Written by Damnated on 07.02.2009 at 20:10

This definitely stirred up my interest, and i even downloaded the album, but led zeppelin got in the way so i'll put this on later.
btw, i read somewhere that the band name is in hebrew; do you know if they are actually jewsih or just some pissed off muslims?

Written by Muhannad Saleh on 08.02.2009 at 01:08

I know the band and i hate the band they are just a group of fools nothing more nothing less am even shocked that they are reviewed here in metal storm not just them any band who are anti religion but thats my issue not yours i think they are a sell out without even getting started becuase their lyrics has no meaning or point and they are making it harder for us the metalheads and the bands in middle east to solve our problems by doing an unneeded attacks to religion as for their music i didnt even care to listen to them anyway they are Muslims as i understood from talking to some of their friends and fans .
at Lucas thanks so much for supporting the middle eastern metal music but there is many more bands who deserve this support more than those if you wish i can give you a lot of recommendations
and ayat its an arabic word which refer to the words in the holy Qura'an

Written by Sunioj on 08.02.2009 at 02:04

Written by Muhannad Saleh on 08.02.2009 at 01:08

I know the band and i hate the band they are just a group of fools nothing more nothing less am even shocked that they are reviewed here in metal storm not just them any band who are anti religion but thats my issue not yours i think they are a sell out without even getting started becuase their lyrics has no meaning or point and they are making it harder for us the metalheads and the bands in middle east to solve our problems by doing an unneeded attacks to religion as for their music i didnt even care to listen to them anyway they are Muslims as i understood from talking to some of their friends and fans .
at Lucas thanks so much for supporting the middle eastern metal music but there is many more bands who deserve this support more than those if you wish i can give you a lot of recommendations
and ayat its an arabic word which refer to the words in the holy Qura'an

I think the exact opposite. I think more middle eastern should stop focusing on being politically correct and show just what they think about their surroundings. Things that are so prevailent and oppressive in our region such as religion and fundamentalism definitely need to be rebelled against. I'm sick and tired of middle eastern metal bands being scared of stepping on peoples toes when it comes to expressing their ideals.

Yes, its easy for people to look at a certain band and say "Oh, they are just being anti religious for the sake of it, fucking posers", but its bands like these that make people question our environment, especially in our region. If the fundamentalists don't like it, that is their own problem.

Cheers.

Written by [user id=291] on 08.02.2009 at 16:46

It's interesting when you go and have a look at bands coming from the Middle-East in Metal-Archives.com you find almost half of them to be black metal bands with stupid anti-religious songs. I love it when bands like Motorhead, Slayer, Black Sabbath, Kreator, Behemoth, etc. make anti-religious songs.

But to find somebody who calls himself "Filthy Fuck" involved in 3 or 4 bands doing crap black metal (if it can be called metal at all) and just combining swear and curse words with words about religious. This is not metal and not music at all. Black metal blasphemous and extreme characteristics attract lots of posers in the Middle-East. Cursing something is miles away from criticising it.

Written by Sunioj on 08.02.2009 at 18:01

Written by [user id=291] on 08.02.2009 at 16:46

It's interesting when you go and have a look at bands coming from the Middle-East in Metal-Archives.com you find almost half of them to be black metal bands with stupid anti-religious songs. I love it when bands like Motorhead, Slayer, Black Sabbath, Kreator, Behemoth, etc. make anti-religious songs.

But to find somebody who calls himself "Filthy Fuck" involved in 3 or 4 bands doing crap black metal (if it can be called metal at all) and just combining swear and curse words with words about religious. This is not metal and not music at all. Black metal blasphemous and extreme characteristics attract lots of posers in the Middle-East. Cursing something is miles away from criticising it.

I don't really get your logic. So its fine when a non-black metal band has anti religious themes but a when a black metal band does it, they are "black metal bands with stupid anti-religious songs"? Are you just annoyed at cliches or what? And if so, listing Kreator, Behemoth, and Slayer doesn't hold much weight to your premise.

Secondly, who are you to define what is metal and what is music? I wasn't questioning the fact that this band can be a group of posers. My point is that in principle, its nice to hear a blatantly anti-religious band from an arabic country get some attention outside of their niche. I actually find the aesthetics of this band to be utterly hilarious. But if they manage to piss off some fundamentalists, then they are doing a good job imo. Especially in religiously oppressive countries. Ok, maybe its not as bad in Lebanon, I wouldn't know. But its definitely a lot WORSE in other countries.

Thirdly, I don't know how it is in other middle east countries, but if you want to talk about posers, nothing makes me more irate then some israeli band using anti-xian imagery to show how cult and rebellious they are, when you know that they wouldn't for a second even dare have anti-islamic, anti-zionist, or anti-judaism themes. To me that is the epitome of dickless posers. Thats why Melechesh will always have the biggest balls when it comes to middle east bands IMO.

Written by [user id=291] on 08.02.2009 at 18:38

Obviously you didn't get my point. I didn't say anything against black metal. There are many good black metal bands that sing against religion. It just happened that the examples I mentioned do not include any black metal band. But to be fair, I like Rotting Christ and some of Dimmu Borgir's songs. They both have anti-religious songs.

However, the extreme image of black metal attracts many people who are posers. You say "Who I'm to say this metal and this is not". I'm a metal fan (I've been into metal for more than 10 years) and I have the right to express my opinion about metal bands that I find and I wait for no one to give me permission to do so.

At the end, almost all of these bands that I talked about in the middle-east which claims to be black metal didn't prove themselves at all. In my country in Syria I saw several kids who just wanted to show off by doing this "blasphemous black metal". Look at any metal website, you will notice that black metal bands constitute maybe no more than 10 percent at best of the metal bands there. But curiously, in the middle-east half of the metal bands are black metal!

Why? Is it because black metal is the most popular metal style here or the one which is best expressing how metal fans feel there. It's just an extreme image that sells easily. There might be good black metal bands (and Melechesh is definitely one of them and one of my favourites) in the middle-east, but most of them they are stupid! If you find them to be very artistic and creative, then this is your taste. For me I despise them and I prefer Immortal, Rotting Christ, Enslaved, Emperor, etc.

Written by Muhannad Saleh on 08.02.2009 at 18:57

Well i dont know how many of you been in middle east or know about islam but since i am a Muslim and also i live and work along among the middle east metal scene please let me explain to you what i Think happened here
does ayat believe of their lyrics ? NO!! because they are Muslims so if they hated islam that much why the hell they are still Muslims ?!! thats why i labeled them as a sell out from the start to me any band who dont believe in their lyrics are a sell out
as for the anti religion in general i dont like it or respect why?? because religions are not a small or simple thing for us to judge we either to believe in it or not we may criticizing it from our point of view but we SHould never insult something we dont understand or disrespect religions

why did Ayat write such a lyrics if they didnt belive in it ?!! i think there is 2 reasons
1- because they wat to sell more and thats why most of the bands those days do such a thing
2- because in Lebanon happened alot of wars that mainly caused by groups fighting to rule such as 7ezeb Allah and many others and those groups used relgion as a tool ,weapon to gain more people to join them and support them and because of that alot thinks that religion is the reason for wars and start insulting it without even knowing what the hell they are talking about while in fact its US who cause war not religions or anything else
if you want to know more about metal in middle east just go to www.jorzine.com and read a book called Heavy metal islam and if you have any question just send me a message

Written by Sunioj on 08.02.2009 at 19:15

Written by [user id=291] on 08.02.2009 at 18:38

Obviously you didn't get my point. I didn't say anything against black metal. There are many good black metal bands that sing against religion. It just happened that the examples I mentioned do not include any black metal band. But to be fair, I like Rotting Christ and some of Dimmu Borgir's songs. They both have anti-religious songs.

However, the extreme image of black metal attracts many people who are posers. You say "Who I'm to say this metal and this is not". I'm a metal fan (I've been into metal for more than 10 years) and I have the right to express my opinion about metal bands that I find and I wait for no one to give me permission to do so.

At the end, almost all of these bands that I talked about in the middle-east which claims to be black metal didn't prove themselves at all. In my country in Syria I saw several kids who just wanted to show off by doing this "blasphemous black metal". Look at any metal website, you will notice that black metal bands constitute maybe no more than 10 percent at best of the metal bands there. But curiously, in the middle-east half of the metal bands are black metal!

Why? Is it because black metal is the most popular metal style here or the one which is best expressing how metal fans feel there. It's just an extreme image that sells easily. There might be good black metal bands (and Melechesh is definitely one of them and one of my favourites) in the middle-east, but most of them they are stupid! If you find them to be very artistic and creative, then this is your taste. For me I despise them and I prefer Immortal, Rotting Christ, Enslaved, Emperor, etc.

I agree with you. The extreme image does attract posers, but as I said, deriding posers is not my interest. Its the fact this band is blatantly anti-religious and from an arabic country that gives me the props for them. I rarely, and I emphasize, RARELY do I hear of bands from arabic countries that are this explicit.

I also do not know where you draw your statistics from, in terms of middle east-metal band to black metal genre ratio. If its MA, then kudos to you for sorting through all those bands to draw that conclusion. From what I've seen and heard being in Israel, most of the middle east bands I've encountred seem to be groove, metalcore, some death metal, folk and progressive. The black metal bands seem to play it safe by not using anti-religious imagery.

In terms of it being popular, I have seen some rise of it within the last two years or so. But not substantially at all. But I don't find it hard to believe that a bloke living in a town where he can't drink alcohol on the street, seens a mosque or church every block wouldn't be attracted to the aesthetic of black metal. I don't really see it as a bad thing either, because their love for black metal can be a release for all the tension they hold for all the crap around them. I would know because I felt just like that all the time.

I think our main difference is that you see bands like this as redundant. But as I said, I think the sole fact that they are from an arabic country and anti-religious is a good thing in itself. Regardless if whether they are posers or not, or if their music sucks. I'd get killed in my town if someone knew that I released music like this. And I'm not joking either.

Written by Sunioj on 08.02.2009 at 02:04

I think the exact opposite. I think more middle eastern should stop focusing on being politically correct and show just what they think about their surroundings. Things that are so prevailent and oppressive in our region such as religion and fundamentalism definitely need to be rebelled against. I'm sick and tired of middle eastern metal bands being scared of stepping on peoples toes when it comes to expressing their ideals.

Yes, its easy for people to look at a certain band and say "Oh, they are just being anti religious for the sake of it, fucking posers", but its bands like these that make people question our environment, especially in our region. If the fundamentalists don't like it, that is their own problem.

Cheers.

Written by Sunioj on 07.02.2009 at 21:12

Doesn't sound like a hebrew name, its arabic. Their MA archive says that they are from Lebanon. I lol'd at 'Alahiya Khinzir', I never dreamed of seeing a song title like that in metal, its about time hahahahaha.

Gonna check this out too.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 27.06.2012 at 23:39

Written by Sunioj on 07.02.2009 at 21:12

Doesn't sound like a hebrew name, its arabic. Their MA archive says that they are from Lebanon. I lol'd at 'Alahiya Khinzir', I never dreamed of seeing a song title like that in metal, its about time hahahahaha.

Gonna check this out too.

Old question but... what does 'Alahiya Khinzir' mean?