Powerslavex Alexskywalker
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Written by Nicko's Nose on 30.06.2009 at 05:52
The Count Of Tuscany is one of their best songs (musically) and The Best Of Times gets better and better with every listen. This review fails.
"but like an album from these guys, I wait at least 6 months to fully review it"
Yeah, you should always listen to a prog album for atleast 2 weeks before reviewing it.
should i buy it?
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Nicko's Nose
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01.07.2009 - 19:21Rating: 9
Of course. It's their best album since Six Degrees imo.
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Written by Powerslavex on 01.07.2009 at 11:09
should i buy it?
As always, I'd say: listen to it first.
But I do consider that it's their best since 6 Degrees, because From Train Of Thought onwards they just were uninspired.
And now now it seems the inspiration (the magic?) is here again.
However, it does have their 2000's sound, so don't look for another Images & Words or Awake in there...
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Passenger Lost To Apathy
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02.07.2009 - 02:32Rating: 10
One question, for the connoisseurs: don't you all think The Best Of Times is the most Rush-sounding track Dream Theater have ever come up with? One more reason why it's awesome, obviously, but I feel like putting Permanent Waves on my CD player right after it ends
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Nicko's Nose
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02.07.2009 - 03:07Rating: 9
Yeah, the verses sound a lot like Rush, but I think Status Seeker is their most Rush-sounding song.
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Introspekrieg Totemic Lust ElitePosts: 2749 |
Written by Ag Fox on 01.07.2009 at 01:20
The new Riverside totally beats this imo
I was trying to get into Black Clouds and Silver Linings, but I've been really distracted from it.
Once that Riverside was released I can't take it out of the CD player and haven't listened to much else...
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Quinaitor
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02.07.2009 - 04:55Rating: 10
I'll give a good review in 2 or 3 weeks... details on every song... but on my three times listening to this album it actually does NOT sound like every other album... It's a lot darker... if you get out wither you have a really agressive album with DAMNED GOOD LYRICS... wft is wrong with that miserable 6 on lyrics?... =S... wft about The Shattered Fortress?... jus my opinion...
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Fat & Sassy! ElitePosts: 3857 |
02.07.2009 - 06:32Rating: 6
Written by Quinaitor on 02.07.2009 at 04:55
wft is wrong with that miserable 6 on lyrics?...
Songwriting isn't just about lyrics. It's mostly about the overall composition of the songs on the album.
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MetalMac
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02.07.2009 - 06:49Rating: 10
My top DT albums:
1. Images and Words
2. Black Clouds & Silver Linings
3. Metro. Pt. 2
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Quinaitor
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02.07.2009 - 10:02Rating: 10
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 02.07.2009 at 06:32
Songwriting isn't just about lyrics. It's mostly about the overall composition of the songs on the album.
Certainly... but still... the composition of the lyrics of DT are fitted into the songs... this has been their modus operantis since Falling Into Infinity... so... songwriting on this method is all about lyrics dude =)
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Fat & Sassy! ElitePosts: 3857 |
02.07.2009 - 10:41Rating: 6
Written by Quinaitor on 02.07.2009 at 10:02
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 02.07.2009 at 06:32
Songwriting isn't just about lyrics. It's mostly about the overall composition of the songs on the album.
Certainly... but still... the composition of the lyrics of DT are fitted into the songs... this has been their modus operantis since Falling Into Infinity... so... songwriting on this method is all about lyrics dude =)
I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at, because I've listened to the whole album without the vocal tracks... and I think it's quite obvious that the vocal track was one of the last things taken into account when arranging the songs. Lyrics is one aspect of vocal composition, right? And vocals are one piece of song composition, no?
I agree, the vocals fit very nicely with the music, but if you read over the review, he seems to be more concerned with Petrucci and Ruddess's floaty, some-what uninteresting parts during the instrumental parts. I would guess that plays a big part in why he gave the song writing a 6...
("...and unfortunately same patchwork of bridges and chorus with way too many passages of pure technical display that are close to ruining the whole thing.")
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Ag Fox Angel No More ElitePosts: 4774 |
02.07.2009 - 13:07Rating: 6
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Written by Introspekrieg on 02.07.2009 at 03:46
Written by Ag Fox on 01.07.2009 at 01:20
The new Riverside totally beats this imo
I was trying to get into Black Clouds and Silver Linings, but I've been really distracted from it.
Once that Riverside was released I can't take it out of the CD player and haven't listened to much else...
exactly I can't stop listening to "Anno Domini High Definition" as well. It's not I don't like Prog, but I don't want to force myself to like an album if I don't find it captivating. Yeah, sure they are really technical musicians and I appreciate it, but there are ways to be technical and captivating at the same time. My personal thoughts anyway
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02.07.2009 - 19:18Rating: 10
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The album is getting better and better with every listen. Especially The count of Tuscany is a great song. Important thing here: regardless of comparison to other DT albums, the music is very good and enjoyable.
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The 5th listen - I'm counting, it's ridiculous I know - well I was wrong, the album is growing on me, I like it more and more. Still, I dislike Portnoy's vocals on the first song, he should stick to his drumming, nothing to complain there.
I've got the 3 cds album, so I hope I make time today for the covers and the instrumentals.
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The album is great, but i agree that the lyrics could be a little better
I was also disapointed to find that the instrumental mixes cut out more than just the vocals, both Rudess and Petrucci solos are cut too so it sounds really empty. Dammit.
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Quinaitor
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02.07.2009 - 20:28Rating: 10
To Fat and Sassy...
I said that the lyrics are made to fit into the song!! I mean... they make the instruments... then they fit the lyrics into the song... inverse method than the traditional one...
To JohnDoe...
I also got the 3cd =D... the covers are AWESOME!!!
To DreamingDesire...
I still don't understand what is the problem with lyrics =S
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Well, I've just finished listening to all 3 cds - album-covers-instrumental mixes. The covers are nice, special mentions for Queen's cover (unexpectedly great, for me at least) and the Dixie Dregs cover (for those who don't know, Steve Morse was the guitarist of Dixie Dregs).
The instrumental mixes are OK, enjoyable.
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Morphis
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02.07.2009 - 23:36Rating: 7
I found the album enjoyable. Liked very mutch the instrumental CD.
Saw them live last month, they just played Rite of Passage from this new album and sound quite good.
I see this album as a 3 CD album so overall i think 7.5 is a fair rating.
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HyperDrifter
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I dont really know, theres something about the lyrics that aren't quite right but im not sure what xD
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x-avier
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It's hard to rate a Dream Theater album. Everyone will have their own perspective of the new sound that DT is giving us, but off course like fans like me is hard to understand why they don't sound like awake or I&W or SFAM? they changed so much, this album has so many TOOL PANTERA OPETH and some of DT finest moments. But overall as said in the comment is the same 2000's new DT music direction. I still think that since Kevin Moore left the band DT lost the soul of the music the feeling that we used to feel. I hope some day they will come back to that, I still like this heaviest sound that they are creating but still their old stuff is unique.
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Fat & Sassy! ElitePosts: 3857 |
03.07.2009 - 06:53Rating: 6
Written by HyperDrifter on 03.07.2009 at 00:26
I dont really know, theres something about the lyrics that aren't quite right but im not sure what xD
Hmm... could this be it?
"Your spirit led my life each day
My heart is bleeding bad
But I'll be okay"
These lines make me cringe each time I hear it.
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kaos666
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Funny the score about the songwriting, I think that is quite appropriate as even one of the songs themselves on the album is about struggle to write songs
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BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
03.07.2009 - 19:03Rating: 9
People need to get over the fact that Images and Words, Awake, When Dream & Day Unite and Metropolis part II were already made. They're not gona be made again.
I'm not even speaking about the new album. It's just that this "bring it back syndrome" is unrealistic.
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03.07.2009 - 23:33Rating: 6
Written by BloodTears on 03.07.2009 at 19:03
People need to get over the fact that Images and Words, Awake, When Dream & Day Unite and Metropolis part II were already made. They're not gona be made again.
I'm not even speaking about the new album. It's just that this "bring it back syndrome" is unrealistic.
Good point, but I think that some fans (including myself) want the opposite. Maybe see the band go in a new direction. I seriously don't think they will, because they are clearly enjoying making the music they are putting out.
Personally, I'm starting to get tired of their current sound. That doesn't, by any means, mean that I don't like them anymore. Their music's just getting a bit stale to me.
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BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
04.07.2009 - 00:12Rating: 9
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 03.07.2009 at 23:33
Written by BloodTears on 03.07.2009 at 19:03
People need to get over the fact that Images and Words, Awake, When Dream & Day Unite and Metropolis part II were already made. They're not gona be made again.
I'm not even speaking about the new album. It's just that this "bring it back syndrome" is unrealistic.
Good point, but I think that some fans (including myself) want the opposite. Maybe see the band go in a new direction. I seriously don't think they will, because they are clearly enjoying making the music they are putting out.
Personally, I'm starting to get tired of their current sound. That doesn't, by any means, mean that I don't like them anymore. Their music's just getting a bit stale to me.
I understand you. I don't feel like you but I know where you're coming from. I see that you don't have the "bring it back syndrome" lol
I'm not seeing a big change ahead right now, but I'm not closing any doors.
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Quinaitor
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04.07.2009 - 02:55Rating: 10
Written by BloodTears on 04.07.2009 at 00:12
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 03.07.2009 at 23:33
Written by BloodTears on 03.07.2009 at 19:03
People need to get over the fact that Images and Words, Awake, When Dream & Day Unite and Metropolis part II were already made. They're not gona be made again.
I'm not even speaking about the new album. It's just that this "bring it back syndrome" is unrealistic.
Good point, but I think that some fans (including myself) want the opposite. Maybe see the band go in a new direction. I seriously don't think they will, because they are clearly enjoying making the music they are putting out.
Personally, I'm starting to get tired of their current sound. That doesn't, by any means, mean that I don't like them anymore. Their music's just getting a bit stale to me.
I understand you. I don't feel like you but I know where you're coming from. I see that you don't have the "bring it back syndrome" lol
I'm not seeing a big change ahead right now, but I'm not closing any doors.
Erm... i agree with you... Still we are forgetting that DT is a PROGRESSIVE BAND!!! so they do not repeat the pattern of the albums dude... holy shit if you dont like new sound then you are not a fan of DT you are only fan of the albums you liked.. so... make a reflection... and think if you really are into progressive music... or just a few good albums... this is the soul of Progression... ALWAYS CHANGING... EXPERIMENTAL SOUNDS!!! REFRESHING!! not boring repeating =)
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Fat & Sassy! ElitePosts: 3857 |
04.07.2009 - 09:22Rating: 6
Written by BloodTears on 04.07.2009 at 00:12
I'm not seeing a big change ahead right now, but I'm not closing any doors.
Me neither! Dream Theater fans to the death... and "Beyond This Life"!!! >:[ >:[ >:[
Written by Quinaitor on 04.07.2009 at 02:55
... holy shit if you dont like new sound then you are not a fan of DT you are only fan of the albums you liked.. so... make a reflection... and think if you really are into progressive music... or just a few good albums... this is the soul of Progression... ALWAYS CHANGING... EXPERIMENTAL SOUNDS!!! REFRESHING!! not boring repeating =)
I'm not sure if you really thought about what you are saying... but your statement is pretty outrageous.
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Introspekrieg Totemic Lust ElitePosts: 2749 |
So... because they are categorized as a progressive band their music is automatically experimental? The Bebot usage was cool though...
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IronBlackZepp
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06.07.2009 - 08:46Rating: 10
This is a great album guys, I think that all of the band albums are great though. The new DT sound, or the sound thay have had for the last ten years is just as good as their old sound, just more metal. All of the songs here rock, in fact I ended up loving all of the songs. As a whole this is one of the bands best albums, pick it up as soon as possable. Do not listion to this review because it was written to early, this is prog you need to wait a while before you get a clear view of the album as a whole because you might miss things.
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Quinaitor
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06.07.2009 - 21:39Rating: 10
Written by IronBlackZepp on 06.07.2009 at 08:46
This is a great album guys, I think that all of the band albums are great though. The new DT sound, or the sound thay have had for the last ten years is just as good as their old sound, just more metal. All of the songs here rock, in fact I ended up loving all of the songs. As a whole this is one of the bands best albums, pick it up as soon as possable. Do not listion to this review because it was written to early, this is prog you need to wait a while before you get a clear view of the album as a whole because you might miss things.
that absolutely rocked XD
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