CobiWan1993 Secundum Filium
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15.07.2014 - 11:28Rating: 6
Good review, I agree with much of what's said here. The production is definitely crap and the band sounds tired, though they managed to make a few highlights for me.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Pretty unbiased review and I find the rating quite fiting. This ain't the worse Priest album, with a better production it would've sparked an 8 even though instrumental wise and vocal wise, they are no longer in their prime time.
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Sword_Chant
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15.07.2014 - 14:44Rating: 6
Great review! Agree with all those points, though I would say Halford wasn't all that sensible with his vocals... particularly in 'Halls Of Valhalla' towards the end he goes for the really high pitched scream, that really hurt my ears on first listen. I thought the same with 'Battle Cry', it's evident he struggles to hit those higher notes. The quality of the songs are poor enough so I thought the really high pitched vocals ruined a few of the songs completely.
I felt March Of The Damned was the best song because the vocals weren't so forced like other tracks, for that reason he hit the notes better and overall turns out to be quite a nice JP track. The rest is really average Priest though.
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Malignar
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I have no idea why the production is so bad. The guitars sound terrible. It definitely isn't a bad album, just kind of tired and boring.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Well they don't sound as bad as Christopher Lee.
But damn do they sound old.
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quirin
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Thanks for this review. Your findings do not come as a surprise to me, and I fear them accurate.
Last time I saw them live (Nostradamus era), they told the crowd that they'd quit... And by seeing Halford resting on a fake throne in between songs, I figured it was the right decision. Well after all it's their call, but apparently they should better have stuck to that first idea.
So you didn't enjoy Nostradamus then? Fair enough, but it sounded to me as a possible 'fresh' start and seemed to open unexpected doors to the conceptual side. Anyway, it's not about Nostradamus here, so let's just say I'm glad you spent your time exploring this dispensable album.
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Orangutoad Low-life douche
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You obviously like the album slightly more than I do, and gave it a little higher score than I would have, but I agree with most of it. I get too emotional when hearing a band I love as much as Priest produce something as mediocre and tired as this, so I'm definitely not the right person to ask about it. I will get overly dramatic about it, as I have in other posts. However, I feel this is a fair and honest review from someone who can keep calm about it. Good work. I like your reviews.
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5923 |
15.07.2014 - 22:49Rating: 6
Written by quirin on 15.07.2014 at 19:56
So you didn't enjoy Nostradamus then? Fair enough, but it sounded to me as a possible 'fresh' start and seemed to open unexpected doors to the conceptual side.
Overall I enjoyed Nostradamus, but it should have been half as long and utilized that sound more effectively. It wasn't a bad album per se, but I don't think the experiment paid off as well as it could have, and it isn't really the sort of thing I'd want to hear from Judas Priest.
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satans nuts
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Spot on review. I do fear that they set the bar sooo high with painkiller that everything else gets hidden in its towering shadow!!!
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Get_thrashed
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15.07.2014 - 23:38Rating: 7
I was really trying to make it sound better to myself but can't help it but notice that I'm really not enjoying it much, then I put some old Judas priest and covered the stains by remembering how awesome this band will always be to me.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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Painkiller is a very good album, but it definitely isn't Priest's best work. That's their stuff from the mid-70's.
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ScreamingSteelUS Editor-in-Chief AdminPosts: 5923 |
16.07.2014 - 01:10Rating: 6
Written by Orangutoad on 15.07.2014 at 21:44
You obviously like the album slightly more than I do, and gave it a little higher score than I would have, but I agree with most of it. I get too emotional when hearing a band I love as much as Priest produce something as mediocre and tired as this, so I'm definitely not the right person to ask about it. I will get overly dramatic about it, as I have in other posts. However, I feel this is a fair and honest review from someone who can keep calm about it. Good work. I like your reviews.
Thank you!
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by satans nuts on 15.07.2014 at 23:15
...I do fear that they set the bar sooo high with painkiller...
Painkiller is only good when compared to the albums just before that one was released but cmpared to f.e. Sad Wings and Sin After Sin it was a pretty weak effort.
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Orangutoad Low-life douche
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Written by deadone on 16.07.2014 at 03:03
Written by Angelic Storm on 15.07.2014 at 23:38
...it definitely isn't Priest's best work. That's their stuff from the mid-70's.
I'm not a Priest fan by any stretch of the imagination but I agree 100% with this. They sounded their most original and most creative in the period 1976-78. There's some seriously good stuff back then and very innovative. The sound was also really nice for the most part - there's a real richness to it similar to what you'd find on Queen or Rainbow albums of the era.
I always find it interesting how the more they "aped" popular trends in the 1980s, the more people appreciated them.
I actually agree with this, especially concerning their 80's work, and although I still loved it...it was indeed "trendy 80's hard rock." However, I feel they were born again hard with Painkiller. That album is when they rose above the rest and brought back that late 70's Priest originality into a new era of harder, faster speed metal. It was Priest pissed off and on a rampage after being dragged into court over a bunch of BS, and it's still one of the few metal albums that are a perfect 10 in my book.
Painkiller raised the bar incredibly high and everything they've done since then just pales in comparison. Angel of Retribution was decent, but still nowhere near the badassery of Painkiller.
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Murder
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Written by Angelic Storm on 15.07.2014 at 23:38
Painkiller is a very good album, but it definitely isn't Priest's best work. That's their stuff from the mid-70's.
Stained Class >>>> all the other albums, of course IMHO and because that is my favorite Judas Priest album.
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Written by Murder on 16.07.2014 at 20:19
Written by Angelic Storm on 15.07.2014 at 23:38
Painkiller is a very good album, but it definitely isn't Priest's best work. That's their stuff from the mid-70's.
Stained Class >>>> all the other albums, of course IMHO and because that is my favorite Judas Priest album.
I disagree. Imo Painkiller is their best. I love all of their previous albums with the exception of Nostrodamus. I'm a fan but like i said. I think age is ruining an amazing reputation.
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Zap
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I am extremely biased when it comes to Priest, but I fear even I won't enjoy this one and I just keep postponing listening to it...
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Ilham Giant robot
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18.07.2014 - 18:59Rating: 4
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Written by Zap on 18.07.2014 at 18:39
I am extremely biased when it comes to Priest, but I fear even I won't enjoy this one and I just keep postponing listening to it...
No need to postpone, it won't take long to understand what it's worth. Do it now, get it out of your way.
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Orion79
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18.07.2014 - 21:49Rating: 5
7 is a very high score. 5/10 IMO
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Zap
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Written by Ilham on 18.07.2014 at 18:59
Written by Zap on 18.07.2014 at 18:39
I am extremely biased when it comes to Priest, but I fear even I won't enjoy this one and I just keep postponing listening to it...
No need to postpone, it won't take long to understand what it's worth. Do it now, get it out of your way.
You're right...
Which is why I listened to it. And yes, the band sounds old. And I guess this album would have sounded better if it was recorded by a young Judas Priest. Overall though, even a youthful, more energetic band couldn't make it sound great; I feel like the best songs here are on par with some of the filler on their better albums.
And this time the part of me that forces me to like everything Judas Priest puts out isn't even doing an effort. Maybe it's the lack of KK.
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Floflo79
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30.07.2014 - 14:24Rating: 8
This album is pretty good. I don't know why people says that it's bad. "Battle Cry" is a really great song, the new guitarist is very good and the album cover is badass as hell !
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Floflo79 on 30.07.2014 at 14:24 I don't know why people says that it's bad.
If you don't know why people say it's bad then you must not read a lot of reviews or comments online. There are plenty of reasons why people dislike this - songwriting, production, vocals, etc.
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Floflo79
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31.07.2014 - 09:19Rating: 8
I know that some people says that the production, vocals, songwriting... are bad. I said that I didn't know why people says that it's bad because I didn't understand it, not because I didn't know it.
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DeathRay68
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Agree. I have to say that Halls Of Valhalla, Sword Of Damocles, and Battle Cry have definitely grown on me... However, as someone else said, after listening to these I find myself going back to the older albums of my Priest collection such as Screaming For Vengeance and Defenders Of The Faith to hear this band pummel in their prime. The guitar solo on Ram It Down still blows me away, and leaves me wondering why that song didn't make it on Guitar Hero...
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7345 |
I've been listening to this lately, in anticipation of the new album. Most songs are very good, with 2 or 3 being excellent and another 2 or 3 fillers. Halford, although not in his prime anymore, still kicks the ass of most metal vocalists around. However, the production is so utterly and embarrassingly dreadful that it brings down the final result immensely. I can't find words to describe how disappointing it is for one of the greatest heavy metal bands of all time to have this disgraceful production in 2014. I mourn the money I spent to buy a physical copy of this, since the mp3 files sound the same: total shit.
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Written by nikarg on 08.08.2017 at 17:15
I've been listening to this lately, in anticipation of the new album. Most songs are very good, with 2 or 3 being excellent and another 2 or 3 fillers. Halford, although not in his prime anymore, still kicks the ass of most metal vocalists around. However, the production is so utterly and embarrassingly dreadful that it brings down the final result immensely. I can't find words to describe how disappointing it is for one of the greatest heavy metal bands of all time to have this disgraceful production in 2014. I mourn the money I spent to buy a physical copy of this, since the mp3 files sound the same: total shit.
c mon he still is in shape, better as many old timers and middle ages
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Written by Bad English on 05.10.2017 at 01:03
Written by nikarg on 08.08.2017 at 17:15
I've been listening to this lately, in anticipation of the new album. Most songs are very good, with 2 or 3 being excellent and another 2 or 3 fillers. Halford, although not in his prime anymore, still kicks the ass of most metal vocalists around. However, the production is so utterly and embarrassingly dreadful that it brings down the final result immensely. I can't find words to describe how disappointing it is for one of the greatest heavy metal bands of all time to have this disgraceful production in 2014. I mourn the money I spent to buy a physical copy of this, since the mp3 files sound the same: total shit.
c mon he still is in shape, better as many old timers and middle ages
This is exactly what I said ("still kicks the ass of most metal vocalists around").
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Written by nikarg on 05.10.2017 at 12:00
Written by Bad English on 05.10.2017 at 01:03
Written by nikarg on 08.08.2017 at 17:15
Halford, although not in his prime anymore, still kicks the ass of most metal vocalists around.
c mon he still is in shape, better as many old timers and middle ages
This is exactly what I said ("still kicks the ass of most metal vocalists around").
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