The worst album I've ever heard... not just because it's Queensryche, but because it's the epitome of ignorance and just plain not giving a shit in music.

Written by BloodTears on 01.07.2011 at 23:12

I never liked Queensrÿche, so I think I'll pass.

Smart move.

Written by CobiWan1993 on 15.10.2012 at 00:38

Written by BloodTears on 01.07.2011 at 23:12

I never liked Queensrÿche, so I think I'll pass.

Smart move.

I could never get into them, not my cup of tea at all!

I can't believe this shit is queensryche but you must edmit they've been going down since empire.
that's a fact.awful band,awful album.

Damn, man. This sucks!

Why have they done this album? i wish they would have listen the album before releasing

Written by Lustful Maid on 20.02.2013 at 20:52

How could I believe you guys ! Because of your low ratings I ignored this album since 2011. Yesterday I bought it at 50% off in a record shop.....found out....What A Masterpiece ! Michael Wilton's guitar works are perfectly mixed with Geoff rhythmic vocals (drummer is also a good time keeper) made this a very Jazzy Progressve album (Jazzy Progressive Metal is the highest level in Progressive genre). "Average Listeners" really need to train their ears more in order not to write groundless comments.

Are you serious? Your statement just made me LOL. What jazzy progressive metal is here?

Written by [user id=17278] on 22.02.2013 at 13:23
What jazzy progressive metal is here?

If it were jazzy progressive metal, more than likely, I'd have been singing it's praises. As far as I can recall, there's only one song on the whole album that even resembles anything metal, let alone anything that could be placed in the prog/jazz metal category... mcm must be listening to a different album from me, that's for sure.

Written by Angelic Storm on 22.02.2013 at 15:23

Written by [user id=17278] on 22.02.2013 at 13:23
What jazzy progressive metal is here?

If it were jazzy progressive metal, more than likely, I'd have been singing it's praises. As far as I can recall, there's only one song on the whole album that even resembles anything metal, let alone anything that could be placed in the prog/jazz metal category... mcm must be listening to a different album from me, that's for sure.

But nothing in their music is remotely jazzy, a sax solo does not make an album jazzy (LOL)
It doesn't matter that the album is not a metal one, it's simply uninspired, uninteresting, even unattractive if I may say so. I even liked HITNF, Q2K, Tribe and American Soldier. But DTC was a frustratingly awful album for me.

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Written by Lustful Maid on 22.02.2013 at 21:06

Are you serious? Your statement just made me LOL. What jazzy progressive metal is here?

You guys must give this album a second chance. I must say this is not an easy listening album compare to Rage For Order, Operation Mindcrime and Empire. This album adopted a lot of 70's progressive rock elements with modern jazz composition (played heavily), doesn' mean have to use jazz musical instruments in here. If you understand the underrated band - Camel's early works, then you will understand this album.

I bought this album last week, have been non-stop playing for more than 20 times. The music is so rich, artistic and unexpected ! The point is how do you appreciate drummer, guitar and bass work together, thay are really skillful. Do not always focus on vocals, you are not listening to Pop song. Probably I am a musician, we don't listen the same way as metal fans.

What you say makes no sense. There is no similarity whatsoever between DTC and early Camel (which I absolutely adore). DTC is not even progressive at all, there are no jazz influences, are we even talking about the same album .
There are no 70s prog elements either. Wtf??!!

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Written by Lustful Maid on 22.02.2013 at 21:29

...mcm must be listening to a different album from me, that's for sure.

I dont particularly like this band, but I listened all of their albums and owned all their masterpieces. Queensryche is an very underrated band as their works are somewhat artistic and not easy to be understood. Their unique Prog music composition can not be copied easily by other bands. When I was Ilistening to this album, I knew they were in trouble as it was so "extremely prog", not many fans can accept that. They are realy good as no band can go so far like them. If you dont call it Jazz Progressive Metal, then you may call it Beyond Progressive Metal. Love it to the core.

again,what are you talking about??

When someone says Queensryches is a very underrated band, like msm does, they immediately dismiss themselves entirely.

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Written by Lustful Maid on 23.02.2013 at 05:07

Again,what are you talking about??

I was saying you desperately need some music classes.

So when you run out of arguments, an insult helps, right?

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Written by Lustful Maid on 23.02.2013 at 05:16

What you say makes no sense. There is no similarity whatsoever between DTC and early Camel (which I absolutely adore). DTC is not even progressive at all, there are no jazz influences, are we even talking about the same album .
There are no 70s prog elements either. Wtf??!!

-To an average listener "similar = Identical". To a musician "similar = adoption of any percentage of music composition". We look things in different ways.
-DTC is 101% Progressive.

Similar never means identical, pick up a dictionary...

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Written by Lustful Maid on 23.02.2013 at 12:05

Similar never means identical, pick up a dictionary...

Read carefully.
"Average" means "Weak", is an implied criticism.
"Average Listener" is refering you and those dont know any hell about music.
"similar=identical" is also refering to your misinterpretation of music.
(no wonder you did not know what the hell i was talking about, I think Angelic storm is smarter than you, she did not had such complaints)

Wow, look at you being all arrogant and insolent, you have some serious issues.
how the hell does "similar=identical" defines my misinterpretation of music?! All I said is that there weren't any similarities between Queensryche and early Camel. There have never been, not even in their glory days; maybe some Rush or even Kansas, but not Camel.

I wasn't complaining about anything, I was just disagreeing, (are you sure you don't need a dictionary?)

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Written by Lustful Maid on 23.02.2013 at 12:16

So when you run out of arguments, an insult helps, right?

- No insults here, please, just a joke.
-The drummer is obviously playing Jazz rhythms ( I dont know how do you define Jazz, Norah Jones ? I think you re talking about modern pop Jazz, I am talking about 60-80's Jazz ), guitarist and bassists cut in and duet with the drummer create a perfect atmosphere. if you think it is not then I have really out of words.
- Just to help Queensryche to say something which is not fair to them. They really spent a lot of time on this album. Today I have listened to it 3 times.

You hear jazz rhythms on DTC?! You're hearing things definitely.
I barely know who Norah Jones is so no luck for another insult.
At least I have listened to quite a few jazz/rock fusion bands and artists, they are an influence on progressive metal, not on Queensryche though.

"I have really out of words" is incorrect, it's "I am really out of words" (a dictionary might help ).

I have nothing against you liking Dedicated to Chaos; nevertheless, your statements above are close to ridiculous.

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Written by Lustful Maid on 24.02.2013 at 22:15

1. You hear jazz rhythms on DTC?! You're hearing things definitely.
2. At least I have listened to quite a few jazz/rock fusion bands and artists, they are an influence on progressive metal, not on Queensryche though.

1. You're not hearing anything definitely.
2. Your statements were contradictory before and after. I am glad you have found your mistakes in Wikipedia. By the way, you made a new mistake, Queensryche is a progressive band.

Again, I still strongly advise you to take up music classes at any music center near you.
I may be harsh as I dont mind insulting people rather than seeing people insulting music.

I never said Queensryche is not a progressive band, you misunderstood, again... There are not jazz or fusion elements to their music, that's all. You keep saying they have elements of modern jazz ( ), what argument do you have for that, only you know and apparently keep that a secret . for example jazz, whether classic or modern is poly-rhythmic and based on improvisation, show me elements of that on DTC...
What mistakes are you talking about that I corrected with wikipedia? Really?

Since when is expressing dislike or disappointment an insult, how am I insulting music? Feel good about yourself, you lost me there...

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Written by Lustful Maid on 25.02.2013 at 21:00

....Scott and Geoff had the audacity to compare the new album to "Empire" and "Rage For Order"... Id love to hear what they're hearing, because I certainly can't hear anything of those albums in this one! It is truly a terrible album...

Thanks for telling us that, i really didnt know that Scott and Geoff compared this album to "Empire" and "Rage For Order"... They were honest. In fact this is this best album among all. I had never listened to one album more than 30 times for years as i did to this album ! But they made one mistake, they should warn listeners this album is artistic and perceptive, not for music mob.

Today, I have changed my rating, how could i rate 8 to an album which I have listened for more than 30 times ?

You misread that quote you made, and who wrote those words is right: Rage for Order and Empire have nothing in common with DTC whatsoever.

Reading many of mcm's comments is thoroughly entertaining albeit confusing .

Written by Lustful Maid on 01.03.2013 at 21:21

Written by CobiWan1993 on 28.02.2013 at 12:14

Reading many of mcm's comments is thoroughly entertaining albeit confusing .

Don't be. Buy this album here and now, music is hard to be described by words.

No thanks, this is the worst album I've ever heard. The shittiness of this release is hard to be described by words.

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Written by Lustful Maid on 01.03.2013 at 20:55

You misread that quote you made, and who wrote those words is right: Rage for Order and Empire have nothing in common with DTC whatsoever.

1. When did you start having hallucination ?
I have never heard of anyone in the world saying "Rage for Order and Empire are in common with Dedcated To Chaos". You and Angelic Storm are "Fantastic 2" to imagine things. Or just bullshit, trying to be smart ?
2. You are the one misunderstood the statement made by Scott and Geoff. They meant the STANDARD of music, not the musical composition. You think they can not differentiate their own music ? They need you to advice them ? to correct them ? you are pathetic, living in your own world.
3. Obviously taking up music classes are not sufficient for you, you need IQ test ! Try your best to score above 80.

You never back up your comments with arguments that make sense anyway, just insults which don't help anyway.

All right then, I misunderstood that statement, it confused everyone anyway, comparing RFO and Empire to DTC is like comparing apples to oranges; same standard you say? lol

Written by Lustful Maid on 01.03.2013 at 21:21

Written by CobiWan1993 on 28.02.2013 at 12:14

Reading many of mcm's comments is thoroughly entertaining albeit confusing .

Don't be. Buy this album here and now, music is hard to be described by words.

Dude, you know, you really need to get a grip. This album barely has something to do with prog, not to mention influences from early Camel. Get over it, pretty much everything on this album sucks balls. When 2-3 people say that you have a problem, then you can ignore, but if all the people from around here share the same opinion, then you need to get your facts straight... Whether you like this album or not is none of my business, but stop acting like a kid that earns for attention and instead of annoying people around here with your disjointed speech, play DTC until your ears rot.

Before boasting around about your so called "musical training" I advice you to change your music teacher first or simply reconverse. If you consider that DTC is actually better, on par, or even close to Mindcrime or Empire or any early 90s and 80s Queensryche, then you must have shitty music tastes. It is like saying that Metallica's St. Anger can ever be on par with Ride the Lightning, or Megadeth's Risk being on par with Rust in Peace. If there is a reason why music tends to suck these days (of course, not refering to al of it) it is because of so called musicians like you. Because somebody that says DTC is better than Mindcrime cannot be taken seriously, not as a person, nor as a musician, maybe as a troll.

Buying this album is a waste of money. There are much better albums made in 2011 than this garbage.

Possibly the worst metal album of all time.

This is some of the laziest songwriting I've ever heard, but music wise, I feel like I've heard worse.

Wow, this album is so bad. And I don't mean just St. Anger or Lulu bad, but everything about this feels so uninspired and lazy, every single riff, every melody, literally everything. The songs are completely lifeless, they have enough familiar structures that one can at least recognize them as "songs" but there's really nothing to grab on, no hooks or even lyricwise anything interesting to say. The nice bass tone might be the only redeeming quality about this album, but other than that nothing really stuck with me, there's literally nothing memorable. It's just boring, they could've just recorded some random white noise and it would have been better than this.

It's the definition of careless songwriting and washed up energy. The songs are weak compared to everything else they've released and I sometimes debate if these songs are metal because of how weak it sounds.