HallowedBeMyName
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The 2000 albums not complex?? to whoever said that.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:09Rating: 10
Where did you go, nippleface? I thought you wanted an "intelligent" discussion?
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HallowedBeMyName
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He ran away, he couldn't put up a strong enough argument.
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Poto
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Is this the place to be if I want a good discussion about life, love and Maiden?
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RobotPolarBear
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So, LordMaiden, where did you get the idea that I'm a Maiden fan? I never gave my opinion on the band, or any of their material. I never said anything about the complexity of Maiden's recent output, either. And I'm not here for an "intelligent" discussion.
Also, @ the insults. If you wanted an intelligent discussion at any point, then you're certainly not giving any indications of such.
Quote: He ran away, he couldn't put up a strong enough argument.
I was never arguing about the quality of Maiden's output. At least, I wasn't trying to; my posts may have come across as such. If they did, I apologise.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:16Rating: 10
Written by RobotPolarBear on 14.08.2010 at 03:13
So, LordMaiden, where did you get the idea that I'm a Maiden fan? I never gave my opinion on the band, or any of their material. I never said anything about the complexity of Maiden's recent output, either. And I'm not here for an "intelligent" discussion.
Also, @ the insults. If you wanted an intelligent discussion at any point, then you're certainly not giving any indications of such.
How can you promote an intelligent discussion with a Maiden fanboy if you don't like Maiden?
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:18Rating: 10
Written by RobotPolarBear on 14.08.2010 at 03:13
So, LordMaiden, where did you get the idea that I'm a Maiden fan? I never gave my opinion on the band, or any of their material. I never said anything about the complexity of Maiden's recent output, either. And I'm not here for an "intelligent" discussion.
Also, @ the insults. If you wanted an intelligent discussion at any point, then you're certainly not giving any indications of such.
Quote: He ran away, he couldn't put up a strong enough argument.
I was never arguing about the quality of Maiden's output. At least, I wasn't trying to; my posts may have come across as such. If they did, I apologise.
Good, because you would obviously be smitten by my incomprehensible knowledge of such, which is why you seem silly asking a Maiden fanboy to have an intelligent discussion about something you don't even give a shit about.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:20Rating: 10
OK, off with your little head. I need someone who is going to argue Maiden with me. If not, I'll retreat to my hometown where people actually fucking know what they're talking about.
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Poto
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Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 02:45
Written by HallowedBeMyName on 14.08.2010 at 02:31
I'm just saying that it is stupid to dislike something without providing reason. All I'm asking for is just a simple reason, that's all.
As to why "The Final Frontier" and every Maiden album after SSOASS sucks from my point of view, I told it already: songwriting. If you compare anything post-SSOASS to the 80s stuff, it sounds so simple, basic and uninspired compared to the complexity and originality of the old days that it pales in comparison. Also, there's nothing left of the rawness and intensity of old. No energy at all.
Sounds simple? Dream of Mirrors is simple? Or Sign of the Cross? Paschendale? Brighter Than a Thousand Suns? Isle of Avalon?
It's the silliest thing I have ever heard. Bullshit. I'd rather penetrate a pineapple that's turned inside-out than thinking like you.
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RavenKing
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14.08.2010 - 03:21Rating: 2
This thread is the most pathetic failure I've seen in a long time.
And to those who think the post-2000 material is complex, there's nothing complex in plodding, dragging songs that have so little to offer they should be only 3-4 minutes long but are stretched to the brink of insanity. It's nothing compared to the complexity Maiden displayed on "Somewhere In Time" and "Seventh Son".
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They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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RobotPolarBear
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Quote: This thread is the most pathetic failure I've seen in a long time.
Despite contributing to a portion of the fail, I have to agree with you.
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HallowedBeMyName
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Written by Poto on 14.08.2010 at 03:21
Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 02:45
Written by HallowedBeMyName on 14.08.2010 at 02:31
I'm just saying that it is stupid to dislike something without providing reason. All I'm asking for is just a simple reason, that's all.
As to why "The Final Frontier" and every Maiden album after SSOASS sucks from my point of view, I told it already: songwriting. If you compare anything post-SSOASS to the 80s stuff, it sounds so simple, basic and uninspired compared to the complexity and originality of the old days that it pales in comparison. Also, there's nothing left of the rawness and intensity of old. No energy at all.
Sounds simple? Dream of Mirrors is simple? Or Sign of the Cross? Paschendale? Brighter Than a Thousand Suns? Isle of Avalon?
It's the silliest thing I have ever heard. Bullshit. I'd rather penetrate a pineapple that's turned inside-out than thinking like you.
Exactly That guy is just talking out of his ass.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:26Rating: 10
Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:21
This thread is the most pathetic failure I've seen in a long time.
And to those who think the post-2000 material is complex, there's nothing complex in plodding, dragging songs that have so little to offer they should be only 3-4 minutes long but are stretched to the brink of insanity. It's nothing compared to the complexity Maiden displayed on "Somewhere In Time" and "Seventh Son".
You people are simply too ignorant to see the difference between complexity and mock-progressive.
It started getting complex on DoD and the albums thereafter became even more complex. This is simple fact.
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RavenKing
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14.08.2010 - 03:27Rating: 2
Written by LordMaiden on 14.08.2010 at 03:26
It started getting complex on DoD and the albums thereafter became even more complex. This is simple fact.
Bullshit.
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They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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Poto
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Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:21
This thread is the most pathetic failure I've seen in a long time.
And to those who think the post-2000 material is complex, there's nothing complex in plodding, dragging songs that have so little to offer they should be only 3-4 minutes long but are stretched to the brink of insanity. It's nothing compared to the complexity Maiden displayed on "Somewhere In Time" and "Seventh Son".
You people are simply too ignorant to see the difference between complexity and mock-progressive.
Those songs are definitely complex. I mean, just listen to them. They have many rhytmchanges and everything. Being able to pull them off live is astonishing.
You might not like Maidens recent material, but it's plain stupidity to say they are doing simple songs. That's crazy.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:27Rating: 10
And when I say DoD, I'm not talking about the entire album, rather the organic structure and sound of it along with a Pachendale.
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HallowedBeMyName
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How can you put up a smart argument with someone who actually KNOWS Maiden (LordMaiden) if you think everything post-Seventh Son is simplistic? Paschendale, those lyrics would bring a tear to your eye, and that's saying the least of that song's beauty.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:28Rating: 10
Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:27
Written by LordMaiden on 14.08.2010 at 03:26
It started getting complex on DoD and the albums thereafter became even more complex. This is simple fact.
Bullshit.
Oh, yeah? How?
Have you even listened to TFF? Or did you stop two seconds in?
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:29Rating: 10
What the fuck? Does this guy listen to Twisted Sister every day? Get the fuck off the net and destroy your computer.
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Poto
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Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:27
Written by LordMaiden on 14.08.2010 at 03:26
It started getting complex on DoD and the albums thereafter became even more complex. This is simple fact.
Bullshit.
No. It's not. The problem is that you think music you don't like isn't complex.
There is a good reason why Maiden removed Paschendale from their set this year. It was to difficult to pull off live. Is that clear enough for you?
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RavenKing
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14.08.2010 - 03:30Rating: 2
OK. I argued enough with foolish fanboys. You obviously don't have the brains to get the point.
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They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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Papa_Ray
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14.08.2010 - 03:31Rating: 10
Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:21
And to those who think the post-2000 material is complex, there's nothing complex in plodding, dragging songs that have so little to offer they should be only 3-4 minutes long but are stretched to the brink of insanity.
There appears to be a shithead amongst us.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:32Rating: 10
Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:30
OK. I argued enough with foolish fanboys. You obviously don't have the brains to get the point.
Nah, you're just running away with your tail between your legs because Hallowed and I know what we are talking about. You're a fucking poser bitch who gave up after Dickinson left and only look at the surface of things now. Go ahead, get out. You're boring.
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:33Rating: 10
That's two little mice I just stepped on. I thought there were more here.
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HallowedBeMyName
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Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:30
OK. I argued enough with foolish fanboys. You obviously don't have the brains to get the point.
That's Dictator's attempt at trying to escape our actual knowledge of the band.
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Poto
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Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:30
OK. I argued enough with foolish fanboys. You obviously don't have the brains to get the point.
Do you have porridge between your ears?
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:37Rating: 10
Cool, now Hallowed and I have Poto. It's like, I spawned two more cities in Civilization and quickly developed nukes so we can mushroom cloud these cuntrags.
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RavenKing
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14.08.2010 - 03:38Rating: 2
If only you had any idea how I find it laughable to be accused of being a poser by mainstream metal fans like you guys, while I listen almost exclusively to Black Metal nowadays. Unlike you, I listen to real metal and not mock-progressive mainstream metal garbage. But feel free to believe your fancies.
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They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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HallowedBeMyName
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Written by RavenKing on 14.08.2010 at 03:38
If only you had any idea how I find it laughable to be accused of being a poser by mainstream metal fans like you guys, while I listen almost exclusively to Black Metal nowadays. Unlike you, I listen to real metal and not mock-progressive mainstream metal garbage. But feel free to believe your fancies.
MAINSTREAM METAL?? Are you just a full-blown idiot?
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LordMaiden
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14.08.2010 - 03:39Rating: 10
HA! Black metal? Dude, BM is total horseshit. Well, I did like Mayhem at one point....
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