Plattner
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Please feel free to suggest more metal/hard rock examples of these “misplaced and hidden title tracks”.
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Redel ModeratorPosts: 2271 |
RedelModeratorPosts: 2271
If you are running out of ideas for new lists, why not just make combinations of your existing lists?
Suggestion:
Anthrax | Spreading The Disease
found on Anthrax | Among The Living
in the opening lyrics of the title track:
"Disease, disease
Spreading the disease"
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Plattner
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Written by Redel on 03.04.2024 at 20:53
If you are running out of ideas for new lists, why not just make combinations of your existing lists?
Suggestion:
Anthrax | Spreading The Disease
found on Anthrax | Among The Living
in the opening lyrics of the title track:
"Disease, disease
Spreading the disease"
Thank you for your suggestion and your support, Redel. I have added the album to the list.
Yes, I had found these examples during the search for the other two lists and they did not fit in there. I just wanted them off my desk, I guess. However, I hope that even though this new list is related to the previous two lists, people can find another interesting twist to the naming conventions here.
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Plattner
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The Rush example concerning Moving Pictures was suggested by Blackcrowe in the comments of the "Hidden Title Track" list.
Written by Blackcrowe on 11.07.2023 at 20:42
"Rush Moving Pictures from 1981
Only named the title track on Presto from 1989 the song Available Light
Trick of light
Moving picture🤘
Moments caught in flight
Make the shadows darker
Or the colors shine too bright
But this for other list "
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F3ynman Nocturnal Bro ContributorPosts: 3074 |
F3ynmanNocturnal BroContributorPosts: 3074
This is a very interesting concept. Your lists always make me think differently about the way certain bands decide to structure their lyrics, albums, and titles. I can't come up with any examples for this list except the Judas Priest one you already have and the Anthrax one Redel mentioned.
Here's an idea for another list maybe: bands that reference other bands in lyrics! For example, in Lucifer's Fall's "Homunculus" track from II - Cursed & Damned, Slayer's Show No Mercy is referenced:
"Black-hearted soul, evil-minded swine //
Shows no mercy, the Slayer shall arise"
I'm not sure how often this appears, but you might have fun exploring this idea
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Redel ModeratorPosts: 2271 |
RedelModeratorPosts: 2271
Now thinking about it, you may want to clarify one thing. Does the direction of causality matter for this list? The list title and part of the list description suggest that an album's title refers to lyrics from a song of a different album. But does it also count vice versa, if said lyrics refer to the album title, so album title has been chosen first?
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Plattner
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Written by F3ynman on 04.04.2024 at 14:16
This is a very interesting concept. Your lists always make me think differently about the way certain bands decide to structure their lyrics, albums, and titles. I can't come up with any examples for this list except the Judas Priest one you already have and the Anthrax one Redel mentioned.
Here's an idea for another list maybe: bands that reference other bands in lyrics! For example, in Lucifer's Fall's "Homunculus" track from II - Cursed & Damned, Slayer's Show No Mercy is referenced:
"Black-hearted soul, evil-minded swine //
Shows no mercy, the Slayer shall arise"
I'm not sure how often this appears, but you might have fun exploring this idea
Thank you very much for your comment, F3ynman2000. The mentioned concept (bands that reference other bands in lyrics) sounds very interesting.
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Plattner
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Written by Redel on 04.04.2024 at 14:37
Now thinking about it, you may want to clarify one thing. Does the direction of causality matter for this list? The list title and part of the list description suggest that an album's title refers to lyrics from a song of a different album. But does it also count vice versa, if said lyrics refer to the album title, so album title has been chosen first?
Thank you very much for your comment, Redel. This is a very good question. I had left this out to make the introduction section shorter, but maybe I should add a few words there.
I do not know all the stories behind the creation of the listed links between the album titles and the corresponding lyrics.
However, I have seen different scenarios:
In most cases, the song came first and the title of the following/younger album was chosen later.
Moreover, there are twin albums, where song lyrics and album titles are swapped.
Finally, the third possibility (the one you were asking about) is the case when the album was released earlier than the song with the corresponding lyrics. Indeed, it could be that the song writer directly refers to the title of this older album. However, another scenario is that the song was created around the same time as this album that the lyrics are linked to, but it just was not finished when the album should be released and therefore was included on a later album.
Maybe I will add the corresponding stories to the list when I know them all.
As there seem not to be too many examples, which in addition have different stories, I think that the "direction" / "time sequence" should not matter for this list.
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Redel ModeratorPosts: 2271 |
RedelModeratorPosts: 2271
Written by Plattner on 04.04.2024 at 21:20
As there seem not to be too many examples, which in addition have different stories, I think that the "direction" / "time sequence" should not matter for this list.
Good choice. And no need really to elaborate on that anywhere in the description I guess. I would probably not even have thought about this point if two expressions were absent from the list title ("come from") and the description ("stem from"). Maybe you could just swap these for e.g. "relate to" or "are found in". I guess then no one will stumble upon this.
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Plattner
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Written by Redel on 04.04.2024 at 21:37
Written by Plattner on 04.04.2024 at 21:20
As there seem not to be too many examples, which in addition have different stories, I think that the "direction" / "time sequence" should not matter for this list.
Good choice. And no need really to elaborate on that anywhere in the description I guess. I would probably not even have thought about this point if two expressions were absent from the list title ("come from") and the description ("stem from"). Maybe you could just swap these for e.g. "relate to" or "are found in". I guess then no one will stumble upon this.
Thank you very much for your useful suggestion, Redel. I have included this small but helpful change. This should work better now.
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M C Vice ex-polydactyl
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Bathory. The song Hammerheart is from the Twilight Of The Gods album, but the previous album was called Hammerheart.
The vast gates to hall up high
Shall stand open wide and welcome you with all its within
And Oden shall heil us bearers of a pounding hammerheart
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"I'm here to nunchuck and not wear helmets. And I'm all out of helmets."
"I'll fight you on one condition. That you lower your nipples."
" 'Tis a lie! Thy backside is whole and ungobbled, thou ungrateful whelp!"
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Plattner
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Written by M C Vice on 10.04.2024 at 22:50
Bathory. The song Hammerheart is from the Twilight Of The Gods album, but the previous album was called Hammerheart.
The vast gates to hall up high
Shall stand open wide and welcome you with all its within
And Oden shall heil us bearers of a pounding hammerheart
Thank you very much for your interesting suggestion, M C Vice.
Because the song Hammerheart (from the album Twilight Of The Gods) has the same title as the album Hammerheart, I had already included it in the “Misplaced Title Track” (title relates to a song found on another album) list.
This list here has songs with lyrics that are linked to the title of another album of the same artist (the song title is different in this case - only the lyrics make the connection, which therefore is even more "hidden" here).
Again, this Bathory example is an interesting find. In fact, it was one of the reasons that I had started the “Misplaced Title Track” list.
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Zap
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Never mind, that album has a title track. Maybe it fits another one of your lists?
Off the top of my head I can think of the following example:
Nevermore - Nevermore
Nevermore - The Politics of Ecstasy
Song:
Garden Of Grey
Quote:
I want to feel your flesh enrapture me
And live the politics of ecstasy
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Plattner
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Written by Zap on 11.04.2024 at 09:21
Never mind, that album has a title track. Maybe it fits another one of your lists?
Off the top of my head I can think of the following example:
Nevermore - Nevermore
Nevermore - The Politics of Ecstasy
Song:
Garden Of Grey
Quote:
I want to feel your flesh enrapture me
And live the politics of ecstasy
Thank you very much for this interesting example, Zap. I will keep it in mind.
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DarkWingedSoul
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Check the Landmarq discography, where often track from the album is title of the next alnum.
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Plattner
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Written by DarkWingedSoul on 20.04.2024 at 08:53
Check the Landmarq discography, where often track from the album is title of the next alnum.
Thank you very much, DarkWingedSoul. I had included the Landmarq examples (where the album title fits to the song title from another album) in the “Misplaced Title Track” list.
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Plattner
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Written by Zap on 11.04.2024 at 09:21
Never mind, that album has a title track. Maybe it fits another one of your lists?
Off the top of my head I can think of the following example:
Nevermore - Nevermore
Nevermore - The Politics of Ecstasy
Song:
Garden Of Grey
Quote:
I want to feel your flesh enrapture me
And live the politics of ecstasy
Thank you again, Zap. I have included your Nevermore suggestion in the new list:
“Song Title Drop – Lyrics That Refer To The Title Of Another Song”
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