Whoever doesn't get Sabbath or at least doesn't understand their significance in music history shouldn't discuss about music with me seriously.

Overrated a bit imo, not top 3 of Sabbath. It's influential, sure, but not as much as the debut or Master of Reality, and Heaven & Hell is just a better record

Love this album, even though the title-track is and overrated and overplayed one. Also, I can't possibly be the only one who thinks J. Hetfield drew inspiration from War Pigs for MoP.

Written by LedZep on 19.11.2019 at 19:49

Overrated a bit imo, not top 3 of Sabbath. It's influential, sure, but not as much as the debut or Master of Reality, and Heaven & Hell is just a better record

Heaven And Hell is the overrated one IMO. Not a bad album by any means, but it relies too heavily on Dio's godlike vocals and less on atmosphere and Tony's riffing.

This album is crazy good, I love it. Nearly every track here is a classic of some sort, like War Pigs, Iron Man, Planet Caravan... Electric Funeral also has that one awesome "whang whang" -effect that hits me every time just in the right place. The title track is overrated as hell, maybe it's just so simple and catchy that pretty much everybody can get into it and learn to sing and play it regardless of age or taste.

Written by Metal Diogenes on 05.03.2020 at 01:59

This album is crazy good, I love it. Nearly every track here is a classic of some sort, like War Pigs, Iron Man, Planet Caravan... Electric Funeral also has that one awesome "whang whang" -effect that hits me every time just in the right place. The title track is overrated as hell, maybe it's just so simple and catchy that pretty much everybody can get into it and learn to sing and play it regardless of age or taste.

Their 2. Best same whit ozzy, only self titeled are better

I have always thought: No need to comment on this classic album. It is all there, oh so obvious.
The foundation of everything we are talking about here. The ultimate album.
Now I just thought: Reminding everybody of this fact might still be worth a comment.

(please dont take him too seriously sometimes )

Written by Redel on 19.12.2020 at 23:56

I have always thought: No need to comment on this classic album. It is all there, oh so obvious.
The foundation of everything we are talking about here. The ultimate album.
Now I just thought: Reminding everybody of this fact might still be worth a comment.

(please dont take him too seriously sometimes )

You got an upvote from me on the Epicus Doomicus Metallicus thread for the same reason that you get one here too. It is always good to be reminded what a true 10 really is. It may even help reduce our vote abuse problem, because it gives perspective of what a real masterpiece sounds like. Keep doing what you are doing

Written by nikarg on 20.12.2020 at 00:35

You got an upvote from me on the Epicus Doomicus Metallicus thread for the same reason that you get one here too. It is always good to be reminded what a true 10 really is. It may even help reduce our vote abuse problem, because it gives perspective of what a real masterpiece sounds like. Keep doing what you are doing

Thanks, nice to know.
With the ratings, I dont know. For me they are a relative matter anyway. Meaning, I have 10s on my most appreciated albums of all time. And I allow myself 10s on some undefined fraction of the total number of votes I have (be it something in the range of 1% and 2%). Meaning, with increasing number of albums I vote for, I will also be allowed to increase the number of 10s I give. Whereas, most of the people on MS seem to vote in absolute terms -- 10s only on albums that are "perfect".
Anyway... happy to see you replying frequently on my posts

The classic of the classics.. this one set the standard for heavy metal and to this day not many have been able to outperform it.

Significantly better than their groundbreaking but inconsistent debut.

9.7/10 for me - 'Planet Caravan', 'Hand Of Doom' and 'Rat Salad' are weaker than the other songs.

Written by Mountain King on 22.04.2018 at 21:19

They paved the way for pure metal music but I don't like this album despite some goods songs and good parts in some songs. 1 or 2 songs from each Ozzy era album and that's it for me.

If a band is responsible for creating a genre or paving a way doesn't mean that their albums are 10/10 and 11/10. Taking the date of release aside, Heaven and Hell or Headless Cross are way way better than any Sabbath album from the 70's. I don't see why an album needs to be regarded as legendary just because some people thought it is and it went on for the next 50 years.

Edit:

I upped my rating from 5 (which was of course too harsh) to 7 because despite this not being in my top albums, some songs have finally grown on me for some reason (War Pigs and Fairies Wear Boots). It is also the most consistent and most enjoyable Ozzy Era album for me.

My favorite Ozzy album is Master of Reality. Every song on there is nice. I'm generally more of a Dio fan, so I also love Heaven and Hell. Mob Rules is also good. I agree that a couple of songs from Sabbath's 70s albums are great, but it's tough to find consistently good albums. That's why I look for compilation albums

Paranoid was of course innovative for its time and very influential. The guitar, bass, and drums are undeniably great. However, I don't like Ozzy's vocals on this album - they get kind of annoying. (I prefer his vocals on Master of Reality.)

Absolutely perfect

Legendary. Iconic. Timeless. A bloody masterpiece! Best Black Sabbath album, period. In top 5 best albums ever recorded, for sure. 10/10
God bless you all!

It's been sailing for 54 yrs now is itself a timeless beauty. One of the best metal albums of all time.