PERFECT!!! Really emotional....

An Average album for me 6.5

I find this album to be worth a 5.5 or 6 at most. This was such a letdown after the previous two masterpieces Wolfsheart & Irreligious. Although Moonspell did pick themselves up a bit after this horrible sin against their brilliant music which once was they were never able to redeem themselves fully. They are now stuck in that 7 zone. A zone which will have the fanboys and fangirls lap it up like mad and leave the unbiased listener disappointed cause they know what Moonspell could do back in the day when they still mattered and didn't go through the motions which started with Sin/Pecado.

In fact, for me this is the worst album from them!

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 20:28

I find this album to be worth a 5.5 or 6 at most. This was such a letdown after the previous two masterpieces Wolfsheart & Irreligious. Although Moonspell did pick themselves up a bit after this horrible sin against their brilliant music which once was they were never able to redeem themselves fully. They are now stuck in that 7 zone. A zone which will have the fanboys and fangirls lap it up like mad and leave the unbiased listener disappointed cause they know what Moonspell could do back in the day when they still mattered and didn't go through the motions which started with Sin/Pecado.

You just have to keep your mind open Ironically, contrary to basically everyone else, Sin/Pecado is the Moonspell album I keep going back to, and I'm a big Moonspell fan. I don't think I've listened to any of the others as many times. Everyone will probably disagree with me, I read other comments and reviews of this album and I understand why people feel this is a letdown, but there's something about it, a calmness, a certain eroticism that I just love and can't get tired of. Years pass by and this album sounds fresh every time I listen to it. Today I'd rate it higher. I'd rewrite this review, but it'd probably be too long because I'd feel the need to defend this album so much, and I don't want to have (another) review rejected because of length (by the way, there should be a minimum, but it's ridiculous that this site restricts a reviewer's creativity like that, there should be no maximum length for reviews).

Thanks for all your comments.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 20:28

I find this album to be worth a 5.5 or 6 at most. This was such a letdown after the previous two masterpieces Wolfsheart & Irreligious. Although Moonspell did pick themselves up a bit after this horrible sin against their brilliant music which once was they were never able to redeem themselves fully. They are now stuck in that 7 zone. A zone which will have the fanboys and fangirls lap it up like mad and leave the unbiased listener disappointed cause they know what Moonspell could do back in the day when they still mattered and didn't go through the motions which started with Sin/Pecado.

Whatever man, we get it. Every comment you make on every band and album is correct and no one else has any say in the matter.

Written by Stigmatized on 03.01.2009 at 22:08

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 20:28

I find this album to be worth a 5.5 or 6 at most. This was such a letdown after the previous two masterpieces Wolfsheart & Irreligious. Although Moonspell did pick themselves up a bit after this horrible sin against their brilliant music which once was they were never able to redeem themselves fully. They are now stuck in that 7 zone. A zone which will have the fanboys and fangirls lap it up like mad and leave the unbiased listener disappointed cause they know what Moonspell could do back in the day when they still mattered and didn't go through the motions which started with Sin/Pecado.

Whatever man, we get it. Every comment you make on every band and album is correct and no one else has any say in the matter.

Nope, I am just stating my opinion. Posting is stating opinions. No one is wrong or right. I refuse to put IMO after every single post cause it is bleedingly obvious that it is my opinion. Am I not allowed to disagree with reviews? IMO (yes I know I am using it now) it is more interesting to read posts by people that disagree with reviews then a post that just says "I agree, good review"

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 20:28

I find this album to be worth a 5.5 or 6 at most. This was such a letdown after the previous two masterpieces Wolfsheart & Irreligious. Although Moonspell did pick themselves up a bit after this horrible sin against their brilliant music which once was they were never able to redeem themselves fully. They are now stuck in that 7 zone. A zone which will have the fanboys and fangirls lap it up like mad and leave the unbiased listener disappointed cause they know what Moonspell could do back in the day when they still mattered and didn't go through the motions which started with Sin/Pecado.

I see we have two disagreements in a row... for me Sin/Pecado is the best Moonspell album, and the only one I have a truly respect for. Its darkwave feel is amazing and also somehow sinister, without the pretentiousness of their later releases or that bitchiness of their first two full-lenghths... I'm not a Moonspell fan, but I truly love this album.

Written by [user id=5080] on 03.01.2009 at 22:47

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 20:28

I find this album to be worth a 5.5 or 6 at most. This was such a letdown after the previous two masterpieces Wolfsheart & Irreligious. Although Moonspell did pick themselves up a bit after this horrible sin against their brilliant music which once was they were never able to redeem themselves fully. They are now stuck in that 7 zone. A zone which will have the fanboys and fangirls lap it up like mad and leave the unbiased listener disappointed cause they know what Moonspell could do back in the day when they still mattered and didn't go through the motions which started with Sin/Pecado.

I see we have two disagreements in a row... for me Sin/Pecado is the best Moonspell album, and the only one I have a truly respect for. Its darkwave feel is amazing and also somehow sinister, without the pretentiousness of their later releases or that bitchiness of their first two full-lenghths... I'm not a Moonspell fan, but I truly love this album.

I especially love that bitchiness of the first two releases (btw, nice description for the sound there) I can't really stand the pretentiousness of their later releases either. But I don't like the darkwave feel to Sin/Pecado since I have never liked darkwave at all.

Written by [user id=5080] on 03.01.2009 at 22:47

I see we have two disagreements in a row... for me Sin/Pecado is the best Moonspell album, and the only one I have a truly respect for. Its darkwave feel is amazing and also somehow sinister, without the pretentiousness of their later releases or that bitchiness of their first two full-lenghths... I'm not a Moonspell fan, but I truly love this album.

No to be agree about their first two albums, but I also think that Sin/Pecado is the best full-length album.. (of course I like Under the Moonspell the most, that's piece of art in my opinion.)
But here in Sin/Pecado you see a great atmosphere, from the beginning to the end. I found Magdalene and Dekadance very special.. And my favorite track on the album, Eurotica.. And of course Hanged Man.. They are all great great songs of Moonspell in my opinion..
And that's end of my favorite works of Moonspell.. Butterfly Effect, Darkness n Hope, Antidote, Memorial and Night Eternal... Non of them were as well as Sin/Pecado for me..

Abysmo is a great song but ALL the other sound like shit in my ears i do not like them.

It is a weird tracklist.. I liked this album, but don't think 9 is a fair rate. ''Abysmo'' and ''The HangedMan'' (amazing acoustic riffs include) are beautiful songs, but to me these two tracks carry the whole album alone, since the other I can barely remember after listen.
Prefer the two first albums.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 02.01.2009 at 20:28

I find this album to be worth a 5.5 or 6 at most. This was such a letdown after the previous two masterpieces Wolfsheart & Irreligious. Although Moonspell did pick themselves up a bit after this horrible sin against their brilliant music which once was they were never able to redeem themselves fully. They are now stuck in that 7 zone. A zone which will have the fanboys and fangirls lap it up like mad and leave the unbiased listener disappointed cause they know what Moonspell could do back in the day when they still mattered and didn't go through the motions which started with Sin/Pecado.

Huh? Really? I would have expected you to like this one, since I'm more-or-less familliar with your musical taste.
I wouldn't say this is that much worse that their 2 previous releases. However, it's not as good and the style has changed a lot. And the names of most songs are atrocious (Let The Children Cum To Me)... Overall, Abysmo, handmadeGod, 2econd Skin, Dekadence are really good, and the rest are solid. 8 from me.

This album is the reason why i like moonspell...outstanding for me specially the hanged man....maybe the 2 previous albums are somehow better but this album has it special place among them.

Back on 1998, this album was the biggest letdown in the portuguese metal scene.

History apart, even now for me this release is no better than an average album.

Passenger, I think you have a great taste in music, I've told u that before I think, but this album isn't a 9 for me at all. I understand why some people like it but it totally isn't my thing and Moonspell sound like they were trying stuff with this album that really didn't work for them.

U can say that the overall atmosphere is still Moonspell but uninspired Moonspell I would say.

Different opinions are welcome too I hope.

Thanks for the compliments BloodTears, you also have great taste, and of course different opinions are always welcome I can hardly believe I wrote this review 6 years ago and (although I'd probably write it a bit differently) I still think this album is incredibly emotional and multi-layered, as a whole it affects me deeply, like few albums in any style, from any band manage to. I do like their other albums a lot, and I like Gothic Metal in general, but this one is so different, unique and intimate. It's one of those things that really has no explanation, I just love it.

Ah. This album was quite a letdown at first for me, being so calm and just goth...
But it really grew on me, and it's one of my favorites.
And I also believe it's one of their best, but maybe not the best suited for a purely metal audience...

10 for me.

Written by BloodTears on 08.07.2010 at 15:50

Passenger, I think you have a great taste in music, I've told u that before I think, but this album isn't a 9 for me at all. I understand why some people like it but it totally isn't my thing and Moonspell sound like they were trying stuff with this album that really didn't work for them.

Kind of a very late response, but I have nothing better to do at the moment.

I used to think like this too, some year or two ago, when I was almost exclusively into metal. But since then, I've gained a whole lot more appreciation for it, enough to even say it's almost on par with the brilliant Irreligious and Wolfheart. Pretty much a perfect darkwave/rock album, you just need to appreciate all the little details that were put into it.
Some even call it Moonspell's finest, at least as far as musicianship and compositions concerned.

Written by Slayer666 on 21.10.2011 at 15:25

Written by BloodTears on 08.07.2010 at 15:50

Passenger, I think you have a great taste in music, I've told u that before I think, but this album isn't a 9 for me at all. I understand why some people like it but it totally isn't my thing and Moonspell sound like they were trying stuff with this album that really didn't work for them.

Kind of a very late response, but I have nothing better to do at the moment.

I used to think like this too, some year or two ago, when I was almost exclusively into metal. But since then, I've gained a whole lot more appreciation for it, enough to even say it's almost on par with the brilliant Irreligious and Wolfheart. Pretty much a perfect darkwave/rock album, you just need to appreciate all the little details that were put into it.
Some even call it Moonspell's finest, at least as far as musicianship and compositions concerned.

I didn't even remember this comment

I listen to all kinds of things besides metal, including goth, so maybe if I listened to it now, my opinion would be different. I might try doing that. I do respect Moonspell for doing what the hell they want musically but at this point I can't say much more, I haven't listened to this album in a long time.

This is still my favorite album of all time.

It doesn´t feel like a Moonspell record in lots of aspects, back then it was a big letdown comparing to their first two releases, which is tottally understandable. Average at best.