This spacey trend is so damn stale...

Isn't every "trend" in music stale at this point? At least space is potentially infinite...

I wouldn't call it a "trend". It's a theme. There has been space-themed metal and music in general since... I don't know, I'd say Bowie's Space Oddity in 1969 at least, off the top of my head. No one says that gore in dm/bdm/grind is a trend, and yet it's stale as can be just as well.

Trend or not, it's one of the better themes a band can base themselves on.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.08.2014 at 18:25

At least space is potentially infinite...

Is that a pun? I hope that's a pun.

Written by Alex F on 23.08.2014 at 19:03
Is that a pun? I hope that's a pun.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.08.2014 at 19:05

Written by Alex F on 23.08.2014 at 19:03
Is that a pun? I hope that's a pun.

Like....space is infinite....not as a trend but the actual concept....you know.....space...............nevermind

Written by Alex F on 23.08.2014 at 19:06
Like....space is infinite....not as a trend but the actual concept....you know.....space...............nevermind

Ya that's what I meant but I wouldn't call it a pun. More of an analogy than anything. I'm sure Joe could tell you what the proper term is though, he knows all the weird Latin phrases for things.

A tautology/pleonasm? Because space being infinite is... kinda comprised in the concept of space.

Ilham knows her stuff.

I guess I should probably clarify at this point. The trend for these overproduced and plastic cover arts based within the theme of space is becoming stale.

Written by Ilham on 23.08.2014 at 18:31

No one says that gore in dm/bdm/grind is a trend, and yet it's stale as can be just as well.

No one expects musicians within those genres to write about anything else neither. In this scene filled with pretentious musicians and pseudointellectual lyrics, it's more pathetic, at least from my perspective.

Written by LeKiwi on 26.08.2014 at 03:23
I guess I should probably clarify at this point. The trend for these overproduced and plastic cover arts based within the theme of space is becoming stale.

I can get on board with the cover art issue, but not the lyrical content. No one expects death metal bands to write about anything other than death and gore? I beg to differ. Spend some time using Metal-Archives' advanced search options and you'll see plenty of cross-contamination.

Musicians can't win these days. You complain about pretentiousness yet if these guys chose to write straightforward old school death metal you'd just complain that they aren't trying anything new.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.08.2014 at 05:02

I can get on board with the cover art issue, but not the lyrical content. No one expects death metal bands to write about anything other than death and gore? I beg to differ. Spend some time using Metal-Archives' advanced search options and you'll see plenty of cross-contamination.

Musicians can't win these days. You complain about pretentiousness yet if these guys chose to write straightforward old school death metal you'd just complain that they aren't trying anything new.

I didn't realise that Ilham also mentioned death metal in her comment. As for brutal death and grind, I don't think there's that much variation in lyrical content (and grindcore.)

Edit: actually had a look into death metal as well, and it seems to be pretty consistent between a few common themes as with the previously mentioned genres.

Totally ignoring the comments above, I'll say that this album is excellent. I'm typically not a fan of the vocal style but Daniel Tompkins is something else. This band has incredibly talented musicians.

I for one am a fan of the spacious wall-of-sound production style, so this suits my tastes nicely.

Written by Stunning Cactus on 06.12.2014 at 12:59

I for one am a fan of the spacious wall-of-sound production style, so this suits my tastes nicely.

here here!!!!

Sorry for the nearly double-comment, but good god, this is one of my new favorite finds.

Written by Stunning Cactus on 09.01.2015 at 12:58

Sorry for the nearly double-comment, but good god, this is one of my new favorite finds.

I'm shifting my rating from 8 to 9. Man this was one of the difficult listens lately. There's just too much to digest! But loving the the arrangements. Except the last song, which I still can't decide, length of every track is apt, and the passages flow into each other so perfectly!

Djent? Besides that single 'Evolution' there is as much Djent as there is Pop Punk on this record.
There is a dense atmosphere/post rock influence.

Either way, how do you differentiate Progressive Math Metal and Math Metal? I would be grateful if someone throws in examples.

Written by AssailantForce on 12.02.2015 at 18:00

Either way, how do you differentiate Progressive Math Metal and Math Metal? I would be grateful if someone throws in examples.

Regardless of whether this is prog math or not this is an easy way to visualise the fusion: take prog metal and add math metal tendencies (in most cases on this website this refers to erratic poly-rhythms as heard in djent and math metal.)

Comfortably the strongest of the 'djent' nominees

Awesome album, one of the best progressive metal albums in recent years.