Virgin Black

Ghotic metal with lyrics with a strong cristian influence... very good stuff =p

Written by X-Ray Rod on 19.01.2008 at 23:03

Virgin Black

Ghotic metal with lyrics with a strong cristian influence... very good stuff =p

I know band and i like tham, there was one more other Australian doom band whit hard in compicated english wrtten christianic lyrics, werry complicated for those who englsih sint firts tomg and even for those
Band name are Paramaecium

weirdly enough Virgin Black strongly dislike to be referd as a christian band and avoid interviews and such from christian metal sites.

I read that they are not Christian and they want to teach the people trough the music the difference between the Church and God.... Sooooooo what you say make sence

But the Christian influence in the lyrics are obvious...
It's something that I really like... When I read the first time that the lyrics had some thing with the religion and stuff like that... I though that It was only crappy music...
But when I listened to them... wooow, I saw the mening of every single word that London said, And it was beautiful.

Written by VPeter on 20.01.2008 at 04:49

weirdly enough Virgin Black strongly dislike to be referd as a christian band and avoid interviews and such from christian metal sites.

There are many bands like that out there. I know one of the biggest in that situation is Jars of Clay.

i imagine simply to avoid being pigeonholed.

granted, i'm not a Christian band - but if i released, hypothetically, a post-black metal album from the one man project "BitterCOld" with a pro-Christian message, I would want to eschew the Christian metal label as well.

i'd rather be associated with the general genre that my output most relates to musically as opposed to ideologically.

it would get the message across to a broader audience (and not 'preach to the choir' to turn an appropriate phrase) - and ideally would be received by the audience most likely to enjoy and appreciate it based solely on it's musical merits and approach.

does that make sense?

Written by BitterCOld on 12.02.2008 at 02:52

i imagine simply to avoid being pigeonholed.

granted, i'm not a Christian band - but if i released, hypothetically, a post-black metal album from the one man project "BitterCOld" with a pro-Christian message, I would want to eschew the Christian metal label as well.

i'd rather be associated with the general genre that my output most relates to musically as opposed to ideologically.

it would get the message across to a broader audience (and not 'preach to the choir' to turn an appropriate phrase) - and ideally would be received by the audience most likely to enjoy and appreciate it based solely on it's musical merits and approach.

does that make sense?

Oh, it totally does. Look at a band like Dream Theater or U2. Both of them have very strong Christian themes running through much of their music, but neither one marketing to the "Christian" crowed. I would actually bet money to say that there are more non-Christians who listen to those bands than Christians.

For some bands, it is easy for them to get a record deal if they label themselves as "Christians", and many times those bands reflect nothing Christian in their lyrics. Other times artists can become incredably sucessfull and use Christians themes in their music and most people are oblivious to it, like Sufjan Stevens.

For me, and band, we want to be recognized for both our music style and our idiology. I really don't want to me making music for just Christians.

Written by BitterCOld on 12.02.2008 at 02:52


Oh, it totally does. Look at a band like Dream Theater or U2. Both of them have very strong Christian themes running through much of their music, but neither one marketing to the "Christian" crowed. I would actually bet money to say that there are more non-Christians who listen to those bands than Christians.

Dream Theater might have christian members, but it is absolutely not a christian band, the have something funny with buddhism I believe.
But when you see a band as mortification, which has always been preaching and so on stages, in the years after scrolls there where almost more non-chrsitians listening to them as christians. It can be that way also.

Admonish - Swe BM band christian BM band firts in all Sweden start in 1994 but reacordet only in 2004

Try this band out
its serbijan BM band whit soem other elements
band name are Vizant http://www.myspace.com/vizantmetal

In band page are written this ''SLAVA BOGU NA VISINI, NA ZEMLJI MIR, MEDJU LJUDIMA DOBRA VOLJA... ''

Cant translate all properly but its something like Thank's God .... In earth are peace , something about best wishes

One of first Ortodox bands I know

On the List: Mortification ; Off the list: Sacrificium

Soulfly is a really Religious band, i like the music. and i respect Max Cavalera

hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

the only band i listen to that are christians are probably still remains but they are more metalcore

Written by Necrogeddon on 26.03.2008 at 02:59

hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

the only band i listen to that are christians are probably still remains but they are more metalcore

Yes christain metal bands are christains and read all posts you be suprised taht not metalcore bands are christains too

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hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

the only band i listen to that are christians are probably still remains but they are more metalcore

Yes christain metal bands are christains and read all posts you be suprised taht not metalcore bands are christains too

And I think we're talking about bands that have a christian message, I can probably find a couple dozen bands with christian members, but dont exactly have a message involving there religious beliefs.

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hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

the only band i listen to that are christians are probably still remains but they are more metalcore

Yes christain metal bands are christains and read all posts you be suprised taht not metalcore bands are christains too

And I think we're talking about bands that have a christian message, I can probably find a couple dozen bands with christian members, but dont exactly have a message involving there religious beliefs.

And also you're write about it too

Written by Necrogeddon on 26.03.2008 at 02:59

hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

Would you mind explaining why you're not keen on that idea of using the name "Christian Metal"?

As K7 stated, we have already discussed this issue. The title "Christian Metal" is used because it is easier to say than "Metal Bands With a Christian Messeage in Their Music".

Written by Dane Train on 26.03.2008 at 13:08

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hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

Would you mind explaining why you're not keen on that idea of using the name "Christian Metal"?

As K7 stated, we have already discussed this issue. The title "Christian Metal" is used because it is easier to say than "Metal Bands With a Christian Messeage in Their Music".

well, i have no problem with christian bands, im just not keen on religion and stuff like that, thats what i meant. if there was for example i dunno a muslim band that sang about their god and stuff again i wouldnt be keen on that. thats all. if they are christians that happen to be in a metal band rather than a band who devote their music to god then it doesnt seem as much like they are forcing god yet again in my face. i dunno if that makes sense, if it dosnt just ignore me....i know what i mean

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hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

Would you mind explaining why you're not keen on that idea of using the name "Christian Metal"?

As K7 stated, we have already discussed this issue. The title "Christian Metal" is used because it is easier to say than "Metal Bands With a Christian Messeage in Their Music".

well, i have no problem with christian bands, im just not keen on religion and stuff like that, thats what i meant. if there was for example i dunno a muslim band that sang about their god and stuff again i wouldnt be keen on that. thats all. if they are christians that happen to be in a metal band rather than a band who devote their music to god then it doesnt seem as much like they are forcing god yet again in my face. i dunno if that makes sense, if it dosnt just ignore me....i know what i mean

Good point there is no muslim bands but some muslim,. chrsiatianity and judaism thinsk are in Orphanad land lyrics... but I dont know so good arab scene, but its poor

Written by Necrogeddon on 26.03.2008 at 15:44

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Written by Necrogeddon on 26.03.2008 at 02:59

hmmm im not keen on christian metal...i dont like the fact they are labelling themselves as a christian metal band rather than the fact they are a metal band that happens to be christian

Would you mind explaining why you're not keen on that idea of using the name "Christian Metal"?

As K7 stated, we have already discussed this issue. The title "Christian Metal" is used because it is easier to say than "Metal Bands With a Christian Messeage in Their Music".

well, i have no problem with christian bands, im just not keen on religion and stuff like that, thats what i meant. if there was for example i dunno a muslim band that sang about their god and stuff again i wouldnt be keen on that. thats all. if they are christians that happen to be in a metal band rather than a band who devote their music to god then it doesnt seem as much like they are forcing god yet again in my face. i dunno if that makes sense, if it dosnt just ignore me....i know what i mean

I wouldnt consider it forcing it on you, dont listen to it. Its more of just a celebration of the religion through artistic expression. What about bands with pagan religious messages? Do you listen to those?

Pagan realiguss paganism was death almoust 8 centuries in white word(no I dont use racism but desribe teritories where historical live white people ) christainity are 21 centuries soem places 8-7 so we cant talk about paganism, neo paganism yes but all ancient traditions are gone(like some ancient chrsitian traditions)

I have to say Crimson Moonlight sounds pretty good, alltough I am more fond of there melodic work but their new Death/Black sound is good to.

Written by VPeter on 28.03.2008 at 01:20

I have to say Crimson Moonlight sounds pretty good, alltough I am more fond of there melodic work but their new Death/Black sound is good to.

I agree one of best bands in Sweden but I like more old CM albums

An album to look forward to is the debut of FAITH FACTOR, a Christian metal band with Ski (DEADLY BLESSING) on vocals...
http://www.myspace.com/faithfactorrocks

I think Christianity has nothing to do with rocking therefor I cannot see/understand the use of such a metal genre. Rocking is about breaking rules, feeling free whereas Christianity sucks a lot of grandma's ass... maybe someone can enlighten me!

Written by eximius on 05.04.2008 at 20:46

I think Christianity has nothing to do with rocking therefor I cannot see/understand the use of such a metal genre. Rocking is about breaking rules, feeling free whereas Christianity sucks a lot of grandma's ass... maybe someone can enlighten me!

Sure, I'd love to enlighten you on this.

First, "Rocking", as you put it, is not about breaking the rules. Yes, often times a rebellious attitude is associated with Rock music, but that is not the soul reasoning behind the music. In fact there is no one reason behind said style of music.

Now you mention the concept of "breaking free", which is actually a very central part of basic Christian doctrine. When one accepts Christ as their Savior, they begin break their chains of vices. Jesus the Redeemer removes our bondage to this world and sets us on a path to freedom. If you listen to the lyrics of a band such as Demon Hunter or Living Sacrifice, you will find this theme of freedom to be one of the prominent premises.

When you use terminology such as "sucks ass", this shows not only an immature nature about yourself, but also an uneducated and somewhat spiteful mannerism too. I may be wrong, but it doesn't seem like you have a good grasp on exactly what Christianity is, or, more importantly for this thread, what does Christian Metal mean.

In reality, there is no such thing as Christian Metal. A Christian is a person who has accepted Christ and attempts to live up to His name. You can no more have Christian music than you can have a Christian car, a Christian bed or a Christian hamburger. You can have music written by Christians expressing their faith and writing music with some sort of Christian message in it, but the music itself cannot be Christian.

We use the term "Christian Metal" as a general term for any Metal band that some sort of Christian theme to the majority of their lyrics. These lyrics can be that of a praise and worship nature (Stryper, The Long Nose of God), personal reflection (Living Sacrifice, Immortal Souls), spiritual warfare (Demon Hunter, Sacred Warrior), Scriptural based (Saviour Machine, Place of Skulls) or any combination, plus other topics as well. There are also other Metal bands out there, which may not necessarily be considered "Christian Metal" but have Christian members in the band, and occasionally to often have songs that reflect this (Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Megadeth, Opeth, Anthrax, just to name a few big ones).

Written by Dane Train on 06.04.2008 at 00:47

Written by eximius on 05.04.2008 at 20:46

I think Christianity has nothing to do with rocking therefor I cannot see/understand the use of such a metal genre. Rocking is about breaking rules, feeling free whereas Christianity sucks a lot of grandma's ass... maybe someone can enlighten me!

Sure, I'd love to enlighten you on this.

First, "Rocking", as you put it, is not about breaking the rules. Yes, often times a rebellious attitude is associated with Rock music, but that is not the soul reasoning behind the music. In fact there is no one reason behind said style of music.

Now you mention the concept of "breaking free", which is actually a very central part of basic Christian doctrine. When one accepts Christ as their Savior, they begin break their chains of vices. Jesus the Redeemer removes our bondage to this world and sets us on a path to freedom. If you listen to the lyrics of a band such as Demon Hunter or Living Sacrifice, you will find this theme of freedom to be one of the prominent premises.

When you use terminology such as "sucks ass", this shows not only an immature nature about yourself, but also an uneducated and somewhat spiteful mannerism too. I may be wrong, but it doesn't seem like you have a good grasp on exactly what Christianity is, or, more importantly for this thread, what does Christian Metal mean.

In reality, there is no such thing as Christian Metal. A Christian is a person who has accepted Christ and attempts to live up to His name. You can no more have Christian music than you can have a Christian car, a Christian bed or a Christian hamburger. You can have music written by Christians expressing their faith and writing music with some sort of Christian message in it, but the music itself cannot be Christian.

We use the term "Christian Metal" as a general term for any Metal band that some sort of Christian theme to the majority of their lyrics. These lyrics can be that of a praise and worship nature (Stryper, The Long Nose of God), personal reflection (Living Sacrifice, Immortal Souls), spiritual warfare (Demon Hunter, Sacred Warrior), Scriptural based (Saviour Machine, Place of Skulls) or any combination, plus other topics as well. There are also other Metal bands out there, which may not necessarily be considered "Christian Metal" but have Christian members in the band, and occasionally to often have songs that reflect this (Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Megadeth, Opeth, Anthrax, just to name a few big ones).

I didn't come up with the term of Christian Metal, I just took on the idea of inserting biblical nonsense in such a great thing called metal... why not Christian Pop, or Christian Hip Hop ?
I think you were trying to make a joke telling me about christian hamburger and the fact that there is no such thing as Christian Metal. Yes it is, you can find it on metalstorm , you can find it in various articles all over the internet. You mistake Christian the adjective with Christian the noun. I cannot say Death Metal is made by Death because Death here is an adjective.
One thing I don't agree with: There are a lot of bands with christian members as you said even great ones like Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth but they do not go as near as you would want to making Christian Metal... they conceive music you say doesn't necessarily make people rebellious.. if they don't make people rebellious then those people sure have some problems, some receptive one... How can you feel when listening to "Anarchy In the UK" ... peaceful? i don't think so, and know what... it doesn't really need lyrics to give you a feeling of rebellion. It's all in the sound, in the music. There is music you can sleep on, There is music you can be hypnotized on, i also heard of music you can have intestine problems on but I'm not going to get into that cause I will make a bad "immature" and "uneducated" impression of myself.
Mainly Metal is not a music to which our bodies respond in a peaceful way, It's a music of freedom, a music on which even the most introvert person can feel ok...

Written by eximius on 06.04.2008 at 02:12

I didn't come up with the term of Christian Metal, I just took on the idea of inserting biblical nonsense in such a great thing called metal... why not Christian Pop, or Christian Hip Hop ?

I never said you came up with the name. The title actual comes out of the "Christian Rock" movement several decades ago. It was used as a marketing tool for record companies. Actually, there is "Christian Pop" such as U2, and the "Christian Hip Hop Scene" is actually very large. I also know plenty of Christians doing Trance, Blue Grass, Punk, and virtually every form of music out there.

Written by eximius on 06.04.2008 at 02:12

I think you were trying to make a joke telling me about christian hamburger and the fact that there is no such thing as Christian Metal. Yes it is, you can find it on metalstorm , you can find it in various articles all over the internet. You mistake Christian the adjective with Christian the noun. I cannot say Death Metal is made by Death because Death here is an adjective.

No, I wasn't really trying to make a joke. I was making a rather serious point, but used some humorous elements in the explanation to make one take notice of the aim.

Yes, you can find it on Metal Storm, and other articles around the Internet, and even most prominent in HM Magazine. But the term is used, as mentioned several times in this thread already, because "Christian Metal" is easier to say than "A Metal band that has Christian themed lyrics in their music." I am pretty sure you could agree with that. As Doug Pinnick once said "There is no Christian music. There is no Satanic music. There is just music."
Actually, last time I checked, Death did make Death Metal.

Yet, Death Metal is a specific sound. Just as Power Metal, Heavy Metal, Black Metal and Nu Metal are all genres defined by a specific sound. Christian Metal is a loose term used to describe any band that has Christian themes to their lyrics. There are Christian Thrash Metal, Progressive Metal, Doom Metal and Metalcore bands.

Written by eximius on 06.04.2008 at 02:12
One thing I don't agree with: There are a lot of bands with christian members as you said even great ones like Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth but they do not go as near as you would want to making Christian Metal...

I never said they made Christian music. Sure, Iron Maiden did a song based upon the one of the teachings of Jesus, but that was just one song.

Written by eximius on 06.04.2008 at 02:12
they conceive music you say doesn't necessarily make people rebellious.. if they don't make people rebellious then those people sure have some problems, some receptive one...

I really have never felt rebellious listening to Iron Maiden before. I feel more like leaping off my coach doing air guitar. There are millions of Metalheads in the world, and I am pretty sure that not all of them are rebellious. Sure, maybe when I was 13 I was rebellious, but that is not my lot in life. Or maybe I still am rebellious, by rebelling against the status quo of Metal Culture?

Written by eximius on 06.04.2008 at 02:12
How can you feel when listening to "Anarchy In the UK" ... peaceful? i don't think so, and know what... it doesn't really need lyrics to give you a feeling of rebellion

I usually feel like switching to a new song when I hear that one. If I want rebellious music, I'll stick with Operation: Mindcrime.

Written by eximius on 06.04.2008 at 02:12

Mainly Metal is not a music to which our bodies respond in a peaceful way, It's a music of freedom, a music on which even the most introvert person can feel ok...

I never said Metal wasn't peaceful. Some of it is, some of it isn't. For me, an album like Images & Words puts me in such a peaceful mood. There are all different types of Metal out there to provoke various emotional responses.

Divine Fire...their amazing,check'em out.

Written by [user id=31729] on 06.04.2008 at 03:03

Divine Fire...their amazing,check'em out.

What can you tell us about them? I have never heard them before.