teams are brothers and enemies, cant follow so complicated case.

Aris Thessaloniki (GRE) vs Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
hard game, I feel sorry fod boat teams

Hibernian (SCO) vs Luzern (SUI)
Luzern

FCSB (ROU) vs Nordsjælland (DEN)
What Steaua is it?

Rapid Wien (AUT) vs Debrecen (HUN)
Not far to trabel

Hajduk Split (CRO) vs PAOK (GRE)
Interesting, will away fans be there?

Legia Warszawa (POL) vs Austria Wien (AUT)
Pols might do this time

AEK vs Dinamo was postponed because of heavy riots where Bad Blue Boys and Gated 13 crew attacked and wanted brake in in AEK stadion where Original 21 start defend own ground. One AEK greek was stabbed and died, few hospitalized. Like 100 croats arrested on scene , few in hotel, few on border way home.
They crossed Greece and Albania border.
Even in EU countries can start border control in accessions, Albania is not in EU , Greeks could close border and arrest all croats who wanted enter by cars. One Lithuanian team vs Polish team, when they play Lithuanians close border between and stop all buses, cars whit PL registration number and search them, Few football boys was late to game, few was busted for weapons, pyro. But after riots there ha sno been riots in Lithuania when they play polish teams. It can be done here, to prevail event.
But question is can UEFA band teams for riots what happened many hours before game ? Can they?
I want hear UEFA reaction since Greek and Croat clubs are not saints , Dinamo and Hajduk has many suspended penalties, they even can be kicked out from UEFA one year or one year behind closed doors. I can not wait to see UEFA comments.
One people died, yes but if person would chace and riot, sit at home and play PC or do facebooking it wont happen. People choose they way at life, it was case here. Now what will happen whit arrested croats, what will happen if they go to the jail in Greece? Who can prove who stabbed? Can ultras whiteness testimony be good, what happens whit boys who rat out?
What a waist of life, waist your life whit football fanatism.

Positive: I am watching to female WC in NZ, Ausie. I like attendance and interest there by locals. 2023 should be play in Uruguay. But I hope Ausie and NZ whill make 2034 or 2038 male WC together. They deserve it!!!! Last 2 WC was plaid in places who should never get it, and now 2030 Saudies wants it, well sorry Australia and NZ is million times better country as Saudi. Budweiser I hope they learned lesson about Qatar and stop finace FIFA. Just saying, who wants live there anyway?

Great news Bad English, sounds like the iconic San Siro will remain. It's one of the most famous and atmospheric stadiums in the world imo.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12389943/The-San-Siro-NOT-demolished-assessment-confirms-cultural-killing-Inter-AC-Milans-hopes-building-new-stadium-site.html