Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.07.2009 at 23:38

Written by BloodTears on 23.07.2009 at 20:02


*checks bootleg* I don't think he does the solo, according to the bootleg he did the soundscapes.

Don't you mean booklet instead of "bootleg" ? A bootleg is an illegal recording

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.07.2009 at 23:38

Written by BloodTears on 23.07.2009 at 20:02


*checks bootleg* I don't think he does the solo, according to the bootleg he did the soundscapes.

Don't you mean booklet instead of "bootleg" ? A bootleg is an illegal recording

Written by BloodTears on 23.07.2009 at 23:39

ahah yes. Bootlegs are the ones I'm trying to get at DT shows but they're too expensive. Thanks for correcting me.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.07.2009 at 23:52

I doubt you get bootlegs at a DT concert.
Here this is what a bootleg is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleg_recording

and here is an example of a Mercyful Fate bootleg site:
http://www.geocities.com/mercyfulfate66/MFBootlegs.html

Written by BloodTears on 23.07.2009 at 23:55



Yes, Marcel, they were selling bootlegs! They had DVDs there, live shows that they never released officially and sell only at shows and things.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.07.2009 at 23:57

Written by BloodTears on 23.07.2009 at 23:55



Yes, Marcel, they were selling bootlegs! They had DVDs there, live shows that they never released officially and sell only at shows and things.

Who was selling that? The band?
Then it is not a bootleg.
A bootleg is somehting which is not done by th band/label/management
Read the wikipedia page I gave a link to on what a bootleg is.

Written by Nosurper on 16.09.2009 at 05:28

Anyone notice the "Trains" riff played near the end of "Sentimental"? It's so obvious there, I can't believe I never noticed it before. guess Steve wanted to add a little tribute.

Written by BloodTears on 16.09.2009 at 15:27

Written by Nosurper on 16.09.2009 at 05:28

Anyone notice the "Trains" riff played near the end of "Sentimental"? It's so obvious there, I can't believe I never noticed it before. guess Steve wanted to add a little tribute.

Yes, I noticed that. Wilson says he used it as a sort of intertext, a wink at fans.

Written by Nosurper on 16.09.2009 at 15:50

Oh cool, I knew I recognized it :-D. Yeah, I'm back listening to the old stuff a lot now. I'm pretty disappointed with The Incident .

Written by BloodTears on 16.09.2009 at 16:23

Are you? Why? the reactions have been good so far.

I'm still waiting for the CD to arrive but I'm pretty sure I'll like it at least, judging by the teasers.

Written by Nosurper on 16.09.2009 at 21:21

Well as far as the first disc goes, I know that this whole disc is supposed to tie together as one piece but it doesn't come off that way. It's like a bunch of separate songs of random length thrown together. I don't see much direction in the lyrics either. There is also much less of a metal influence on this album. A lot more pop heavy, with use of predominant electronic effects, poppy choruses. A lot of acoustic guitar, which can often be good, but not so much here. If you are a Pink Floyd fan, "Time Flies" sounds nearly identical to "Dogs". It's really weird, I don't understand how Steve didn't realize how similar it was to that PF song. I like a few bits from the first disc though, such as "Blind House", "Great Expectation/Kneel and Disconnect" and the title track. The second CD is really short and mostly forgettable. The final two songs have their moments.

I'm still deciding between a 6 or 7 as far as a rating goes. It's not that I don't like it, but I find their previous five albums to be MUCH better.

Written by BloodTears on 16.09.2009 at 21:42

There's nothing wrong with not liking an album. I seem to be getting these positive reacions from people who like prog rock and negative reactions from people who like metal. Since I'm in the middle, I'm guessing I might like it, since I like their pop moments. But I really haven't listened to the album yet.

I think people were getting used to this growing metal-influenced sound in them and now they might've turned the page and that disappoints people. Again, I'm just speculating. I hope I won't be as disappointed though.

Written by Nosurper on 16.09.2009 at 21:53

Yeah, you're right on target. One of the things I love about PT sound is how effectively they transition and incorporate metal into their ambient, progressive passages. This feels much more like a Pink Floyd album, which is great, but it doesn't have that same unique quality of their previous work. That said, I am definetly not trying to force my opinion on you or get your hopes down. Post what you think after you hear it!

Written by [user id=101272] on 16.09.2014 at 04:03

This album is so good, even the MS Front Page wanted to make damn sure no one forgot about it.