For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Being tr00 are we?

Nu metal is still real metal, as far as I know and I'm sure there'll be thousands, if not millions of metalheads agreeing in my favour, since it spawned from previously existing subgenres of metal, even if you don't like it.

BTW, I love that power metal ballad, it's a classic j/k, stereotyping isn't nice and it's also ignorant, you should really try to look more into these things, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised

Written by k4Mil on 16.06.2007 at 13:44

I started listening metal when I was 12. Metallica, Iron Maiden, Korn were my first favourite bands.

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Hmm, hows that Korn song go again? .. Ah, thats right, "Hypocrite!!"

Anyway explain how nu-metal comes up in you post then relating to this thread? Your post is just a cheap shot at it, whilst actually backing up why its an important sub-genre in the metal scene.

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Written by Xtreme Jax on 23.06.2007 at 19:29

Written by k4Mil on 16.06.2007 at 13:44

I started listening metal when I was 12. Metallica, Iron Maiden, Korn were my first favourite bands.

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Hmm, hows that Korn song go again? .. Ah, thats right, "Hypocrite!!"

Anyway explain how nu-metal comes up in you post then relating to this thread? Your post is just a cheap shot at it, whilst actually backing up why its an important sub-genre in the metal scene.

I think that nu metal is good only when you're starting listening metal, after some time you look on this music from other perspective. Nu metal is so comercial, without ideology (Of course you may disagree with me, that is only my point of view). When I was "little boy" I had different point of view on a music, I liked nu metal, but now I don't. Now getting back into nu metal would be very difficult to me.

Many ppl started metal coz of NU metal .. I didn't .. Anyways, I felt always like Doom would be hard .. thick .. but by "learning" it, the mission can be easier, a friend of mine started to let me lsn a song after song in Doom metal reading deeeep emotional lyrics and lsning sad tones .. I felt like I am in front of really great style ..


Black metal is hard on me .. away from Melodic Black which is the only acceptable Black gendre to me ..

I consider myself fairly open when it comes to metal. I don't delve into any genre too heavily, but take a 'pick and mix' approach, focussing on old-school trash and heavy metal more than any other genres. I once thought I would never listen to DM/BM...I now quite enjoy the more melodic stuff, and am slowly discovering some slightly rougher BM which I like (Marduk, Wolves in the Thrown Room etc.). I quite enjoy a spot of Necrophobic, Demilich, Eucharist and the like for slightly crunchier Melodic Death metal, but I'm also getting into the heavier stuff (Morbid Angel I like). So my views have changed.

I still dislike nu metal and metalcore (plus modern melodic death metal), as I find these genres way too bland, generic and overproduced, as well as being very simple. Lots of power metal falls into this category.

One genre is different from these, though. Drone. Seriously - what? I quite like doom, though I don't know that much. I always complain about bands thinking playing at 240bpm makes them good, but what the hell are bands like Sunn o))) and Khylst trying to achieve? The songs just stretch ouuuuuuuttttt for soooo longggg. No, wait, that's slightly more up-tempo doom; the riffs stretch out for so long. It's something I just can't get into, because it slowly drains your strength away and leaves you thinking 'What the fuck?'. I guess it's a Marmite thing-like it or hate it.

Written by [user id=12867] on 23.06.2007 at 19:27

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Being tr00 are we?

Nu metal is still real metal, as far as I know and I'm sure there'll be thousands, if not millions of metalheads agreeing in my favour, since it spawned from previously existing subgenres of metal, even if you don't like it.

BTW, I love that power metal ballad, it's a classic j/k, stereotyping isn't nice and it's also ignorant, you should really try to look more into these things, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised

I know, nu metal is a metal genre, but I don't like it. Almost all my friends - metalheads have begun listening to metal from nu metal, and they don't like it now (like me). That's why I'm thinking that is only a beginning of getting into metal. But don't get me wrong, I respeckt ppl who like it. I know, every one have a different taste of music.
Aboult Power Metal, I've never seriously tried to get into Powe Metal. You may be right, I'll try

Written by k4Mil on 24.06.2007 at 01:30

Written by [user id=12867] on 23.06.2007 at 19:27

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Being tr00 are we?

Nu metal is still real metal, as far as I know and I'm sure there'll be thousands, if not millions of metalheads agreeing in my favour, since it spawned from previously existing subgenres of metal, even if you don't like it.

BTW, I love that power metal ballad, it's a classic j/k, stereotyping isn't nice and it's also ignorant, you should really try to look more into these things, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised

I know, nu metal is a metal genre, but I don't like it. Almost all my friends - metalheads have begun listening to metal from nu metal, and they don't like it now (like me). That's why I'm thinking that is only a beginning of getting into metal. But don't get me wrong, I respeckt ppl who like it. I know, every one have a different taste of music.
Aboult Power Metal, I've never seriously tried to get into Powe Metal. You may be right, I'll try

As for recommendations, I suggest you check out Manticora, Nevermore, Morgana Lefay/Lefay - That should change your perspective, after listening to those bands (Keep in mind they're all hybrids)

Written by [user id=12867] on 24.06.2007 at 05:30

Written by k4Mil on 24.06.2007 at 01:30

Written by [user id=12867] on 23.06.2007 at 19:27

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Being tr00 are we?

Nu metal is still real metal, as far as I know and I'm sure there'll be thousands, if not millions of metalheads agreeing in my favour, since it spawned from previously existing subgenres of metal, even if you don't like it.

BTW, I love that power metal ballad, it's a classic j/k, stereotyping isn't nice and it's also ignorant, you should really try to look more into these things, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised

I know, nu metal is a metal genre, but I don't like it. Almost all my friends - metalheads have begun listening to metal from nu metal, and they don't like it now (like me). That's why I'm thinking that is only a beginning of getting into metal. But don't get me wrong, I respeckt ppl who like it. I know, every one have a different taste of music.
Aboult Power Metal, I've never seriously tried to get into Powe Metal. You may be right, I'll try

As for recommendations, I suggest you check out Manticora, Nevermore, Morgana Lefay/Lefay - That should change your perspective, after listening to those bands (Keep in mind they're all hybrids)

Try Iced Earth, without Ripper. They kicked ass.

For the topic: i've tried several times to get into 'true' death metal. I listened Nile and Morbid Angel mostly, but perhaps not tried hard enough. I'll keep trying.... I like bands like Amon Amarth or early PLost, though, but thats a different category.

doom metal. it's so slow and pathetic... i don't understand it at all. and thank god, i don't have to! ....

For me, It is very dificult to get into black metal. I don't like the speed that the genre typically works with and (most of) the vocal styles are just... mindless. Drone is on the same list, as well as some epic powermetal, but most Doom and power bands work for me. All depends on what kind of mood youre in, I suppose.
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firstly Nu-Metal is NOT metal (fvcking-DUH!) ........though if it were (which it isn't) i would nominate that as hardest to get into, i'm all about giving music artists chances and so on but sry, Nu-Metal just isn't good music lol .......i mean it is better than some other music but it's still awful. for me the most difficult metal sub-genre to get into is without a doubt Doom Metal........ metal music just isn't meant to be that slow-paced, while they attempt to evoke a certain atmosphere, to me it just seems boring-as-hell and uninspired, it's so depressing too, why surround yourself with sorrow when you can make the most out ov life? the way most true metallians do.

and to those who say Power Metal, i know you all think it is 'gay' or lacks testosterone, but come on.......do you really intend on listening to brutal stuff ALL THE TIME while into just music that is unrelenting and extreme, yes it can be fun sometimes but other times, with all that optimism taken away and that old-school vibe lacking, doesn't it make you overly-tense? Oh and not all Power Metal bands sound feminine, take new BLIND GUARDIAN for instance..........and what's wrong with fantasy related themes? it's just like great movies such as 300, Lord Of The Rings and Troy ......but putting them into music rather than on the big screen, It's fvcking Epic!!!!!! And if you hate it cuz it's 'not real', well neither is The Devil (Black Metal) or Gorey/Horror/Homicidal Fantasies (Outrageously Brutal Death Metal).

yeahh.

For me, the hardest genres to get into are cybergrind/pornogrind/scatgrind and all this stupid immature crap. It's a trend, the music is only shock value... and it's really really unlistenable. Don't get me wrong, I love grindcore, i just don't like crap.

Written by [user id=24470] on 25.06.2007 at 17:58

Written by [user id=12867] on 24.06.2007 at 05:30

Written by k4Mil on 24.06.2007 at 01:30

Written by [user id=12867] on 23.06.2007 at 19:27

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Being tr00 are we?

Nu metal is still real metal, as far as I know and I'm sure there'll be thousands, if not millions of metalheads agreeing in my favour, since it spawned from previously existing subgenres of metal, even if you don't like it.

BTW, I love that power metal ballad, it's a classic j/k, stereotyping isn't nice and it's also ignorant, you should really try to look more into these things, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised

I know, nu metal is a metal genre, but I don't like it. Almost all my friends - metalheads have begun listening to metal from nu metal, and they don't like it now (like me). That's why I'm thinking that is only a beginning of getting into metal. But don't get me wrong, I respeckt ppl who like it. I know, every one have a different taste of music.
Aboult Power Metal, I've never seriously tried to get into Powe Metal. You may be right, I'll try

As for recommendations, I suggest you check out Manticora, Nevermore, Morgana Lefay/Lefay - That should change your perspective, after listening to those bands (Keep in mind they're all hybrids)

Try Iced Earth, without Ripper. They kicked ass.

For the topic: i've tried several times to get into 'true' death metal. I listened Nile and Morbid Angel mostly, but perhaps not tried hard enough. I'll keep trying.... I like bands like Amon Amarth or early PLost, though, but thats a different category.

Although I do like Iced Earth, they have always been a combination of Heavy and Thrash, IMO, so not exactly the best recommendation there

Written by [user id=12867] on 26.06.2007 at 07:33

Written by [user id=24470] on 25.06.2007 at 17:58

Written by [user id=12867] on 24.06.2007 at 05:30

Written by k4Mil on 24.06.2007 at 01:30

Written by [user id=12867] on 23.06.2007 at 19:27

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Being tr00 are we?

Nu metal is still real metal, as far as I know and I'm sure there'll be thousands, if not millions of metalheads agreeing in my favour, since it spawned from previously existing subgenres of metal, even if you don't like it.

BTW, I love that power metal ballad, it's a classic j/k, stereotyping isn't nice and it's also ignorant, you should really try to look more into these things, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised

I know, nu metal is a metal genre, but I don't like it. Almost all my friends - metalheads have begun listening to metal from nu metal, and they don't like it now (like me). That's why I'm thinking that is only a beginning of getting into metal. But don't get me wrong, I respeckt ppl who like it. I know, every one have a different taste of music.
Aboult Power Metal, I've never seriously tried to get into Powe Metal. You may be right, I'll try

As for recommendations, I suggest you check out Manticora, Nevermore, Morgana Lefay/Lefay - That should change your perspective, after listening to those bands (Keep in mind they're all hybrids)

Try Iced Earth, without Ripper. They kicked ass.

For the topic: i've tried several times to get into 'true' death metal. I listened Nile and Morbid Angel mostly, but perhaps not tried hard enough. I'll keep trying.... I like bands like Amon Amarth or early PLost, though, but thats a different category.

Although I do like Iced Earth, they have always been a combination of Heavy and Thrash, IMO, so not exactly the best recommendation there

I alaways think about 'Earth as a power band, dunno why It's hard to separate heavy and power bands, though.

Written by ~Starchild~ on 26.06.2007 at 23:37

for grindcore i also agree with other statements, it's extremely brutal. i don't know if i ever get into it, till now i don't like it at all.

Me neither, I only like !T.O.O.H.! or whatever the name is, but it isn't pure grind, it has some prog elements.

Written by [user id=2142] on 23.06.2007 at 20:41

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Jokeing wright pop are so cheesy and cheep that moust ppl dont need no brains to get into it

the most difficult I would say is brutal death metal or early black metal, im more of a technical listener I still have a hard time listening to brutal death metal, sometimes its hard to hear the instruments play together the drums and voice are too strong... you are right about how stupid sometimes the power metal song titles are, and the lyrics sometimes are embarrassing to hear...but hey give it a try, not my favorite metal gender but it isn't bad once in a while.

The most difficult for me would be black metal, and i still don't really listen to it much

I think it's brutal death metal and avangard metal, they're so hard to get into, and the avangard metal-mix of metal genres....it's weird to listen...

Written by k4Mil on 24.06.2007 at 01:30

Written by [user id=12867] on 23.06.2007 at 19:27

Written by k4Mil on 23.06.2007 at 15:34

For me the most difficult genre to get in is Power Metal. I've never liked this music. Power metal vocals are awful, I can't listening them. I also don't like epic lyrics, and titles like "Killed By The Hammer Of Steel Of The Dragon Of Metal Of The Mighty Warrior's Sword". I've never got into Power Metal, and I never will.
I also don't like nu metal, I think this music is for little girls and boys, who don't know what real metal is.

Being tr00 are we?

Nu metal is still real metal, as far as I know and I'm sure there'll be thousands, if not millions of metalheads agreeing in my favour, since it spawned from previously existing subgenres of metal, even if you don't like it.

BTW, I love that power metal ballad, it's a classic j/k, stereotyping isn't nice and it's also ignorant, you should really try to look more into these things, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised

I know, nu metal is a metal genre, but I don't like it. Almost all my friends - metalheads have begun listening to metal from nu metal, and they don't like it now (like me). That's why I'm thinking that is only a beginning of getting into metal. But don't get me wrong, I respeckt ppl who like it. I know, every one have a different taste of music.
Aboult Power Metal, I've never seriously tried to get into Powe Metal. You may be right, I'll try

I feel that even though there has been some misunderstanding through this conversation there have also been a few good points made, such as how people start listening to one thing and eventually develop and start listening to others sometimes leaving behind previous material. I for one started with whatever was on the radio(stuff like Hoobastank, Nickelback, Stonesour, Korn and Sum41) to punk-then heavy/thrash metal, eventually to death, then black, and now some speed while still holding on to most of the stuff I've listened to except the first two. And there also those who just listen to whatever they want never sticking to any specific genre and just being an all around music participant always open to other genres but may take time to get into one genre/style later on in their life rather then at the current time.

And as far as the hardest genre to get into, to me there is no hardest/easiest genre to get into because everyone is different and has a different perspective on things & you can't measure the difficulty of getting into a genre the same way you can't measure how thirsty you are or how much you love someone. There is only developent over time and peoples interest /choices that decide which direction someone will take for themselves.

For me: Grind. Nothing annoys the hell out of me more than Grind.

For me Power Metal would be the hardest genre to get into, followed closely by BM. Pretty much stuff with keyboards and a lot of melodies make me cringe.

I think that for most people outside of metal, the hardest genres would be the extreme ones: black, death and grind. The reasons being, well... everything! The guitar in black sounds like a chainsaw, in death it reminds one of an engine starting (I'm not saying that's my opinion, but that's what I've seen people say), the drums are violent (blast beats), and last, but not least, the vocals are harsh and, were, in fact, the biggest target of people's complains (at least the people I know). Even in doom, the vocals bothered my old high school mates. I've even met a girl who said metal's heaviness gives her a bad feeling in the stomach. :
As for me, I myself can't listen to pure black or pure death for very long. I think I run out of energy too fast and these are very energetic genres, if you know what I mean. However, when mixed with sludge or doom, like in Acid Bath, Soilent Green, Forgotten Tomb, dISEMBOWELMENT and othes, I have no trouble listening at all, because the variation keeps me from getting bored.

I agree that Death and Black metal are hard to get into. I love vocals and great ability

An example is I really dig Children of Bodem music and Alex guitar playing. He is wicked. But as soon as He opens his mouth I get disintrested.
I still listen though.

Written by Anthem on 09.07.2007 at 14:54

I agree that Death and Black metal are hard to get into. I love vocals and great ability

An example is I really dig Children of Bodem music and Alex guitar playing. He is wicked. But as soon as He opens his mouth I get disintrested.
I still listen though.

What does Children of Bodom have to do with Death and Black metal?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.07.2007 at 16:01

Written by Anthem on 09.07.2007 at 14:54

I agree that Death and Black metal are hard to get into. I love vocals and great ability

An example is I really dig Children of Bodem music and Alex guitar playing. He is wicked. But as soon as He opens his mouth I get disintrested.
I still listen though.

What does Children of Bodom have to do with Death and Black metal?

He thinks CoB are Finish Melo Death metal hahah

Damn if ewery body who say it about CoF pay 10euros I gonna be rich man

Black, Death, and Grind Metal. I think pretty much in the vocal area and being 'intense,' I guess is the right word.

To me i think Drone Metal is the hardest genre to get into. i find it very boring and i just cant get into to it because of that reason.