Maco Pvt Funderground
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For shit like this I hate pyrotechnics... one thing goes wrong and you will regret it for the rest of your life....
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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R.I.P. its sad, indeed and pyro must be banned, and this is why I never sit or stand near stage . pyro must be banned, specially from concerts, footy stadiums and sport events as well.
James Hadfield burned hus beard and hair once... pyro sucks ,
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Darko
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RIP for all the victims.Sadly,also one of the guitarits of the band that was on the stage lost his life and other members were injured in the accident.
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knightlightning
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Written by Bad English on 31.10.2015 at 18:56
R.I.P. its sad, indeed and pyro must be banned, and this is why I never sit or stand near stage . pyro must be banned, specially from concerts, footy stadiums and sport events as well.
James Hadfield burned hus beard and hair once... pyro sucks ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGzxGJt2Io
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Some eyewitnesses say that the "pyrotechnics" were mild more like the type you would put on your kid's birthday cake. As soon as the polystyrene wall (used for better room acoustic) caught fire, the singer joked "That wasn't in the program", and as soon as he saw that the situation was serious, he asked for a fire extinguisher that never came. Soon, the whole roof caught fire and started falling.
Two members, Vlad Țelea and Mihai Alexandru (R.I.P.), the guitarists, died during the incident.
More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colectiv_nightclub_fire
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It is rumored that hospitals were overcrowded, which lead some to speculate that in the event of another earthquake like the one in 1977 where about 1400 people died in Bucharest, we are quite fucked. This also lead some to blame the state for investing too much in churches and megalithic cathedrals instead of hospitals.
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Also lots of conspiracy theories ranging from the 666th Halloween, to the band having Goodbye in its name and being satanists and supposingly playing this song as the incident happened:
Also some "people" are happy that it happened since they consider the victims satanists as they were rockers. This also includes some celebrities like Ozana Barabancea.
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Aftermath picture (extremely NSFW, not for the faint of heart and the weak of stomach):
here
and here
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LeChron James Helvetesfossen
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I think pyrotechnics should still be allowed at shows, just not in super confined spaces with low ceilings or with flammable shit around the display (curtains, etc.). Outdoor pyrotechnics are usually trouble free if they're handled by professionals and not half drunk stage crew haha.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15303 |
Agree. it is horrible, but this shit continues. horrible for those who died or lost loved ones.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by LeChron James on 31.10.2015 at 23:13
I think pyrotechnics should still be allowed at shows, just not in super confined spaces with low ceilings or with flammable shit around the display (curtains, etc.). Outdoor pyrotechnics are usually trouble free if they're handled by professionals and not half drunk stage crew haha.
I think it was in Riga when Rammstein plaid, Fire Fighers did not let use pryo because there was some huge water leak in pipes and they said they have no preasure for use water, and they banned pyro
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by [user id=142921] on 01.11.2015 at 03:19
Written by Bad English on 31.10.2015 at 18:56
R.I.P. its sad, indeed and pyro must be banned, and this is why I never sit or stand near stage . pyro must be banned, specially from concerts, footy stadiums and sport events as well.
James Hadfield burned hus beard and hair once... pyro sucks ,
I'm gonna be devil's advocate here. You have a higher chance of getting run over on the way to the gig as is. Judging from the pictures this seems to have spawned out of ineptitude more than anything else. Look at how low the roof is and all the polyester foam. It sucks people lost their lives but that's why pyrotechnics require the utmost of care, planning and knowledge.
Itspanic, that's why ppl should do military service where drill instructor screams and shoots whit machine gun when they do tranches
ppl die in panic, many in fire and so on ppl will di in panic, make error, and get pushed
I had been stacked one between folks in a fest. it was such preasure I could not bread, anyway water bucket and now this is why I never stand in a frond, don't like it
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Written by [user id=142921] on 01.11.2015 at 03:57
Written by Bad English on 01.11.2015 at 03:34
Itspanic, that's why ppl should do military service where drill instructor screams and shoots whit machine gun when they do tranches
ppl die in panic, many in fire and so on ppl will di in panic, make error, and get pushed
I had been stacked one between folks in a fest. it was such preasure I could not bread, anyway water bucket and now this is why I never stand in a frond, don't like it
Ye panic is just a by-product of fear that can worsen the situation. Generally speaking (and applicable to this situation based on the photos) I think it's wrong to blame the device but more the people planning and manning the device.
Noting that no fire extinguishers were used, either because they weren't any or because they didn't get to use them in time. Either way, the club wasn't prepared for this. Also, there was only one exit/entrance.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Radu - then club owner violate rules, those shits should be in every such place and it can be fine even if explaration date is old
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Have yet to hear any official statement from either the club owner or the band (maybe they're dead or in the hospital so that explains it) but some rumours say that the owner is behind bars or at least will be for a long time.
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LeChron James Helvetesfossen
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Written by Bad English on 01.11.2015 at 03:32
I think it was in Riga when Rammstein plaid, Fire Fighers did not let use pryo because there was some huge water leak in pipes and they said they have no preasure for use water, and they banned pyro
Indoor fireworks are never a good choice. Fuck the venue. There were equally terrible pictures preceding that awful Brazilian night club fire. AND ALL OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
I think if you're going to house (a) band(s), employ someone who knows how fire works
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by LeChron James on 01.11.2015 at 13:02
Written by Bad English on 01.11.2015 at 03:32
I think it was in Riga when Rammstein plaid, Fire Fighers did not let use pryo because there was some huge water leak in pipes and they said they have no preasure for use water, and they banned pyro
Indoor fireworks are never a good choice. Fuck the venue. There were equally terrible pictures preceding that awful Brazilian night club fire. AND ALL OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
I think if you're going to house (a) band(s), employ someone who knows how fire works
Well image you burn down super expensive venue , hmm Madison Square Garden ...
Brazil, Asia, its not Western world, corruption, safety don't matter there, look how they drive, just like driving rules wont exist , same goes there, even Romania is in EU. I think they didn't follow safety rules, like nothing happens, never have and never will,
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Valentin B Iconoclast
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It was absolutely horrible and shocking that from a simple sparks effect like that the entire club caught fire in less than half a minute according to the eyewitnesses. It's unbelievable also for me knowing that I have played in even worse clubs, fortunately without any pyrotechnics but I don't even want to know what kind of situations we could have faced because of the club owners not following the law: fire, earthquake, asphyxiation, blackouts, collapses, electrocution, the list is simply too long...
Btw if you want to blame the band for this incident, you should know that both guitarists have passed away and the rest of the bandmembers are in a critical state in the hospital...
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Valentin B on 02.11.2015 at 20:20
It was absolutely horrible and shocking that from a simple sparks effect like that the entire club caught fire in less than half a minute according to the eyewitnesses. It's unbelievable also for me knowing that I have played in even worse clubs, fortunately without any pyrotechnics but I don't even want to know what kind of situations we could have faced because of the club owners not following the law: fire, earthquake, asphyxiation, blackouts, collapses, electrocution, the list is simply too long...
Btw if you want to blame the band for this incident, you should know that both guitarists have passed away and the rest of the bandmembers are in a critical state in the hospital...
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It wont happen in Sweden, clubs be closed, seems E and W Europe still can be dealed in political way, sad.
I heard one fire exit was closed and now club owners and some state officials are accused whit murder
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Valentin B Iconoclast
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Written by Bad English on 03.11.2015 at 11:49
Written by Valentin B on 02.11.2015 at 20:20
It was absolutely horrible and shocking that from a simple sparks effect like that the entire club caught fire in less than half a minute according to the eyewitnesses. It's unbelievable also for me knowing that I have played in even worse clubs, fortunately without any pyrotechnics but I don't even want to know what kind of situations we could have faced because of the club owners not following the law: fire, earthquake, asphyxiation, blackouts, collapses, electrocution, the list is simply too long...
Btw if you want to blame the band for this incident, you should know that both guitarists have passed away and the rest of the bandmembers are in a critical state in the hospital...
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we don't need tragic events to happen that you come back to this site, aka home
It wont happen in Sweden, clubs be closed, seems E and W Europe still can be dealed in political way, sad.
I heard one fire exit was closed and now club owners and some state officials are accused whit murder
I'm not logging in just for this man... in any case, it seems some issues are beginning to be solved in Romania, there have been quite a few resignations over failing to prevent this tragedy, but it won't solve everything, let's say the problem lies within us all, on how the Romanian style is synonim with "ah, it'll work like this too", meaning that you can tolerate corruption, incompetence, lack of safety, and generally risk your wellbeing and others' wellbeing, as long as it saves you a momentary bureaucratic or procedural headache
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Valentin B on 05.11.2015 at 09:33
I'm not logging in just for this man... in any case, it seems some issues are beginning to be solved in Romania, there have been quite a few resignations over failing to prevent this tragedy, but it won't solve everything, let's say the problem lies within us all, on how the Romanian style is synonim with "ah, it'll work like this too", meaning that you can tolerate corruption, incompetence, lack of safety, and generally risk your wellbeing and others' wellbeing, as long as it saves you a momentary bureaucratic or procedural headache
you should remember roots, live here post and listen more metal
I know what you mean, seems 60 years in occupation ruined all E Europe, only Estonia is as it is. Scandinavian
Lv had same but in last 2 years when fackatards non existing nation as Luhanskains and Doneckians start to messing up, finally our state to think properly, fuck sake why Eesto has defense budget 2% . why we can not, well it will be in 2018 but I say it must be 5%
Anyway I don't like when minister steps down, can happen everywhere wven in Sweden, but if exit doors be marked, open, fire extindishers would work, it would be less damage
btw is there official list source that Adrian Rugina from Bucium died?
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Some other small updates:
1. The death toll has risen to 32.
2. 25 thousand people were protesting y-day in Bucharest only. Over 50 thousand at national level.
3. Apparently, the pyrotech was handled by a professional, but it seems like they screwed up. One of them is safe, the other one is injured and in hospital.
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MuchaMagia
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Something similar happened here, in Argentina, in 2004. 194 people were killed . The band "Callejeros" ("Street Guys") ended up in jail and the government never stood up for corruption.
Here 's the story in English.
Don't use pyrotechnic indoors please.
PD: If something does not understand it is the fault of Google Translate.
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WorpeX Made of Metal
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Written by RaduP on 31.10.2015 at 23:00
Also lots of conspiracy theories ranging from the 666th Halloween, to the band having Goodbye in its name and being satanists and supposingly playing this song as the incident happened:
Also some "people" are happy that it happened since they consider the victims satanists as they were rockers. This also includes some celebrities like Ozana Barabancea.
I really enjoyed that song. Awful way to discover a band though, the whole incident is very tragic. RIP to those that lost their lives and I hope everyone who is still in critical condition survives.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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A new update, the death toll rose to 38. 6 more people died today.
Edit: Actually 39.
Edit 2: Now 41. 9 people died today only.
Edit 3: 45 now. The Goodbye to Gravity drummer died of heart failure moments ago while he was being transported to a hospital in Switzerland.
Edit 4: 47 dead as of today, November 9th. Seems like most of the injured are not dying because of the burns, but because they had a huge concentration of CO2 and hydrogen cyanide in their bodies beyond the lethal dose. Think about it... if even people that suffered minor to no injury are returning to the hospital with breathing problems, then the situation of those in critical condition must be awful.
Edit 5: 50 dead since November 11th.
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