Andresopeth
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15.07.2009 - 00:24Rating: 8
Well, i agree about how Heavy this album may sound and how they get away of their most progressive roots, but on the other hand there is the Damnation album, which was recorded simultaniously with this one, and, clearly, is away (on the other direction) from their sound, so, i think it was their objective two albums having all their musical influences but separated. Deliverance + Damnation= Opeth's unique sound. So that keeps them as unique band because they are able to do that kind of stuffs.
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chematss
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'Technically, this band's musicians aren't the greatest. They're good, but they way they all come together is what makes them extraordinary.' good point
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
15.07.2009 - 00:55Rating: 7
Yeah.. I think this is a good review, the other was was way to extreme since this isn't an album that really deserves a huge grade. It's a good album and all but not hte best. Still... The darker sound is great.
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Warman Erotic Stains
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15.07.2009 - 01:20Rating: 8
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A great album but there's still something missing. I think it lacks Opeth songs you can play time after time, over and over.
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Eleazar
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15.07.2009 - 02:16Rating: 10
With all due respect to my friend who wrote this review I say that I do not agree with him. Why? Because Deliverance is a masterpiece from Opeth, like all his records. What I liked was when he said that they are not good musicians. I would say the opposite. Just listen Wreath and Deliverance. The last 4 minutes of Deliverance to the drums are majestic. And yes, the sound, the production is perhaps the best, but I think that all the pieces come together for this album is a masterpiece.
With all due respect and without wishing to bother, I do not agree with the guy who wrote this
Greetings from Mexico City.
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danielllewis
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Written by Eleazar on 15.07.2009 at 02:16
With all due respect to my friend who wrote this review I say that I do not agree with him. Why? Because Deliverance is a masterpiece from Opeth, like all his records. What I liked was when he said that they are not good musicians. I would say the opposite. Just listen Wreath and Deliverance. The last 4 minutes of Deliverance to the drums are majestic. And yes, the sound, the production is perhaps the best, but I think that all the pieces come together for this album is a masterpiece.
With all due respect and without wishing to bother, I do not agree with the guy who wrote this
Greetings from Mexico City.
It's cool if you don't agree with me, but I'd just like to clarity that I said the musicians aren't the best. That doesn't mean they're not good, but as I said, I just think that the way they come together is what makes them extraordinary.
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Nicko's Nose
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15.07.2009 - 05:06Rating: 9
"I guess the reason for this is that their music is so accessible"
I have to disagree with this. A lot of people just can't get into them and it took me a pretty long while to really like them. I had to listen to some of their albums over 5 times to really like them. I wasn't forcing myself to like them... It just took me a while to "get" them.
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Written by Nicko's Nose on 15.07.2009 at 05:06
"I guess the reason for this is that their music is so accessible"
I have to disagree with this. A lot of people just can't get into them and it took me a pretty long while to really like them. I had to listen to some of their albums over 5 times to really like them. I wasn't forcing myself to like them... It just took me a while to "get" them.
Don't you think you're forcing yourself to like it if it took you five listens? For me I heard Ghost Reveries and I was automiatically intuned. That was over two yeras ago ofcourse.
I think he meant accessible as in they're very mainstream and aquiring their discs is possible in almost any part of the globe, including Israel haha.
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Nicko's Nose
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15.07.2009 - 05:43Rating: 9
Written by [user id=21138] on 15.07.2009 at 05:24
Written by Nicko's Nose on 15.07.2009 at 05:06
"I guess the reason for this is that their music is so accessible"
I have to disagree with this. A lot of people just can't get into them and it took me a pretty long while to really like them. I had to listen to some of their albums over 5 times to really like them. I wasn't forcing myself to like them... It just took me a while to "get" them.
Don't you think you're forcing yourself to like it if it took you five listens? For me I heard Ghost Reveries and I was automiatically intuned. That was over two yeras ago ofcourse.
I think he meant accessible as in they're very mainstream and aquiring their discs is possible in almost any part of the globe, including Israel haha.
Nah. It's just that their music is kinda complex (many changes, etc...) and I usually need to listen to complex albums a bunch of times before really loving them. The structure of the songs makes more and more sense with each listen and etc... It didn't take me 5 listens to like them, I liked a couple of riffs and all straight away, but it took me about 5 listens to really get the structure and all... The fact that I don't have a really good memory doesn't help too.
I loved Ghost Reveries straight away too. Same thing with Watershed.
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Written by Nicko's Nose on 15.07.2009 at 05:43
Written by [user id=21138] on 15.07.2009 at 05:24
Written by Nicko's Nose on 15.07.2009 at 05:06
"I guess the reason for this is that their music is so accessible"
I have to disagree with this. A lot of people just can't get into them and it took me a pretty long while to really like them. I had to listen to some of their albums over 5 times to really like them. I wasn't forcing myself to like them... It just took me a while to "get" them.
Don't you think you're forcing yourself to like it if it took you five listens? For me I heard Ghost Reveries and I was automiatically intuned. That was over two yeras ago ofcourse.
I think he meant accessible as in they're very mainstream and aquiring their discs is possible in almost any part of the globe, including Israel haha.
Nah. It's just that their music is kinda complex (many changes, etc...) and I usually need to listen to complex albums a bunch of times before really loving them. The structure of the songs makes more and more sense with each listen and etc... It didn't take me 5 listens to like them, I liked a couple of riffs and all straight away, but it took me about 5 listens to really get the structure and all... The fact that I don't have a really good memory doesn't help too.
I loved Ghost Reveries straight away too. Same thing with Watershed.
I see, I also have to lisetn to an album a few times to memorise it but usually I can tell if I like it or not fromt he first or maximum second listen.
I have to admit, Ghost Reveries is better thna the latter. I liked the track heir apperant but the rest was really melo, keep in mind progressive is not one of my favourite genres. ironically I attended progressive Nation alst year.
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RockeRoy
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15.07.2009 - 13:14Rating: 9
Who do you compare Opeth technical skills with? they are not a technical death band! and they are not only good musicians they are Amaizing, Technicality are not alone what makes someone a great musician
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
15.07.2009 - 14:28Rating: 7
Written by Eleazar on 15.07.2009 at 02:16
With all due respect to my friend who wrote this review I say that I do not agree with him. Why? Because Deliverance is a masterpiece from Opeth, like all his records. What I liked was when he said that they are not good musicians. I would say the opposite. Just listen Wreath and Deliverance. The last 4 minutes of Deliverance to the drums are majestic. And yes, the sound, the production is perhaps the best, but I think that all the pieces come together for this album is a masterpiece.
With all due respect and without wishing to bother, I do not agree with the guy who wrote this
Greetings from Mexico City.
LOL... do you want every album having a friggin 10?
8,4 is a perfect rating for this one. it says it's a good album. and the comments aren't harsh at all.
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15.07.2009 - 15:41Rating: 8
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.07.2009 at 14:28
8,4 is a perfect rating for this one. it says it's a good album. and the comments aren't harsh at all.
I would probably give it that +1, and I still think Opeth has done much better.
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skrätte I Hate You
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20.07.2009 - 03:30Rating: 9
This album contains 2 of my favorite Opeth songs, Wreath and Deliverance. The rest of the album is great, in my opinion, but those are the two tracks that stand out the most for me.
I know that when you said that Opeth "technically... aren't the greatest" you meant that they get their unmistakable chemistry as a unit and not individually. I just want to comment on that. I think that a great musician is not only defined by what they play.. but also by what they do not play. Opeth certainly has the chops to give us 10 minute songs of pure shred from start to finish, and that would easily show us that they can play their instruments. I think that Opeth's greatness comes to us in the form of masterful song-writing. They know when to take it down a notch.
Take out the lyrics from any Opeth song, leave the vocal melodies in tact, and it still paints an accurate picture of the songs original meaning. There's creepy, upbeat, angry, sorrowful. The band speaks with the music. So while they may not be the greatest, technically, I think they definitely give "the greatest" a run for their money with regards to song-writing.
Enjoyed the review.
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danielllewis
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Written by skrätte on 20.07.2009 at 03:30
I know that when you said that Opeth "technically... aren't the greatest" you meant that they get their unmistakable chemistry as a unit and not individually. I just want to comment on that. I think that a great musician is not only defined by what they play.. but also by what they do not play. Opeth certainly has the chops to give us 10 minute songs of pure shred from start to finish, and that would easily show us that they can play their instruments. I think that Opeth's greatness comes to us in the form of masterful song-writing. They know when to take it down a notch.
I know that opeth's greatness comes to us in the form of songwriting, and that's why I said technically. I probably should have used a better word.
I agree with that though. It's like amon amarth's guitarists. They're not shredders or anything, but they are fantastic at writing riffs and composing.
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skrätte I Hate You
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21.07.2009 - 01:30Rating: 9
Agreed. And you've just put me in the mood for some Amon Amarth.
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tuerda
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I'd say for the most part that this review is spot on, but I think the song "deliverance" has been overlooked (Especially the last four soul shattering minutes of riff mayhem). I agree that the rest of the album is weak by Opeth standards, but that song is the best they have ever played.
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Copperstone
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Great review daniellewis! Totally agree with Mr. Doctor and Warman... the album is pretty heavy, but lacks the great qualities which albums like Blackwater Park have...!
Opeth still rules!!! m/
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Panterica
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05.09.2009 - 16:20Rating: 8
I agree with the review, all the things are well written.
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A lot of people are saying that Opeth is not "technically" a good band.
Can someone explain this in context of a musician ?
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Solstafir!
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21.10.2009 - 13:16Rating: 8
Good review...
Never really got into this one like the others...
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Uirapuru Liver Failure
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Written by Eleazar on 15.07.2009 at 02:16
With all due respect to my friend who wrote this review I say that I do not agree with him. Why? Because Deliverance is a masterpiece from Opeth, like all his records.
LOL Thats why I love Opeth fanboys.. ''they are masterpieces because they ARE masterpieces.''
Btw.. that's the only Opeth review that makes sense at all.
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malaikat
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06.03.2011 - 13:32Rating: 7
I fully agree with the reviewer that this is (by far for me) the worst Opeth album, but in no way a BAD album generaly. It has some awesome points to it, but that's just it, points - almost every other Opeth release is awesome from the first second onward.
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Tetravirulence
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Master's Apprentices
If you only did know how to play this, you would appreciate it much better
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Grody2themax
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15.12.2011 - 08:53Rating: 7
Written by danielllewis on 15.07.2009 at 03:46
It's cool if you don't agree with me, but I'd just like to clarity that I said the musicians aren't the best. That doesn't mean they're not good, but as I said, I just think that the way they come together is what makes them extraordinary.
No musician is the best. The better the musician is the more subjective it gets. For example, is Allan Holdsworth the best fusion guitarist? Thats up for one's own personal opinion, but hes the best at what he does. Opeth is without a doubt the best at creating their own sound. Whether or not Mikeal Akerfeldt can sweep jazz arpeggios in rapidly changing obscure time signatures at 220bpm is completely irrelevant here.
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mz
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06.02.2012 - 21:43Rating: 8
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This was the first opeth album i heard. sounds like a plastic heavy album that doesnt have the opeth sound for me. Maybe Im exaggerating because Im the big fan of opeth and this is pretty meh comparing to everything opeth had done even wateshade. the best track is the softer "A Fair Judgement"
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Soulhole
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This album was a long grower for me. Been listening to Opeth about 10 years now and I am just now starting to appreciate this album. Soooo good! Production is awesome, and all songs are masterfully written.
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