BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
25.12.2010 - 12:06Rating: 8
Interesting review.
Curiously enough, Haven and The Mind's I are my least favourite DT albums. Maybe that explains why there wasn't a review for it yet, most people don't seem to like it somehow
Haven and TMI are similar albums to me in the sense that they are not consistently good throughout. I can find in both of these albums really good songs, some of them became classic DT tunes, but other songs are forgettable. I even prefer TMI to Haven because I think there's more quality there, at least that's what I think.
This explains why Haven is the only DT album I haven't bought yet, but I'm sure I will at some point.
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Written by BloodTears on 25.12.2010 at 12:06
Interesting review.
Curiously enough, Haven and The Mind's I are my least favourite DT albums. Maybe that explains why there wasn't a review for it yet, most people don't seem to like it somehow
Haven and TMI are similar albums to me in the sense that they are not consistently good throughout. I can find in both of these albums really good songs, some of them became classic DT tunes, but other songs are forgettable. I even prefer TMI to Haven because I think there's more quality there, at least that's what I think.
This explains why Haven is the only DT album I haven't bought yet, but I'm sure I will at some point.
Yeah, I guess you should do that, coz in my opinion "Haven" is better than "The Mind's I" and "Skydancer" by some distance; even if it's not that edgy, it's still a respectable album on every front.
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Now im curious about this album, I havnt checked it out yet
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Written by Aetherius on 28.12.2010 at 13:57
Now im curious about this album, I havnt checked it out yet
Yes, please DO check it out. It's really good. Just don't have any prior expectations related to their other releases, and I'm sure you'll like it
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Danny Thomas
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25.01.2011 - 07:03Rating: 10
I actually feel haven is a deep album. i didnt even appreciate it at first. i thought it bland compared to the others i had at the time. but after since collecting the entire discography, and going back and listening to it again and again, it holds a certain power. i have 1 rule when it comes to dark tranquillity: i will only listen to them at night. each album has tis own feel, and tells its own story to me. And haven grew on me more and more as time went on. so i disagree that its a good introduction to the band, i would suggest you go back and listen to this one after you are already a fan and have listened to the other albums.
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Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 07:03
I actually feel haven is a deep album. i didnt even appreciate it at first. i thought it bland compared to the others i had at the time. but after since collecting the entire discography, and going back and listening to it again and again, it holds a certain power. i have 1 rule when it comes to dark tranquillity: i will only listen to them at night. each album has tis own feel, and tells its own story to me. And haven grew on me more and more as time went on. so i disagree that its a good introduction to the band, i would suggest you go back and listen to this one after you are already a fan and have listened to the other albums.
Check my favourite bands list, DT is at the top. What made you say that I haven't listened to their other albums? To say that I need to be a fan to fully grasp this album is pretty illogical to say the least, and only until I've got a rock-solid impression on an album do I dare to write a review. I feel that Haven is by far the most accessible album they've ever made, and so I stand by my opinion that Haven is an excellent introduction to Dark Tranquillity.
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Danny Thomas
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25.01.2011 - 22:49Rating: 10
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Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 07:03
I actually feel haven is a deep album. i didnt even appreciate it at first. i thought it bland compared to the others i had at the time. but after since collecting the entire discography, and going back and listening to it again and again, it holds a certain power. i have 1 rule when it comes to dark tranquillity: i will only listen to them at night. each album has tis own feel, and tells its own story to me. And haven grew on me more and more as time went on. so i disagree that its a good introduction to the band, i would suggest you go back and listen to this one after you are already a fan and have listened to the other albums.
Check my favourite bands list, DT is at the top. What made you say that I haven't listened to their other albums? To say that I need to be a fan to fully grasp this album is pretty illogical to say the least, and only until I've got a rock-solid impression on an album do I dare to write a review. I feel that Haven is by far the most accessible album they've ever made, and so I stand by my opinion that Haven is an excellent introduction to Dark Tranquillity.
no no i didn't say you haven't listened to all their albums. what i thought i typed at least was that if you(not you specifically, but a person in general) have listened to all of their albums, it allows you to appreciate haven more imo. so what i was implying was i became a bigger fan of this album after i had listened to their whole discography thoroughly. my bad for the misunderstanding, i wasnt talking about you . and i agree with you as an album on its own it is very good, but after i became a huge fan of the band and went back and listened to it a year later, i had a greater appreciation for it, which was the point i was trying to get across. sorry for the misunderstanding
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Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 22:49
Written by [user id=109200] on 25.01.2011 at 11:55
Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 07:03
I actually feel haven is a deep album. i didnt even appreciate it at first. i thought it bland compared to the others i had at the time. but after since collecting the entire discography, and going back and listening to it again and again, it holds a certain power. i have 1 rule when it comes to dark tranquillity: i will only listen to them at night. each album has tis own feel, and tells its own story to me. And haven grew on me more and more as time went on. so i disagree that its a good introduction to the band, i would suggest you go back and listen to this one after you are already a fan and have listened to the other albums.
Check my favourite bands list, DT is at the top. What made you say that I haven't listened to their other albums? To say that I need to be a fan to fully grasp this album is pretty illogical to say the least, and only until I've got a rock-solid impression on an album do I dare to write a review. I feel that Haven is by far the most accessible album they've ever made, and so I stand by my opinion that Haven is an excellent introduction to Dark Tranquillity.
no no i didn't say you haven't listened to all their albums. what i thought i typed at least was that if you(not you specifically, but a person in general) have listened to all of their albums, it allows you to appreciate haven more imo. so what i was implying was i became a bigger fan of this album after i had listened to their whole discography thoroughly. my bad for the misunderstanding, i wasnt talking about you . and i agree with you as an album on its own it is very good, but after i became a huge fan of the band and went back and listened to it a year later, i had a greater appreciation for it, which was the point i was trying to get across. sorry for the misunderstanding
Hey, no worries man.
Well, we can both agree on one thing: Haven is definitely a very good release and deserves more than it gets. I apologize if I came across a little aggressive.
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Darkside Momo Retired ElitePosts: 9089 |
Nice review!
I just want to say that, imo, some few songs do stand out, "Not Built To Last" in particular.
Written by BloodTears on 25.12.2010 at 12:06
Interesting review.
Curiously enough, Haven and The Mind's I are my least favourite DT albums. Maybe that explains why there wasn't a review for it yet, most people don't seem to like it somehow
Haven and TMI are similar albums to me in the sense that they are not consistently good throughout. I can find in both of these albums really good songs, some of them became classic DT tunes, but other songs are forgettable. I even prefer TMI to Haven because I think there's more quality there, at least that's what I think.
I agree that these two are their weakest, but as I discovered DT with this album when it was released, I still prefer it to TMI (even if, sure "Hedon" and "Insanity's Crescendo" are awesome)
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Danny Thomas
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25.01.2011 - 23:22Rating: 10
Written by [user id=109200] on 25.01.2011 at 22:57
Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 22:49
Written by [user id=109200] on 25.01.2011 at 11:55
Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 07:03
I actually feel haven is a deep album. i didnt even appreciate it at first. i thought it bland compared to the others i had at the time. but after since collecting the entire discography, and going back and listening to it again and again, it holds a certain power. i have 1 rule when it comes to dark tranquillity: i will only listen to them at night. each album has tis own feel, and tells its own story to me. And haven grew on me more and more as time went on. so i disagree that its a good introduction to the band, i would suggest you go back and listen to this one after you are already a fan and have listened to the other albums.
Check my favourite bands list, DT is at the top. What made you say that I haven't listened to their other albums? To say that I need to be a fan to fully grasp this album is pretty illogical to say the least, and only until I've got a rock-solid impression on an album do I dare to write a review. I feel that Haven is by far the most accessible album they've ever made, and so I stand by my opinion that Haven is an excellent introduction to Dark Tranquillity.
no no i didn't say you haven't listened to all their albums. what i thought i typed at least was that if you(not you specifically, but a person in general) have listened to all of their albums, it allows you to appreciate haven more imo. so what i was implying was i became a bigger fan of this album after i had listened to their whole discography thoroughly. my bad for the misunderstanding, i wasnt talking about you . and i agree with you as an album on its own it is very good, but after i became a huge fan of the band and went back and listened to it a year later, i had a greater appreciation for it, which was the point i was trying to get across. sorry for the misunderstanding
Hey, no worries man.
Well, we can both agree on one thing: Haven is definitely a very good release and deserves more than it gets. I apologize if I came across a little aggressive.
oh it does, i actually went back and listen to the whole album last night after reading your review, and enjoyed it a lot. how would you rank their albums in order of your favorite to least favorite. i think character is actually my personal favorite.
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Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 23:22
Written by [user id=109200] on 25.01.2011 at 22:57
Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 22:49
Written by [user id=109200] on 25.01.2011 at 11:55
Written by Danny Thomas on 25.01.2011 at 07:03
I actually feel haven is a deep album. i didnt even appreciate it at first. i thought it bland compared to the others i had at the time. but after since collecting the entire discography, and going back and listening to it again and again, it holds a certain power. i have 1 rule when it comes to dark tranquillity: i will only listen to them at night. each album has tis own feel, and tells its own story to me. And haven grew on me more and more as time went on. so i disagree that its a good introduction to the band, i would suggest you go back and listen to this one after you are already a fan and have listened to the other albums.
Check my favourite bands list, DT is at the top. What made you say that I haven't listened to their other albums? To say that I need to be a fan to fully grasp this album is pretty illogical to say the least, and only until I've got a rock-solid impression on an album do I dare to write a review. I feel that Haven is by far the most accessible album they've ever made, and so I stand by my opinion that Haven is an excellent introduction to Dark Tranquillity.
no no i didn't say you haven't listened to all their albums. what i thought i typed at least was that if you(not you specifically, but a person in general) have listened to all of their albums, it allows you to appreciate haven more imo. so what i was implying was i became a bigger fan of this album after i had listened to their whole discography thoroughly. my bad for the misunderstanding, i wasnt talking about you . and i agree with you as an album on its own it is very good, but after i became a huge fan of the band and went back and listened to it a year later, i had a greater appreciation for it, which was the point i was trying to get across. sorry for the misunderstanding
Hey, no worries man.
Well, we can both agree on one thing: Haven is definitely a very good release and deserves more than it gets. I apologize if I came across a little aggressive.
oh it does, i actually went back and listen to the whole album last night after reading your review, and enjoyed it a lot. how would you rank their albums in order of your favorite to least favorite. i think character is actually my personal favorite.
I actually have a list about my favourite DT albums. You can check that out.
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Written by Darkside Momo on 25.01.2011 at 23:08
Nice review!
I just want to say that, imo, some few songs do stand out, "Not Built To Last" in particular.
Written by BloodTears on 25.12.2010 at 12:06
Interesting review.
Curiously enough, Haven and The Mind's I are my least favourite DT albums. Maybe that explains why there wasn't a review for it yet, most people don't seem to like it somehow
Haven and TMI are similar albums to me in the sense that they are not consistently good throughout. I can find in both of these albums really good songs, some of them became classic DT tunes, but other songs are forgettable. I even prefer TMI to Haven because I think there's more quality there, at least that's what I think.
I agree that these two are their weakest, but as I discovered DT with this album when it was released, I still prefer it to TMI (even if, sure "Hedon" and "Insanity's Crescendo" are awesome)
The definition of "weak" in Dark Tranquillity dictionary is actually how less awesome an album is.
I also agree that these albums are their "weakest" but compared to most releases by other bands, it's still formidable.
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Written by [user id=109200] on 26.01.2011 at 10:02
The definition of "weak" in Dark Tranquillity dictionary is actually how less awesome an album is.
I also agree that these albums are their "weakest" but compared to most releases by other bands, it's still formidable.
We agree.
But we're both DT fanboys, aren't we?
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Milena gloom cookie StaffPosts: 4603 |
11.04.2011 - 09:50Rating: 9
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I don't think this has a lack of bite. The first three songs, The Same and Rundown are probably among my fave DT tracks.
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This album belongs to my all time favorites among-st DT discography. Half of the songs are total highlights. 10/10
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MeloDeathViking
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11.04.2012 - 17:48Rating: 9
Emptier Still has become one of my favorite DT songs. The clean vocals are simply amazing, so much emotion.
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-DC-002- Mastercommander
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I havent listened to DT in a blue moon, hell, make that two blue moons. Still have respec' for them though and I remember liking the shit out of most of their albums. On Haven I just remember the first 4 or so songs being strong enough to hold up the entire album. Looking back some of the songs, albeit enjoyable to a DT fan, could be considered weak points.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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I like that part about wow factor, non of modern bands and after mid 90's has that wow factor, non sonsg stands out so much as they did before, its sad actually
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Grey_Dandelion
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21.01.2024 - 20:44Rating: 10
All these years i find hard to understand the mediocre rating of this album! Probably my favorite of DT
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christosdd
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22.11.2024 - 07:54Rating: 7
A more keyboard driven DT album. Not build to last & the same are amazing songs, it doesnt happen with the majority of the rest, some are quite boring and uninspired.
descent album, they have better
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