Still trying to wrap my head around their music after so many years.

Written by RaduP on 24.11.2021 at 09:58

Still trying to wrap my head around their music after so many years.

yeah, me too.
I don't know if I should give this a chance or not.

Same here. This is the kind of band I obviously don't get. I don't remember enjoying any of their albums. Haven't listened to this one yet though.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed all of their albums and they're probably in my top 20 bands of all time. Doesn't mean that I'm done getting them.

Written by Deadsoulman on 24.11.2021 at 10:26

Same here. This is the kind of band I obviously don't get. I don't remember enjoying any of their albums. Haven't listened to this one yet though.

General opinion around the webs seems to be this is their most accessible album... relative to the context, of course

Written by RaduP on 24.11.2021 at 10:46

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed all of their albums and they're probably in my top 20 bands of all time. Doesn't mean that I'm done getting them.

Sounds like I'll need a week off from college to possibly get into their whole discography. Hey, never stop getting them, keep busy for decades to come!

You're so funny huehue I'll check this out. Loved Coffins on Io. I'm one of the people here with truly avantgarde brains so this should fit, right?

Written by Sand on 24.11.2021 at 11:28

You're so funny huehue I'll check this out. Loved Coffins on Io. I'm one of the people here with truly avantgarde brains so this should fit, right?

Either that, or it'll all sound like pop to you!

Written by Netzach on 24.11.2021 at 11:14


General opinion around the webs seems to be this is their most accessible album... relative to the context, of course

is it more accessible than Coffins On Io?

Written by John_Doe on 24.11.2021 at 12:04

is it more accessible than Coffins On Io?

I wouldn't know, haven't heard that one! Context aside, I'd say this is a fairly straight forward tune:

Written by Netzach on 24.11.2021 at 11:14

Written by Deadsoulman on 24.11.2021 at 10:26

Same here. This is the kind of band I obviously don't get. I don't remember enjoying any of their albums. Haven't listened to this one yet though.

General opinion around the webs seems to be this is their most accessible album... relative to the context, of course

Well, first opinion is: mixed feelings. I found this statement of yours to be very true: "A slightly frustrating listen depending on mood, perhaps, as there are as many parts that simply work as parts that sort of don’t". I actually really enjoyed some bits (like that video above) while others seemed like endless intros to pretty much nowhere. Also, context or not, I wouldn't call this accessible But unlike the person a few posts up, my brain is not really avantgardely wired.

Written by Deadsoulman on 24.11.2021 at 12:11

Well, first opinion is: mixed feelings. I found this statement of yours to be very true: "A slightly frustrating listen depending on mood, perhaps, as there are as many parts that simply work as parts that sort of don’t". I actually really enjoyed some bits (like that video above) while others seemed like endless intros to pretty much nowhere. Also, context or not, I wouldn't call this accessible But unlike the person a few posts up, my brain is not really avantgardely wired.

I enjoy bunches of... "wired" music but can only take so much before I need something I can sing along to. This album often pushed the limits of my patience, but a few times it all seemed to click much better. Fuck if I know what I have to do to recreate that state of mind, hah. I expect it to end up an album I'll replay a bunch of times until ending up with tracks 3, 6, and 7 stuffed away for the future. It's definitely in "acquired taste"-land, I replayed it at least 5 times before coming up with anything useful at all to write about it.

Written by Netzach on 24.11.2021 at 12:09

Written by John_Doe on 24.11.2021 at 12:04

is it more accessible than Coffins On Io?

I wouldn't know, haven't heard that one! Context aside, I'd say this is a fairly straight forward tune:

I liked that, i'm gonna give the album a chance.

This probably is their most accessible album at least to metal fans. Coffins On Io and Plastic House On Base Of Sky might be more accessible to general audience but this is certainly their most most metal album to date, so it could possibly appeal even to those who didn't particulary enjoyed their previous work. I am a big fan of their entire discography, and at this point I think I prefer only Hubardo and Choirs Of The Eye to this one.

Written by Maldone on 24.11.2021 at 15:57

This probably is their most accessible album at least to metal fans. Coffins On Io and Plastic House On Base Of Sky might be more accessible to general audience but this is certainly their most most metal album to date, so it could possibly appeal even to those who didn't particulary enjoyed their previous work. I am a big fan of their entire discography, and at this point I think I prefer only Hubardo and Choirs Of The Eye to this one.

I read that Hubardo was tied with this one for heaviest of theirs. I've only listened to the debut and this one so far, will investigate.

Written by Netzach on 24.11.2021 at 16:31

Written by Maldone on 24.11.2021 at 15:57

This probably is their most accessible album at least to metal fans. Coffins On Io and Plastic House On Base Of Sky might be more accessible to general audience but this is certainly their most most metal album to date, so it could possibly appeal even to those who didn't particulary enjoyed their previous work. I am a big fan of their entire discography, and at this point I think I prefer only Hubardo and Choirs Of The Eye to this one.

I read that Hubardo was tied with this one for heaviest of theirs. I've only listened to the debut and this one so far, will investigate.

This one is definitely their heaviest. I guess you could say Hubardo is on heavier side too, but it's closer in style to debut than to this one.

Written by Maldone on 24.11.2021 at 16:58

Written by Netzach on 24.11.2021 at 16:31

Written by Maldone on 24.11.2021 at 15:57

This probably is their most accessible album at least to metal fans. Coffins On Io and Plastic House On Base Of Sky might be more accessible to general audience but this is certainly their most most metal album to date, so it could possibly appeal even to those who didn't particulary enjoyed their previous work. I am a big fan of their entire discography, and at this point I think I prefer only Hubardo and Choirs Of The Eye to this one.

I read that Hubardo was tied with this one for heaviest of theirs. I've only listened to the debut and this one so far, will investigate.

This one is definitely their heaviest. I guess you could say Hubardo is on heavier side too, but it's closer in style to debut than to this one.

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Written by John_Doe on 24.11.2021 at 10:18

Written by RaduP on 24.11.2021 at 09:58

Still trying to wrap my head around their music after so many years.

yeah, me too.
I don't know if I should give this a chance or not.

YES! GIVE! RIGHT NOW!

Written by John_Doe on 24.11.2021 at 12:04

Written by Netzach on 24.11.2021 at 11:14


General opinion around the webs seems to be this is their most accessible album... relative to the context, of course

is it more accessible than Coffins On Io?

Coffins was Kayo at its most accessible, rhythmic throughout the whole song, a bit more doomy but definitely adhered to general conventions of a song structure. This album is rather a mix of PHOBOS, CoI and Blasphemy when it comes to sound, Dowsing Anemone for its sheer ferocity, and Hubardo minus the folksy sounds that got extracted with his solo albums. It definitely sounds like Toby rammed all around the place like a pinball machine in the past 4 years trying to improve his singing and recording and finally found his sweet spot. Compositions, albeit diverse and complex, make sense. It doesn't cut back in intensity, yet doesn't immediately grasp you from the throat like Hubardo.

On another note, in his AMA he has stated that this was the sound that he wanted to achieve and was content with the mix and instrumentations. I was surprised that he doesn't view Hubardo as the gem most of us see, due to the mix belonging to Dunn. In his own words: "When you hear Hubardo, you are hearing Randall Dunn’s lens of my music". I honestly thought the expansive nature of Hubardo's sound gave so much room in the claustrophobic construction of Toby's ethereal vision, but I suppose this is the pinnacle we were supposed to witness at the end of the day!

Wholatta Cure.... praise the lord, i am Cured

Even the lyrics are really Avant garde.