Zap
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You had me at "Darkspace gone death metal."
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Zap on 10.12.2014 at 17:39
You had me at "Darkspace gone death metal."
I think it's a pretty fair assessment, really great composition going on here
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I listened to it and was very impressed. Definitely something along the lines of "Darkspace death metal". Nice find and nice review, Che!
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Written by Zap on 10.12.2014 at 17:39
You had me at "Darkspace gone death metal."
This. Definitely going to check this out. Awesome review.
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Sounds like something I'd enjoy.
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Not bad. Probably one of the few bands you could genuinely call atmospheric death metal. Feels a little unrefined, the vocals are a bit iffy and that artwork is an eyesore but I reckon their sophomore album could be a serious force in death metal given the potential here.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by [user id=4365] on 10.12.2014 at 19:03
Not bad. Probably one of the few bands you could genuinely call atmospheric death metal. Feels a little unrefined, the vocals are a bit iffy and that artwork is an eyesore but I reckon their sophomore album could be a serious force in death metal given the potential here.
Yeah, I might've gone a little too high here with scoring here, but I do think it's fair to say this is at least 8-9 material. The artwork looks more esoteric/magic-y than spacey to me, and I wish there were more of those psychy guitar leads. Some room for improvement definitely, but I wouldn't really say by that big a margin.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 10.12.2014 at 19:05
Yeah, I might've gone a little too high here with scoring here, but I do think it's fair to say this is at least 8-9 material. The artwork looks more esoteric/magic-y than spacey to me, and I wish there were more of those psychy guitar leads. Some room for improvement definitely, but I wouldn't really say by that big a margin.
For me it's just some levels and production issues really. I'm really anal about production and sound these days. I've seen bands go from competent to amazing in one fell swoop though, like Abyssal did so I'll keep an eye out for future releases.
The artwork could be fine if it wasn't just so low-res, with the (rather ugly) logo and album title just plonked on top.
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Zap
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Listened to some songs, and I agree with Joe; it feels unrefined. I think there's lots of room for improvement. As you said, more of those psychy guitar leads would be great. I also think the vocals could be a lot better (and probably also deeper in the mix) and the drum machine should either sound more like an actual drum or more like a drum machine, not this trying-to-sound-like-a-drumset-but-clearly-not-the-real-thing. I'm gonna finish the album though, and I do think it has a lot of potential. Looking forward to album 2.
You were right about it being "Darkspace gone death metal" though, that's definitely an accurate description.
And how the fuck am I supposed to pronounce that name??!!
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Zap on 10.12.2014 at 19:17
And how the fuck am I supposed to pronounce that name??!!
I think the S is silent, I've just been saying it "Zoo-peer-ee-on"
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Written by [user id=4365] on 10.12.2014 at 19:09
The artwork could be fine if it wasn't just so low-res, with the (rather ugly) logo and album title just plonked on top.
Yeah, looks a lot like your cliché black metal logo. The project is listed on MA as death metal/black metal, this one just sounds like atmospheric death to me, but there are still some previous demos and EPs I haven't looked at yet. Maybe some of the earlier material was more BM-ish
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 10.12.2014 at 19:34
Written by [user id=4365] on 10.12.2014 at 19:09
The artwork could be fine if it wasn't just so low-res, with the (rather ugly) logo and album title just plonked on top.
Yeah, looks a lot like your cliché black metal logo. The project is listed on MA as death metal/black metal, this one just sounds like atmospheric death to me, but there are still some previous demos and EPs I haven't looked at yet. Maybe some of the earlier material was more BM-ish
Haven't heard this yet, but never trust MA. They list Grave Miasma as black/death.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.12.2014 at 19:41
Haven't heard this yet, but never trust MA. They list Grave Miasma as black/death.
Yeah, I was skeptical myself, but again, that logo does give off something of a BM aesthetic, so I don't know. Off to the demos I go, I guess
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11.12.2014 - 07:44Rating: 8
That was rather nice, but I would not recommend viewing that awful tiled Bandcamp background in a resolution higher than 1080. Thanks for the review, this album is definitely worth throwing a few dollars at.
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If being original in Death Metal these days means making hipster ambient black metal I'm switching to k-pop, it will be the most original Death Metal stuff in centuries. If you like it more power to you but not for me, this is a nutmeg bad trip.
You could review Harold and Kumar as a psychological thriller and it would be indeed very "original" compared to it's contemporaries.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by virvum on 11.12.2014 at 21:30
If being original in Death Metal these days means making hipster ambient black metal I'm switching to k-pop, it will be the most original Death Metal stuff in centuries.
I really hate how trying something creative within typically rigid genres these days is called "hipster" or "indie," like it's a degrading term. Here's a hint, not everybody trying out something more original is an edgy, pretentious dumbass.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 11.12.2014 at 21:49
Written by virvum on 11.12.2014 at 21:30
If being original in Death Metal these days means making hipster ambient black metal I'm switching to k-pop, it will be the most original Death Metal stuff in centuries.
I really hate how trying something creative within typically rigid genres these days is called "hipster" or "indie," like it's a degrading time. Here's a hint, not everybody trying out something more original is an edgy, pretentious dumbass.
I have no problem with the band doing their thing. It's the review itself that I find misleading in it's premise.
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Written by virvum on 11.12.2014 at 22:12
I have no problem with the band doing their thing. It's the review itself that I find misleading in it's premise.
Well that seems to be your problem more so than the fault of the review itself. Please remember that reviews are at the end of the day, opinions, so not to be taken as 100% fact. Having said that, however, I would like to believe that the statement that there has been a spike of creativity in death metal in recent years is pretty hard to argue against. Have you checked out the recent albums by the band names I've mentioned? All fairly innovative and interesting interpretations of the subgenre while at the same time remaining true to their roots. Yes, this is all at the end of the day subjective interpretation, but based upon some pretty grounded facts I would say.
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Written by Auntie Sahar on 11.12.2014 at 23:13
Well that seems to be your problem more so than the fault of the review itself. Please remember that reviews are at the end of the day, opinions, so not to be taken as 100% fact. Having said that, however, I would like to believe that the statement that there has been a spike of creativity in death metal in recent years is pretty hard to argue against. Have you checked out the recent albums by the band names I've mentioned? All fairly innovative and interesting interpretations of the subgenre while at the same time remaining true to their roots. Yes, this is all at the end of the day subjective interpretation, but based upon some pretty grounded facts I would say.
If I get this right I could write a solo flute album, slap a death metal sticker on it and have reviewers spew stuff like:
"This death metal release is like nothing you've ever heard before"
"Finally a death metal act that dares to go against the grain"
"A breath of fresh air that doesn't rely blindly on the clichés of death metal we're tired of hearing"
Which are all true in a sense but I think fans of the genre will be disappointed when they expected death metal but hear a dude playing flute alone for an hour.
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I remember talking to you about this kind of thing a while back. No offense but you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder regarding the state of death metal. You seem somewhat defensive of the genre's more traditional nature.
I don't really understand what you're saying. It seems to be red-herring talk from where I'm sitting. Perhaps if you engaged with the modernity of death metal in the past years you'd be able to recognise when an album offers something new.
Fans of the "genre" have way more generic and standard death metal to gorge on than they could ever need. There's really nothing wrong with giving props to bands that actually try something new, whether or not they entirely succeed. There's nothing misleading in this review.
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11.12.2014 - 23:53Rating: 8
Written by virvum on 11.12.2014 at 23:37
If I get this right I could write a solo flute album, slap a death metal sticker on it and have reviewers spew stuff like:
"This death metal release is like nothing you've ever heard before"
"Finally a death metal act that dares to go against the grain"
"A breath of fresh air that doesn't rely blindly on the clichés of death metal we're tired of hearing"
Which are all true in a sense but I think fans of the genre will be disappointed.
You're taking this way out of context. If the album was shit, then the reviewer would have stated so based on his opinion. The reviewer isn't trying to say its good because its original, it just happens to be good and original.
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Auntie Sahar Drone Empress
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Written by virvum on 11.12.2014 at 23:37
If I get this right I could write a solo flute album, slap a death metal sticker on it and have reviewers spew stuff like:
"This death metal release is like nothing you've ever heard before"
"Finally a death metal act that dares to go against the grain"
"A breath of fresh air that doesn't rely blindly on the clichés of death metal we're tired of hearing"
Yeah, I'm gonna stop explaining, you're obviously missing the point.
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Written by MetalDoomMaster on 11.12.2014 at 23:53
You're taking this way out of context. If the album was shit, then the reviewer would have stated so based on his opinion. The reviewer isn't trying to say its good because its original, it just happens to be good and original.
The album can be good I, get that. It can be original too. What I don't get is that it is called death metal when it's not. I feel like someone is telling me that Katie Perry is drone doom.
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12.12.2014 - 00:23Rating: 8
Written by virvum on 12.12.2014 at 00:07
The album can be good I, get that. It can be original too. What I don't get is that it is called death metal when it's not. I feel like someone is telling me that Katie Perry is drone doom.
What would you call it then? I hear quite a lot of death metal
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virvum
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Written by MetalDoomMaster on 12.12.2014 at 00:23
Written by virvum on 12.12.2014 at 00:07
The album can be good I, get that. It can be original too. What I don't get is that it is called death metal when it's not. I feel like someone is telling me that Katie Perry is drone doom.
What would you call it then? I hear quite a lot of death metal
Black Metal would be a good start...
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