Zap
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Hooray, someone else who wasn't totally let down by the album. I personally didn't have a problem with the drums but they don't stand out, that's true. Totally agreed on the bass shining here, though.
Interesting that you find it most similar to Chimera, I should give that one another spin, it has been a while.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
03.11.2019 - 21:27Rating: 8
Written by Zap on 03.11.2019 at 21:15 Interesting that you find it most similar to Chimera, I should give that one another spin, it has been a while.
Perhaps I should have clarified that the sound of this album borrows from DMDS AND Chimera. The first more in terms of overall sound, warmth and presence but Chimera definitely with production aspects and on which factors it focuses on. Those two albums are the most traditional in their discography that's why I decided to comment on Chimera as well and draw some parallels
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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I feel pretty much the same about this album as I do the new BAN one: not necessarily as experimental as I was expecting, but it's still pretty good for what it is. I admittedly haven't listened to this since we listened to it together a few weeks ago but I remember Attila's vocals and the bass being particularly good. Excellent review!
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Not fan of b tracks as well, maybe cover versions,
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Karlabos
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04.11.2019 - 00:40Rating: 6
Written by Auntie Sahar on 03.11.2019 at 21:46
but I remember Attila's vocals and the bass being particularly good.
Pretty good, but not Attila good
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6099 |
04.11.2019 - 09:57Rating: 8
Quote: They never released an unnecessary album in 35 fucking years.
What is an unnecessary album? The one that one does not like?
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
04.11.2019 - 10:06Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 04.11.2019 at 09:57
Quote: They never released an unnecessary album in 35 fucking years.
What is an unnecessary album? The one that one does not like?
In hindsight, i should have worked it better. Blame it on my lack of proper english adjectives. But no. I dont mean an album you dont like. Just an album that Adds little to nothing new to a Bands discography and that lacks a voice of its own compared to the rest of the works of said band.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6099 |
04.11.2019 - 11:24Rating: 8
Written by X-Ray Rod on 04.11.2019 at 10:06
In hindsight, i should have worked it better. Blame it on my lack of proper english adjectives. But no. I dont mean an album you dont like. Just an album that Adds little to nothing new to a Bands discography and that lacks a voice of its own compared to the rest of the works of said band.
I get your point now. I welcomed "Daemon" as something logical in Mayhem's discography. Each and every album was different from others, and that makes the band quite unique. A return to their debut, which "Daemon" essentially is, makes perfect sense. Also because this return is quite great, a solid 8 from me.
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I managed to find the remaster of Grand Declaration of War at a local FYE. Bought it even though I've never heard it.
I can tell you right now that is gonna be getting way more spins than this album is.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
04.11.2019 - 15:55Rating: 8
Written by [user id=220667] on 04.11.2019 at 15:50
I managed to find the remaster of Grand Declaration of War at a local FYE. Bought it even though I've never heard it.
I can tell you right now that is gonna be getting way more spins than this album is.
I found that remaster to be missing completely the point of the cold, clinical war concept of the album.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6099 |
04.11.2019 - 16:33Rating: 8
Written by X-Ray Rod on 04.11.2019 at 15:55
I found that remaster to be missing completely the point of the cold, clinical war concept of the album.
Sometines bad production is just bad production. It's us, the listeners, who are prone to ascribe the production to albums' themes.
To prove my point, let me ask you one question: if the cold, clinical sound was intended on GDoW, and was supposed to reflect the album's overall theme, why would the band re-mix it at all?
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
04.11.2019 - 18:17Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 04.11.2019 at 16:33
Written by X-Ray Rod on 04.11.2019 at 15:55
I found that remaster to be missing completely the point of the cold, clinical war concept of the album.
Sometines bad production is just bad production. It's us, the listeners, who are prone to ascribe the production to albums' themes.
To prove my point, let me ask you one question: if the cold, clinical sound was intended on GDoW, and was supposed to reflect the album's overall theme, why would the band re-mix it at all?
Not the first time I mistrust the judgement of the band members themselves when it comes to remasters or remixes. It goes without saying that this falls under personal opinion and I never stated otherwise. In my opinion they did ruin the feeling of the album and it became less unique and interesting with the more orthodox mix.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6099 |
04.11.2019 - 21:19Rating: 8
Written by X-Ray Rod on 04.11.2019 at 18:17
Not the first time I mistrust the judgement of the band members themselves when it comes to remasters or remixes. It goes without saying that this falls under personal opinion and I never stated otherwise. In my opinion they did ruin the feeling of the album and it became less unique and interesting with the more orthodox mix.
When it comes to GDoW I agree with you. The new remix sounds really great, but I still prefer the original version. I simply find it interesting to listen to new remixes of albums I like. It adds another dimension to my reception of those albums.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
04.11.2019 - 21:25Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 04.11.2019 at 21:19 When it comes to GDoW I agree with you. The new remix sounds really great, but I still prefer the original version. I simply find it interesting to listen to new remixes of albums I like. It adds another dimension to my reception of those albums.
Oh, in that I can absolutely agree with you. I may not like it but I was obviously deeply curious about it when it came out and it's always fascinating for a research perspective about the bands that I love. It's definitely not bad and I understand the appeal. Just not what I had in mind for the album.
Going a bit back on topic:
Quote: I welcomed "Daemon" as something logical in Mayhem's discography. Each and every album was different from others, and that makes the band quite unique. A return to their debut, which "Daemon" essentially is, makes perfect sense. Also because this return is quite great, a solid 8 from me.
That's my takeaway too in the long run. It's a return to roots (plus some extra groove and modern production) and it's a logical move considering what the band has being doing in the live concert department.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6099 |
04.11.2019 - 21:35Rating: 8
Written by X-Ray Rod on 04.11.2019 at 21:25
That's my takeaway too in the long run. It's a return to roots (plus some extra groove and modern production) and it's a logical move considering what the band has being doing in the live concert department.
I listened to Daemon today in my car. I think it gets better after numerous listens. I'll listen to it again tomorrow during my run.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
04.11.2019 - 21:53Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 04.11.2019 at 21:35 I listened to Daemon today in my car. I think it gets better after numerous listens. I'll listen to it again tomorrow during my run.
It does get better. And one thing I don't understand is that I've read quite a few times about the second half losing steam. Man, i thought the first song of the second half "Aeon Daemonium" was one of the strongest. Same with "Daemon Spawn" and "Of Worms And Ruins"
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Lord Slothrop
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05.11.2019 - 05:26Rating: 8
I like their experimental output better, but this is another solid release in a solid catalogue.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
This is an incredibly fair review. I'd personally score it closer to the lower end of 7 but you provided some solid reasoning for the high 7. If there ever was an unneccessary Mayhem album, this is it, but it's still worth listening to. Their greatest strength is in their experimentation though. Other bands do the more traditional and conventional black metal style with more gravitas.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
05.11.2019 - 07:46Rating: 8
Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.11.2019 at 06:31 Other bands do the more traditional and conventional black metal style with more gravitas.
Man, remember Infestus? Hmmmmmmmm. <3
Thank you for the kind words, from a reviewer like you it means a lot. Took me a while to gather all my thoughts on this album and I still feel like there was more to say (although I can't say what exactly, just a feeling). Had a discussion with myself of at least 10 minutes regarding 7,7 or 7,8, which is one of the reasons I was in favor of ditching ratings haha but now might coming back for. Not that there's much difference between the numbers, both represent the mid-to-high level I was looking for to explain.
And yeah, their experimental stuff is way better. the rating and text could have gone to another route of I wanted to solely compare it to those works which feels unfair.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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05.11.2019 - 08:22Rating: 6
Incredibly great review.
My exact thoughts when I spun this last night journeying from one cold station of North to the central part of India.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.11.2019 at 06:31
If there ever was an unneccessary Mayhem album, this is it, but it's still worth listening to.
This. Exact reason why I'm not rushing to listen to it. Whereas when the single Psywar was released in 2014, I couldn't even wait to get to listen to the full thing.
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Dean0495
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03.12.2019 - 15:16Rating: 10
After listening to this album several times I came to conclusion that, I think this is my favorite Mayhem album. It gets better after more listening.
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