HumanSpirit
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Tobi, this madness has to stop
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Stratowarrior
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I hope the drummer is Jorg Michael
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Written by Irritable Ted on 25.10.2012 at 18:47
I hope it is back to the style of the first two albums, but I doubt it. I don't think he has got it in him anymore.
Indeed. I have the same feeling. Seems like Tobi is not so good at writing any memorable songs anymore..
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Less hard rock please
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Italics
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If it's true that his last album was the most successful one he's had yet, I highly doubt he's "losing it." Granted, I'm not a big fan of any Avantasia period, so who knows.
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JÄY Metal slave
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Written by Italics on 25.10.2012 at 20:03
If it's true that his last album was the most successful one he's had yet, I highly doubt he's "losing it." Granted, I'm not a big fan of any Avantasia period, so who knows.
Most successful at what, though??....
Justin Beiber is very successful as well
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Andreas
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Hmm, I'm looking forward to this. I enjoyed all Avantasia albums, so I have nothing to complain... yet.
Written by JÄY on 25.10.2012 at 20:33
Justin Beiber is very successful as well
And for a good reason!
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JÄY Metal slave
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Written by Andreas on 25.10.2012 at 20:53
Hmm, I'm looking forward to this. I enjoyed all Avantasia albums, so I have nothing to complain... yet.
Written by JÄY on 25.10.2012 at 20:33
Justin Beiber is very successful as well
And for a good reason!
....soul belongs to Satan?
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Written by JÄY on 25.10.2012 at 21:12
Written by Andreas on 25.10.2012 at 20:53
Hmm, I'm looking forward to this. I enjoyed all Avantasia albums, so I have nothing to complain... yet.
Written by JÄY on 25.10.2012 at 20:33
Justin Beiber is very successful as well
And for a good reason!
....soul belongs to Satan?
Something like that, yes.
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HumanSpirit
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Written by Italics on 25.10.2012 at 20:03
If it's true that his last album was the most successful one he's had yet, I highly doubt he's "losing it." Granted, I'm not a big fan of any Avantasia period, so who knows.
So... Music < Fame?
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Italics
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Written by HumanSpirit on 27.10.2012 at 05:54
Written by Italics on 25.10.2012 at 20:03
If it's true that his last album was the most successful one he's had yet, I highly doubt he's "losing it." Granted, I'm not a big fan of any Avantasia period, so who knows.
So... Music < Fame?
No, just saying, if his last album was the most commercially/financially successful the band has had yet, I think it's unfair to make the assessment that they are losing their magic or ability to write appealing music. But he never defined "most successful," so it's hard to say for sure.
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Written by Italics on 27.10.2012 at 07:21
No, just saying, if his last album was the most commercially/financially successful the band has had yet, I think it's unfair to make the assessment that they are losing their magic or ability to write appealing music. But he never defined "most successful," so it's hard to say for sure.
Again, as someone else here identified, this is what I'm now dubbing the "Justin Bieber argument." Album sales mean absolutely nothing. That's a moot point and those that take metal with an iota of seriousness, logic and understanding know that. The vast majority of metal bands become more "successful" (i.e. sell more records and become better known) as their career progresses and they make more albums and tour more, and in a huge percentage of the time as their music becomes more accessible (not "better," the two are not explicitly related as much as you try to argue the point. Never has been, never will be). There are exceptions to this rule, but they are infrequent variables. Avantastia are effectively pop-metal. Their music requires little thought because, like other bands in the genre (and pop), they extol over the top melody over anything else which is what the masses are used to (hence "pop" = popular). That's why records get shifted in large numbers and will continue to do so as long as said band continues to make the same kind of music. Ultimately: appealing = popular and easily digestible. Nothing to do with magic. This isn't a judgement by the way, this is logical observation.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 27.10.2012 at 07:50
Written by Italics on 27.10.2012 at 07:21
No, just saying, if his last album was the most commercially/financially successful the band has had yet, I think it's unfair to make the assessment that they are losing their magic or ability to write appealing music. But he never defined "most successful," so it's hard to say for sure.
Again, as someone else here identified, this is what I'm now dubbing the "Justin Bieber argument." Album sales mean absolutely nothing. That's a moot point and those that take metal with an iota of seriousness, logic and understanding know that. The vast majority of metal bands become more "successful" (i.e. sell more records and become better known) as their career progresses and they make more albums and tour more, and in a huge percentage of the time as their music becomes more accessible (not "better," the two are not explicitly related as much as you try to argue the point. Never has been, never will be). There are exceptions to this rule, but they are infrequent variables. Avantastia are effectively pop-metal. Their music requires little thought because, like other bands in the genre (and pop), they extol over the top melody over anything else which is what the masses are used to (hence "pop" = popular). That's why records get shifted in large numbers and will continue to do so as long as said band continues to make the same kind of music. Ultimately: appealing = popular and easily digestible. Nothing to do with magic. This isn't a judgement by the way, this is logical observation.
If the last Avantasia album was their most successful yet, it's incorrect/unfair to say that they're "losing it." Plain and simple.
PS - I'm flattered that you still obsess over me and my posts =)
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It's not that, it's more that I obsess over correcting that which is obviously wrong I like to educate people. Even when they substitute good argument with lowbrow cop-out responses such as "plain and simple," I still get satisfaction from my own level of understanding. Keep it up sugar, I enjoy our tete-a-tete
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