chris_metalhead
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I like the album
But yeah, definately more of the same. But sometimes that isn't a bad thing
I would like to see them do something a bit different though. And Galder could definately take a role in the vocals. I probably prefer OMC to Dimmu.
I totally agree with the rewiew though. Nice one
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Jason W. Razorbliss StaffPosts: 3523 |
17.06.2007 - 09:28Rating: 8
Nice review You're right, a lot of the DB formula from 4 years ago is still there. I was expecting something a bit more evolutionary considering the 4 years in between releases. I also can't stand the "bonus track" setup -- seriously, does the bonus for the American version have to be track 6? And I wonder what the other "bonus" sounds like : . I still appreciate the vocal work of the two, and in fact enjoy the vocals on this CD more than the guitarwork, which was the opposite on Death Cult Armageddon. But that's just personal taste... again, thumbs up on the review, it says and feels similar to my opinions as well
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i dont like to much the cd!! i dont think Hellhammer its a good drummer!! to me Nicolas Barker is 10000 better!!
ppl buy the cd because its Dimmu Borgir!!! its all about the money!!!
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Damned-In-Black
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17.06.2007 - 11:28Rating: 6
I agree with most all said in the review, except for the rating. For me, Death Cult Armageddon is around an 8. This borrows the same formula while being all-round slightly less engaging a listen, in my opinion - a 6 from me.
It's not bad though.
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X-FrEaK
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17.06.2007 - 14:41Rating: 6
i agree with the review and the score is good, maybe a 7.5/8 would be better because Death Cult Armageddon was better and i would give it a 9
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Katatronik Angel of Lust
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17.06.2007 - 14:51Rating: 9
Agree with you too! Good album but so far from Puritanical and worse than Death Cult Armageddon IMO. Truthly, I expected more
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Infurnace
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Good review . I really like the album. IMO it's better than Death Cult Armageddon. I would give the album an 8,5/9.
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=maD.Doc:. Melodeath Master
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Written by [user id=21548] on 17.06.2007 at 10:37
i dont like to much the cd!! i dont think Hellhammer its a good drummer!! to me Nicolas Barker is 10000 better!!
ppl buy the cd because its Dimmu Borgir!!! its all about the money!!!
Wrong, wrong, wrong! I've said it before, and I will say it again. If you play music only for the money, Metal is the wrong kind of music to play, you get almost nothing when you play metal. It's just so you can live, pay your bills and buy food and stuff. Nothing bigger than that, at least not for the records. The bands get most of their money from the merch they're selling not the records.
Anyways! Good review! Like it a lot and agree with you fully! But still it's a great record, and Dimmu plays their safe card so to speak
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Jiri
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17.06.2007 - 19:03Rating: 7
This is a good review, it was a very solid album.
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Paradox0 Unasuming Madnes
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17.06.2007 - 21:41Rating: 5
I agree with the review mostly (at the 99% level actually). The album had the same musicianship of there previous album but no songs really came out as anything special, most kind of having a generic sound.
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
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18.06.2007 - 03:25Rating: 7
Written by [user id=21548] on 17.06.2007 at 10:37
i dont like to much the cd!! i dont think Hellhammer its a good drummer!! to me Nicolas Barker is 10000 better!!
I agree...well I don't think Hellhammer is bad, but he's not nearly as good as Nick Barker.
This is my least favorite album by Dimmu, and really the only album by them I don't care much for.
Like people have already said, I would also like to hear Galder do some vocals.
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Herzebeth
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I did hear the album do to its praising, I found what I've been hearing since Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia, maybe the riffs are a little better than beofre, but the songwriting is really plain in my opinion.
I still can't stand those keys
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18.06.2007 - 12:30Rating: 4
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This album is a heap of crap. Much like DCA, only without the occasional catchy moments which made the latter just a bit more listenable.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
DCA had its enjoable moments for me but this is just utterly over the top produced boring to me.
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Spyroid Rosetta Stoned
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Written by Dangerboner on 18.06.2007 at 03:25
Written by [user id=21548] on 17.06.2007 at 10:37
i dont like to much the cd!! i dont think Hellhammer its a good drummer!! to me Nicolas Barker is 10000 better!!
I agree...well I don't think Hellhammer is bad, but he's not nearly as good as Nick Barker.
This is my least favorite album by Dimmu, and really the only album by them I don't care much for.
Like people have already said, I would also like to hear Galder do some vocals.
It depends what you put in "good". I don't think many people here are so indulged in music that you can make that kind of statement, that HH is not nearly as good as Barker (and if you are one of theese, I apologie). Hellhammer has many qualities, and Barker has many, personally I prefer Barker because I find much more cathyness in his playing, but I certainly wouldn't say that he outplays Hellhammer. At least, mr. Blomberg is faster, that IS a fact.
Personally I don't agree much with the review. I don't think it follows the same formula as DCA since they're removed the orchestra, which was everything in DCA. It's not a bad album, Dimmu is still one of my favourite symphonic bands, but DCA is better, and I think that ISD lacks of inspiration.
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Written by Infurnace on 17.06.2007 at 16:07
Good review . I really like the album. IMO it's better than Death Cult Armageddon. I would give the album an 8,5/9.
I totally agree myself, their other work gave off more of a masterpiece feel to it, while with this album- well, you know............lol
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
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18.06.2007 - 22:45Rating: 7
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Spyroid Rosetta Stoned
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Written by Dangerboner on 18.06.2007 at 22:45
Written by Spyroid on 18.06.2007 at 18:07
Written by Dangerboner on 18.06.2007 at 03:25
Written by [user id=21548] on 17.06.2007 at 10:37
i dont like to much the cd!! i dont think Hellhammer its a good drummer!! to me Nicolas Barker is 10000 better!!
I agree...well I don't think Hellhammer is bad, but he's not nearly as good as Nick Barker.
This is my least favorite album by Dimmu, and really the only album by them I don't care much for.
Like people have already said, I would also like to hear Galder do some vocals.
At least, mr. Blomberg is faster, that IS a fact.
hehe uhh well, Nick Barker plays with Anaal Nathrakh, a band that has to use a drum machine because they couldn't find a drummer fast enough to play with them, until they found Nick.
He really is extremely fast, and I love his style, I even plan to travell about 300 km to see him with Testament but isn't HH regarded as the fastes in the metal world? I though that was agreed by everyone ^_^
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
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18.06.2007 - 23:24Rating: 7
lol well I don't want to turn this into a fastest drumming debate, but there are plenty of death metal drummers, such as Tim Yeung and Derek Roddy, that are way faster.
But about the cd, I find the production to be really annoying. Now, I prefer clear production over the super tr00 flat production that some people enjoy, but this is just ridiculous. I can't play this on my sound system because the bass drum sounds horribly overproduced.
Oh, and about the layout - I think it's great how big and extensive the booklet is, but I can't fucking read anything! The font they used hurts my eyes...
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Darth Satanious Post Destroyer
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Nicholas Barker is definitely a little faster than Hellhammer, at least in what I have seen displayed by both of them. Barker uses his wrist in such a high speed when moving the stick that he produces this sound reminiscent to a thud due to the lack of time in the interval between the hits on the drums and I haven't heard Hellhammer doing this in his drum kit yet. Of course, we can't let out reasons for this such as considering that Hellhammer does not appeal to insert such speed and sound to the songs he plays because in fact such speed makes the hits to be hard to discern. Perhaps it is not his style at all... perhaps he can't do it, I don't know.
The only way to know the truth behind this would be to see/hear Hellhammer drumming to old Dimmu tracks featuring Nicholas Barker and watch how he plays that stuff. On the other hand, when it comes to variation and awkwardness in drumming patters, I prefer Hellhammer even when in this latest Dimmu album there is not much prowess displayed by our Norwegian drumming deity.
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+{Jonas}+ I R Serious Cat
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20.06.2007 - 16:56Rating: 9
This album is certainly more of the same, it could be like a DCA 2, musically speaking. The whole concept is interesting. Not very creative, but interesting, some sort of variation. Dimmu is a great band, and this album, IMO, is nothing but the prove that they are going to continue the started in DCA, I think that will be their way from now on.
PD: I laughed whe I knew the cover was censured in the USA
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VPeter
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it's still garbage in my opinion. It's the same boring pop black metal of DCA, unless they get rid of the pop edge they will still continue to make garbage. the only good thing is the drums, Hellhammer is so much better then Barker, nothing wrong with Barker tough.
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Why would be a bm concept album so original? The Ulver did it thirteen years ago with Bergtatt. The concept was a very original "fairytale", not that boring stuff with sacrificing virgin goats in the name of Satan, and how religion sucks, and blah-blah.
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Sunioj
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My two cents:
Uber cliche album cover
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Sent
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24.06.2007 - 21:01Rating: 7
And by the way: Reno Kiilerich is the fastest drummer
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Paganblood The Aryaputra
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imo the songs in this album don't seem to change.. The first track was very good, but as I moved furthur listening to the album, I was disappointed.I guess Dimmu Borgir will get the 'biggest letdown' (isn't it so?) award...
anyway, good review
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Deadsoulman ElitePosts: 8004 |
Looks like I'm almost the only one to think that, but I find this one way better than DCA. I still don't understand how DCA can be considered like a good album...
This one has better songwriting and they finally got back to not using over-the-top orchestras like on DCA. And I like the vocals as well. Anyway, fine album IMO.
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CreeperDeath
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28.06.2007 - 16:31Rating: 8
I agree with you on some fact, the album can be boring the first listening to.. It's STILL Dimmu Borgir, they are evoluating.. DCA was a real shit to me... Only progenies was good... (I dont want to debate on this......) And listen to the guitar work; some psycho interludes and riffs.. The Invaluable Darkness ! The Sacrilegious Scorn. Anyway, you can think whatever you think, I think this album is pretty good, not every songs are good tough.
The concept tough, don't really catch me alot... But I dont give a shit about it, its just a story I didnt take time to read it.
Anyway, this album is my second favorite after PEM.
I think it just a question of taste, yes its faster.. so what lol ? listen to doom metal if you want it slow..
I give this album 9/10
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Paradox0 Unasuming Madnes
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04.08.2007 - 22:35Rating: 5
I think this album kind of fails in the mixing process. Hellhammer is a fast drummer, but he just seems to do the change rythms enough to be very interesting, so I think they should have atleast lowered the volume of his drums (they didn't seem to loud on any arcturus albums anyways)
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It's funny cause everywhere I read people are saying the same things...... 1. Borgir is amazing. 2. Their new album "In Sorte Diaboli" is nothing new. 3. It's not "true" black metal.
Personally, I like the band. A lot as a matter of fact. And the truth is, they're not "true" black metal (meaning STRICTLY black metal), they are symphonic/extreme black metal. You can't just say a band is one genre, because bands naturally tend to change as they continue to play music; trying new things out and whatnot. Yeah, it seems like In Sorte Diaboli has many similarities to DCA and PEM, but that's cool, some people like that sound, and no, it's not "true" norweigen black metal. Maybe some of their older stuff was a lot closer to "true" black metal, but like I said, bands change (and some don't), and it all depends on what the listener likes. Does "Are You Dead Yet" from Bodom sound like their older album "Hatebreeder" for example? Not too much, but that doesn't mean that their music NOW is any worse than what it was THEN. Not to me anyway, they've always been good too, but that's just what I like. I'm just tired of ready the same album reviews of the same type of people hating about things that are just common sense. And to be honest, I'm doing the same thing, I'm just bitching about someone else's bitching and pointing out whats wrong with it, and there are going to be people who will agree with me AND bitch about this very comment, because everyone's different.
Dimmu Borgir kicks ass, and if I could make a little side money doing the thing I love most, I would too..... It's not their fault people like them. They're just doing what they do.:dcool:
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