Nicko's Nose
Posts: 486 From: Canada |
12.01.2009 - 22:39Rating: 8
Great review of a great album! I would give it a 7 for originality though. It does have a lot of Maiden/Metallica/Dream Theater/other well known metal bands influenced riffs/melodies, but the overall sound is pretty unique imo.
Anyway, as always, most of the people who hate it hate it only because it's Trivium or because it's "untr00". It has a surprisingly good overall rating though... Looks like a lot of "tr00"/anti-Trivium metalheads forgot to rate it.
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StratoDan1990
Posts: 24 From: UK
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13.03.2009 - 01:56Rating: 10
A brilliant review and couldn't agree more. Being a trivium fan for about 4 years, this is probebly their best album in terms of production, not originality though (I admit). After listening to Ascendancy in 2005 (which is the first album that actually got me into any kind of metal) I couldn't be happier with having Shogun in the collection, especially after 'The Crusade' which was mediocre.
I would recommend the dvd to the fans, it lasts up to about an hour in length.
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
Posts: 7261 From: USA |
14.03.2009 - 00:13Rating: 2
Shogun is nothing but formulated pop music with guitar solos. There isn't much of a difference between Trivium and The Spice Girls, probably even with sexual preference too lol.
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
Posts: 2570 From: Czech Republic |
14.03.2009 - 00:33Rating: 8
K✞uluSeeker of TruthPosts: 2570 From: Czech Republic
That's a rather bluntly stupid statement I must say, apart from being unsupported.
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Vanwarp
Posts: 61 From: Canada |
06.04.2009 - 03:00Rating: 9
Very pleasantly surprised, enjoyed it all, from the beginning right to the very end.
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Xeros612
Posts: 30 From: USA |
28.04.2009 - 20:23Rating: 9
Solid album, nice progression/collection from their earlier sound.
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Daggon Underpaid M.D.
Posts: 1689 From: Mexico |
25.06.2009 - 07:49Rating: 7
DaggonUnderpaid M.D.Posts: 1689 From: Mexico
I was listening to this album and "Ascendancy" today while studying at the library, nice album indeed. I found this very influenced by other thrash metal bands and less influenced by the metalcore scene, and even if it is not the most original work ever done on the metal scene I'm sure that many people can enjoy this and headbang while listening to this album. They just need "something" more to creat a masterpiece, maybe if they start playing more on the Thrash metal side...
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Written by Guest on 10.07.2009 at 01:52
Written by Dangerboner on 14.03.2009 at 00:13
Shogun is nothing but formulated pop music with guitar solos. There isn't much of a difference between Trivium and The Spice Girls, probably even with sexual preference too lol.
What a stupid comment! Some people just pour crap out of their mouths without even giving any real reasons why they don't like something! That's the case here! You just say "for me this is shit" cause you don't have an open mind and don't know how to respect other people's tastes lol!
Get a life man, and if you don't like something don't say moronic things like that, just go listen to something else!
I totally agree with u. if u don't like it, don't post a comment for it. why are u wasting ur time browsing MS for this album if u hate the whole band!!!
for me Throes Of Perdition is the best.... So Great,musically and lyrically.
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Panterica
Posts: 341 From: Israel |
11.08.2009 - 16:07Rating: 8
Great album indeed , definitely after The Crusade which was a let down (In my opinion).
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Their best so far
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V8Thrasher
Posts: 30 From: USA |
20.11.2009 - 08:09Rating: 10
Definitely a huge evolution and a big step forward from their previous albums, it was one of my top albums of 2008. I can see them stepping into the Progressive/Thrash route, if only they dumped those metalcore vocals. anyways, great review, and great album
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+{Jonas}+ I R Serious Cat
Posts: 4955 From: Colombia |
18.12.2009 - 03:38Rating: 8
+{Jonas}+I R Serious CatPosts: 4955 From: Colombia
Great review, and it is indeed a great improvement. It's not so "bay area thrash ripoff" as The Crussade, and it is very very catchy, IMo thee is also an improvement n Matt's screaming. Tis bad isgettingbetter, growing up and making more mature albums.
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This is actually the only Trivium album I really enjoy. It's a definite improvement since I found their last three albums either mediocre or just plain bad. On an unrelated note, their new song for God of War 3 is pretty good.
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JohnWayneGacy666
Posts: 86 From: USA |
I actually reckon ascendancy was Triviums best album but This album is an instant classic I can't forget the words from the 12 minute epic shogun, and insurrection was one of my favorite tracks as well as Kirisute Gomen
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Amazing album, not as good as Acendancy, but damn fuckin close
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Kennoth
Posts: 2502 From: Croatia |
A pleasant surprise for me as well. I especially like Down From the Sky. The major downside for me however, would be the length of their song, and ESPECIALLY the lead track Shogun which lasts for 13 minutes
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
Posts: 2570 From: Czech Republic |
14.04.2010 - 21:23Rating: 8
K✞uluSeeker of TruthPosts: 2570 From: Czech Republic
Written by Kennoth on 14.04.2010 at 18:30
The major downside for me however, would be the length of their song, and ESPECIALLY the lead track Shogun which lasts for 13 minutes
Why? Does it get boring? I love every second of the title track.
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Kennoth
Posts: 2502 From: Croatia |
To be honest, it kinda does. It's a nice song, but I can't listen to something that long, no matter who's doing it.
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Valentin B Iconoclast
Posts: 10084 From: Czech Republic |
20.12.2010 - 04:05Rating: 8
Valentin BIconoclastPosts: 10084 From: Czech Republic
I think everyone had a great surprise with this album. i checked out tracks 1, 3 and 5 today, and indeed it's a great piece of music with some quite creative riffs. gonna listen to the whole album sometime these days.
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jimmy
Posts: 42 From: USA
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I've been a fan of this band since the first time i heard 'like light to the flies', so i've checked out all their albums and this is the best one. thats not to say that the others aren't good, just that this one is a little better. and unlike the reviewer, i DO like the bonus tracks. they're good songs and a nice addition to the cd. as a fan you can definately see the progression of this band from their first album, ember to inferno, which is the only trivium album i cannot listen to, as it is not a good album and way too metalcore, through to shogun. i see a band thets getting better with every release.
my only problem with this album is all the screaming. i have nothing against screaming, but it just seems forced on some songs and out of place. like they're trying to hang on to their metalcore roots too hard when the songs dont demand it. i think heafy sounds better when he's singing clean or singing in the gruff, hetfield type vocal range. the screaming just seems misplaced to me.
still a great album though.
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Sonic MrSumo
Posts: 447 From: Australia |
20.01.2011 - 01:26Rating: 9
Still not a huge fan of the raspy voice, but the clean vocals and music is excellent. They certainly are evolving nicely as a band, although The Crusade didn't do a lot for me.
The reviewer did a very good job, well done K?ulu. And I couldn't agree more, this album is NOT Metalcore, it's Thrash. So if you've disliked their previous albums because they had Metalcore influences, perhaps it's time to give them another try with Shogun.
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fanapathy
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Having listened to this album for a couple months, I can say that originally I thought it was better but my final score today would be 8.0
What attracted me to Trivium is the guitar riffs, the rhythm parts mostly. I do not think vocals are that good and that the guitar solos are nothing special.
It's just the damn good riffs that makes it for me. The intro to "Throes..", the solo riff in "Torn Between.." and the (pre)bass solo riff."Into the mouth.." main riff and solo riff, the main riff is beyond amazing and probably the best one on the album. Shogun from 07:15-09:40 is the most amazing part on the album IMO. And these are just some. Some songs are not that great and some choruses I find somewhat boring. Overall a very cool album with some awesome stuff to learn for guitar players
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Jokerslayer777
Posts: 11 From: Italy
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I dont like metalcore but this band is awesome
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Written by Dangerboner on 14.03.2009 at 00:13
Shogun is nothing but formulated pop music with guitar solos. There isn't much of a difference between Trivium and The Spice Girls, probably even with sexual preference too lol.
except i dont remember a spice girls song where anyone ever screamed "we'll take their fucking heads"
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Coolingsrock
Posts: 217 From: Canada |
23.07.2014 - 22:34Rating: 10
This album was right before they fell off that cliff.its a long ways down with 2 albums under their belt before they hit the ground. talking about in waves and vengeance falls.
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