Nowadays it seems that ppl - so called metal heads - are really tired of listening to new albums by old bands. As I can see, 90% of metal heads are against new released albums in metal forums. There are very less ppl who come and say "yes it is a good album" (Derozzengarten ?). Except some rare cases ppl hate new albums I dont know why. Maybe ppl think that after almost 40 years Metal music should still be underground, Im here to say that "no, change your mind", now almost all of villagers know about rock and metal too. Nortt is not an underground music for me or not even Silencer, if you want to hide and isolate yourself and scream that "IM DIFFERENT", go and do it. You dont need metal music to say or show it I think. But if you want to say Im especial because I know a lot of bands who you dont know them yet then go to a good psychologist IMO.

If someone cant see good things in new albums (I dont mean none famous bands which ONLY YOU discover them ), I think they are really tired of metal and unfortunately I think you are who weakens metal music nowadays. If you dont like a band or dont like their new stuff or new album thats really ok. But whats your goal by spaming threads or writing despiteful reviews over and over again?

What do you think of these ppl who want to say "we are different because we heard almost all metal albums and we are especial because when you look at our favorite band list in MS you will see names which you never heard them yet". If you ask them "why?" they would probably answer "because we want to make them famous and maybe ppl bought their albums, we want to help them because we like them "(not love them because they love some famous bands which they will kill themselves to see them live in fests but not for these which they mentioned in their favorite band list!) Then when they become a little famous these are the same ppl who erase them from their favorite band lists and start to criticize them.

Another question is how the fuck you listen to a lot of albums?! I cant understand it when I see someone has heard almost all of the new albums of the year (or maybe they pretend it). I think you have to listen to each album at least 5 times to talk about it but a lot of them after half a round come and say this is bullshit, maybe they are wizards or maybe Experts.

What do you think about these ppl and if you are one of them plz enlighten us maybe one day we would be experts like you and hate a lot of good metal albums!

But for me myself Im really really sick of them.

I think it's because a lot of old bands have simply been declining in quality, or people get tired of the music and constant praise. Personally, all three match when it comes to Metallica for me.

Well 90% yes I cant get in new albums from old bands, but there is also good once, hmmm Ac/Dc for example. generaly more good albums be if band dont change style dont go pop and some other way, for example like Katatonia did, generaly I listen mainly old albums from band, and prefere it better and there many good muisc so I wont die if I wont hear new Slayer or whatever, ok I listen new albums(downloadet) but if I dont like it I wont listenb it again, there many good muisc what I like so I dont feel need buy newest staff... I know I aint no cool at all but who cares anyway ,

Written by Bad English on 24.09.2010 at 18:40

Well 90% yes I cant get in new albums from old bands, but there is also good once, hmmm Ac/Dc for example. generaly more good albums be if band dont change style dont go pop and some other way, for example like Katatonia did, generaly I listen mainly old albums from band, and prefere it better and there many good muisc so I wont die if I wont hear new Slayer or whatever, ok I listen new albums(downloadet) but if I dont like it I wont listenb it again, there many good muisc what I like so I dont feel need buy newest staff... I know I aint no cool at all but who cares anyway ,

I understand you but for example Burzum, is new album a pop album or changing the style? or for example Immortal? Today I saw someone's quote about Immortal who said that they are mainstream nowadays! lol its a little weird for me

Written by Elyar S. on 24.09.2010 at 18:46

Written by Bad English on 24.09.2010 at 18:40

Well 90% yes I cant get in new albums from old bands, but there is also good once, hmmm Ac/Dc for example. generaly more good albums be if band dont change style dont go pop and some other way, for example like Katatonia did, generaly I listen mainly old albums from band, and prefere it better and there many good muisc so I wont die if I wont hear new Slayer or whatever, ok I listen new albums(downloadet) but if I dont like it I wont listenb it again, there many good muisc what I like so I dont feel need buy newest staff... I know I aint no cool at all but who cares anyway ,

I understand you but for example Burzum, is new album a pop album or changing the style? or for example Immortal? Today I saw someone's quote about Immortal who said that they are mainstream nowadays! lol its a little weird for me

new Immortal kick ass and I enjoy it but still I miss old once, seems ppl can criate at age 18-25, but still Immortal belongs to cathegory who's albums ate awesome, like I told there is some ,

Quote:
Today I saw someone's quote about Immortal who said that they are mainstream nowadays!

Lol if Immortal are mainstream, then Robbie Willams music is pure Brutal Death Metal

I dont have problems with new albums in general...just with those that really suck...but i am definitely not judging according to the release year...you guys around here do?

Ancient, old, new, modern as long as the music is good i'm in

Written by Ellrohir on 24.09.2010 at 20:17

I dont have problems with new albums in general...

same here but Im sceptic to it since many bands newest are let down, dunno but simply I dont wate new album how I wate new day, agme etc, because if album be good its be good, and also there many old bands who's old album are bad to, but like somesaid, if muisc is good, no metter old or new

I won't deny there aren't people who judge albums by the year they were released in, but i don't think that is the biggest factor.

i've seen this with Judas Priest's last album. people were sometimes apalled by the incredibly long duration of the album and some just simply said "they're getting old, they've been sucking since Jugulator" or stuff like that. there is of course the reverse, saying stuff like "omg this is a modern classic!"

i personally enjoy a great deal of new albums by (very) old bands- The Devil You Know, Death Magnetic, Angel of Retribution, The System Has Failed, Blood of the Nations, Ironbound, A Matter of Life and Death, Death Magic Doom and a few others i can't recall right now.

in cases when i don't like a bands new album(Megadeth's Endgame for example) it simply means it just doesn't work for me.

They will always be people who want to pretend they are special and so they will diss every band that is even slightly famous and listen to some underground grindcore one-man project from Africa! I personally like a lot of new albums by old bands including "Black Ice", "A matter of life and death", "A sense of purpose", "Belus". The only big dissapointment is "Death Magnetic"!

Written by Valentin B on 25.09.2010 at 20:19

I won't deny there aren't people who judge albums by the year they were released in, but i don't think that is the biggest factor.

i've seen this with Judas Priest's last album. people were sometimes apalled by the incredibly long duration of the album and some just simply said "they're getting old, they've been sucking since Jugulator" or stuff like that. there is of course the reverse, saying stuff like "omg this is a modern classic!"

i personally enjoy a great deal of new albums by (very) old bands- The Devil You Know, Death Magnetic, Angel of Retribution, The System Has Failed, Blood of the Nations, Ironbound, A Matter of Life and Death, Death Magic Doom and a few others i can't recall right now.

in cases when i don't like a bands new album(Megadeth's Endgame for example) it simply means it just doesn't work for me.

Not all old albums was good, but many bands was young, came into scenee at 70's 80's and actualy age is important and money to, somehow when record co.s force you to do it wont be good album, it shood be criated when you have insipration , not when someone ask you and bands somehow geting older cant do it so good, but Megadeth last 2 before even last 3 before End Game sucked and thay were new album beck than so ....

For me problem is not that you cant love a new album by an old band, the problem is people who cant enjoy new shit. Not new Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Haggard, Theiron, Dimmu Borgir, Immortal, Danzig, Megadeth, My Dying Bride, Anathema, Paradise Lost, Moonspell, Opeth and ... etc. For example I dont like new album by Anathema, I dont think that its a problem but when someone is sick of them all (almost), it means he/she is retired.

Written by Valentin B on 25.09.2010 at 20:19

I won't deny there aren't people who judge albums by the year they were released in, but i don't think that is the biggest factor.

i've seen this with Judas Priest's last album. people were sometimes apalled by the incredibly long duration of the album and some just simply said "they're getting old, they've been sucking since Jugulator" or stuff like that. there is of course the reverse, saying stuff like "omg this is a modern classic!"

i personally enjoy a great deal of new albums by (very) old bands- The Devil You Know, Death Magnetic, Angel of Retribution, The System Has Failed, Blood of the Nations, Ironbound, A Matter of Life and Death, Death Magic Doom and a few others i can't recall right now.

in cases when i don't like a bands new album(Megadeth's Endgame for example) it simply means it just doesn't work for me.

This is how I feel about the issue too.

Yep, to me the only factor that matters, is whether I like the music or not. I never go into listening to something with pre-conceptions/bias about it, or "knowing" its good or rubbish before Ive even listened to it. I love a lot of later albums by old bands. I dont think how old or new a band is should play any factor in how an album is judged. As for production, I agree partly. There are some old albums, particularly in extreme metal genres, where the production is so bad, its virtually impossible to hear the individual riffs. (Carcass' "Reek Of Putrefaction" is a classic example of this.) There's no reason why an album with such production should be produced again nowadays. Then again, sometimes a modern production can stifle the songs, and take some of their soul away. Now, this isnt criticising all modern production, because like you say, there is a lot of positives about it. But just because a production is modern, doesnt necessarily mean it'll be good, because sometimes it's not.

Why lots of people dislike new albums from old bands?

Many reasons:

1) With most of these bands, the musical quality started to decline long ago, never recovered and never will recover

2) Lots of these old bands have been dead for years, even decades, creativity-wise, and only stick to the scene for monetary reasons while they have nothing good or original to offer. Others have been inactive for the entire 90s and come out of the closet suddenly (something I find pathetic). Where were they during all those years? Why are they coming back now? (most likely because they ran out of money to pay for their heavy drug addiction)

3) There's an overall issue with production that plagues every metal genre, apart from Black Metal (though even BM is not entirely untouched by it). Metal albums often don't sound genuine and made on real instruments nowadays. Production is sterile, overpolished, synthesized, electronic, etc. In lots of cases, music could be enjoyable, would it be produced and mixed differently but the actual production kills any kind of feeling. Thus, tons of metal albums are utterly boring and bland.
I wonder when producers, sound engineers or whatever, will understand that metal is not pop and not supposed to sound like pop. Metal is not made to sound 'too good'.

4) Lots of old bands have made a drastic change of style, so it's normal if many old fans dislike the new stuff. If the band started with the music they're doing now, those old fans would never have become fans of this band in the first place.

5) More and more people are getting sick of hearing about bands like Metallica, who got way too many attention from medias since years and years. It's annoying, especially if you never liked the band much right from the start or if you think their new material sucks.
I know it is not necessarily a musical-related issue but it plays a role in the overall picture by adding to the annoyance if you dislike the music.

6) It might be my personal opinion but I have a feeling lots of metal bands are getting more and more commercial nowadays, water down their music and make lots of lame commercial moves you would not have seen in the 90s. I think metal starts to meddle too much with the mainstream and I consider it as a serious threat for its survival and artistic quality in the long run. I'm afraid metal could be victim of the 'corporate grinder' in the long run. For example, it already destroyed the Power/Speed Metal genre, which has been replaced by flowermetal.
I know some people will always try to deny this commercialisation and watering down of metal but listen to old metal albums and new ones from the same band. The older albums are nearly always heavier, faster, more memorable and don't sound overproduced.

Conclusion: I still like metal very much but, to tell the truth, I really struggle with new albums. I bought only a handful of albums this year. My general feeling towards metal is it has no soul nowadays. As much as my comments can be sharp, I don't post them out of pure hate but because I really care for metal. I think metal in general is taking the wrong turn and I see it as a serious threat for its future. Metal and mainstream don't work together and if both of them are mixed too much, metal will unavoidably loose. We already see the result of this mixing by having more and more sellout bands/musicians who are not here to make metal progress or improve the musical quality and are ready to sell their ass anytime. And, since I've been following metal since the early 80s, I can tell that there is a change in the metal fanbase too. We see more and more of those people who believe that metal should become mainstream and who praise commercial moves from bands. I would say a significant part of people I encounter on metal boards believe they are metal fans but they have quite of a mainstream mentality.

Written by RavenKing on 25.09.2010 at 23:58

Why lots of people dislike new albums from old bands?

Many reasons:

1) With most of these bands, the musical quality started to decline long ago, never recovered and never will recover

2) Lots of these old bands have been dead for years, even decades, creativity-wise, and only stick to the scene for monetary reasons while they have nothing good or original to offer. Others have been inactive for the entire 90s and come out of the closet suddenly (something I find pathetic). Where were they during all those years? Why are they coming back now? (most likely because they ran out of money to pay for their heavy drug addiction)

3) There's an overall issue with production that plagues every metal genre, apart from Black Metal (though even BM is not entirely untouched by it). Metal albums often don't sound genuine and made on real instruments nowadays. Production is sterile, overpolished, synthesized, electronic, etc. In lots of cases, music could be enjoyable, would it be produced and mixed differently but the actual production kills any kind of feeling. Thus, tons of metal albums are utterly boring and bland.
I wonder when producers, sound engineers or whatever, will understand that metal is not pop and not supposed to sound like pop. Metal is not made to sound 'too good'.

4) Lots of old bands have made a drastic change of style, so it's normal if many old fans dislike the new stuff. If the band started with the music they're doing now, those old fans would never have become fans of this band in the first place.

5) More and more people are getting sick of hearing about bands like Metallica, who got way too many attention from medias since years and years. It's annoying, especially if you never liked the band much right from the start or if you think their new material sucks.
I know it is not necessarily a musical-related issue but it plays a role in the overall picture by adding to the annoyance if you dislike the music.

6) It might be my personal opinion but I have a feeling lots of metal bands are getting more and more commercial nowadays, water down their music and make lots of lame commercial moves you would not have seen in the 90s. I think metal starts to meddle too much with the mainstream and I consider it as a serious threat for its survival and artistic quality in the long run. I'm afraid metal could be victim of the 'corporate grinder' in the long run. For example, it already destroyed the Power/Speed Metal genre, which has been replaced by flowermetal.
I know some people will always try to deny this commercialisation and watering down of metal but listen to old metal albums and new ones from the same band. The older albums are nearly always heavier, faster, more memorable and don't sound overproduced.

Conclusion: I still like metal very much but, to tell the truth, I really struggle with new albums. I bought only a handful of albums this year. My general feeling towards metal is it has no soul nowadays. As much as my comments can be sharp, I don't post them out of pure hate but because I really care for metal. I think metal in general is taking the wrong turn and I see it as a serious threat for its future. Metal and mainstream don't work together and if both of them are mixed too much, metal will unavoidably loose. We already see the result of this mixing by having more and more sellout bands/musicians who are not here to make metal progress or improve the musical quality and are ready to sell their ass anytime. And, since I've been following metal since the early 80s, I can tell that there is a change in the metal fanbase too. We see more and more of those people who believe that metal should become mainstream and who praise commercial moves from bands. I would say a significant part of people I encounter on metal boards believe they are metal fans but they have quite of a mainstream mentality.

just one answer for you, now you are not the kid who heard metal things 10 or 20 years ago. Now you are addicted to metal and now it doesnt sound like those days for you. Now you cant feel how good is "Belus" or "All Shall Fall" (for example). We want to be socked, we want to be confused but we cant because we are confused enough! But sometimes I can feel that way nowadays too. I love it when I got goose bumps when I hear some new stuff, you know what I mean?, Im happy for that. Im happy when I can feel the fucking aggression of for example Broken Beat and Scared by Metallica or a cool song like Stormy Mayday by AC/DC. I dont say all of them give nice works but your words were so Despiteful of it you didnt mean that, I have to say that you cant enjoy them because you are full of them. You need new blood you are tired of News and MTV and stuff, you want metal to be underground as I said and as you was agree with it in your post, but its absolutely wrong because you cant stop ppl to enjoy metal music, You cant say Slayer had 100,000 fans in 1983 so why they have 10 million fans today (just a guess). It is just normal I think and it doesnt have nothing with mainstream or anything like it. Its because now world rounds with communications and stuff, now there are some ppl who buy albums from maybe South Polar through internet, so what?

"We are the nobodies, Wanna be somebodies, WE ARE DEAD. We know just who we are"

Raven King --- Disagree whit Nt 2, ok same time agree, but many bands from 80's like Testament, Megadeth who last albums(not last one but some 1997-2005 era) was werry bad, even thay played all time.
Alos for example band X 1990-1992 realised 2 awesome metal killers, but than split up and re cord at 2009 and all the time was away from metal and simply forced criate something because need money etc.... thay will suck, to realise good metal album. you shood be into metal, live into metal not only wear Hawaii beach t shirt and listen salse muwsic under a palm where hawaii dancers do blowjobs.
You shood be into metal, like Im into metalstorm evvery day every hour.

3 and 4 yes real instruments, also wires for soun for guitar like old days not nowdays that shit what thay use to transmit a sound, and sound changing well, I agree new Anathema, Kataonia, Guns n Roses whatever , totaly sucks, sound changing, sohn more pop, modern, metal never be modern, its be outlaw

Comercal metal, blame flower bands who start wear suits n ties into metal

@RavenKing
I hope that everyone on this site reads that post of yours, because it's a perfect explanation of why newer albums are being dissed.
Older bands ran out of ideas, newer bands are motivated by money rather than desire to make good music. Besides, the number of different riffs, melodies, ideas and whatnot that can be called good is limited, and metal as we know it today has been around for 30 and some years. The ocean of creativity is drying up, and fast.

Written by Slayer666 on 26.09.2010 at 20:34

@RavenKing
I hope that everyone on this site reads that post of yours, because it's a perfect explanation of why newer albums are being dissed.
Older bands ran out of ideas, newer bands are motivated by money rather than desire to make good music. Besides, the number of different riffs, melodies, ideas and whatnot that can be called good is limited, and metal as we know it today has been around for 30 and some years. The ocean of creativity is drying up, and fast.

Not all bands, IMO mistace is go progress way, what would hepen if Ac/Fc would go to progress way , ok playing one accord prinitive muisc, one day you go out of ideas, but still its much better stay to roots , fin accords, lyrics will come leither, not experment whit shit

Written by Bad English on 26.09.2010 at 20:40

Written by Slayer666 on 26.09.2010 at 20:34

@RavenKing
I hope that everyone on this site reads that post of yours, because it's a perfect explanation of why newer albums are being dissed.
Older bands ran out of ideas, newer bands are motivated by money rather than desire to make good music. Besides, the number of different riffs, melodies, ideas and whatnot that can be called good is limited, and metal as we know it today has been around for 30 and some years. The ocean of creativity is drying up, and fast.

Not all bands, IMO mistace is go progress way, what would hepen if Ac/Fc would go to progress way , ok playing one accord prinitive muisc, one day you go out of ideas, but still its much better stay to roots , fin accords, lyrics will come leither, not experment whit shit

Honestly dude, deciphering your posts is truly a painful process.
Well, it depends if the band is up to it or not. Some of the worst albums in metal are a result of failed experimentation, while some brilliant ones are just the opposite. Some bands take risks and it pays off, some bands take risks and it swats them right back in their face.

Because generally these bands are putting out shit, pure and simple. Basically it seems like these bands are trying to stay relevant which is something rarely achieved by old bands in metal. For the most part it's a young people's music, and these bands keep trying to update their sound to accommodate the young crowd without any realization that they are loved for the classics, not trying to stay hip.

That and a band sounds most genuine and passionate within their first couple albums, because they're still struggling and hungry as fuck.

Written by Slayer666 on 26.09.2010 at 20:34

@RavenKing
I hope that everyone on this site reads that post of yours, because it's a perfect explanation of why newer albums are being dissed.
Older bands ran out of ideas, newer bands are motivated by money rather than desire to make good music. Besides, the number of different riffs, melodies, ideas and whatnot that can be called good is limited, and metal as we know it today has been around for 30 and some years. The ocean of creativity is drying up, and fast.

Thanks for the compliment. Sad thing is lots of people still deny this general commercialisation of metal and seem oblivious to the way metal starts to meddle with the mainstream more and more.

Of course many will blame me and accuse me of close-mindedness, elitism or whatever. I always defended the idea that metal is made to be underground to a certain extent and that it should not meddle with the mainstream, otherwise the metal scene will become as lame as the pop scene. The only way to protect and ensure the artistic value of metal and a high quality standard is to stay as far away from the mainstream as possible. If metal meddles too much with the mainstream, it will be absorbed and consumed. It will cease to exist. Metal is way too small to meddle with the mainstream and still keep its identity. The bigger one always wins in a situation such as this one. It's like a billionary holding buying a small factory.

I'm 200% convinced of what I'm saying here and no one will ever make me change my mind. I've been bashed and insulted countless times in the past for defending my point of view on this matter but it never made me shut up and I'm still here today to defend my opinion on metal vs mainstream. Why am I doing so? Because I really care for metal and don't want to see the day it will be destroyed by the capitalist industry. Some people simply don't want to accept reality as it is or don't understand the situation. It's not a matter of elitism but of survival of the entire metal genre in the long run. If metal corporates itself too much, it will die in the end. I have this certainty and those who believe there is no problem with metal going more and more mainstream could have all the leisure to realize their mistake one day. But let's hope this day will never happen.
It's my opinion that those people failed to understand the first thing about metal. They might like the music but they don't understand anything about metal from a cultural standpoint.

EDIT: If you want to measure how the metal fanbase changed and how mainstream ideas are common nowadays, think about this. Celtic Frost died because of the glam turn they took on "Cold Lake" (they came back years later but it's a different story). Helloween was pretty much dead when Deris joined their ranks, because of "Chameleon". Metal fans simply didn't accept such commercialisation back then. What will happen if bands are doing the same kind of move now? You will find lots of people to praise it, pretend it's evolution and say the new style is better. That's exactly what happens with Edguy, for example.
This mentality belongs to the mainstream, not to a true metalhead.

Written by Doc G. on 26.09.2010 at 23:56

Because generally these bands are putting out shit, pure and simple. Basically it seems like these bands are trying to stay relevant which is something rarely achieved by old bands in metal.

And it all comes back to my opinion that many old 80s metal bands are outdated and should have called a quit long ago, leaving the chance to younger and better bands to hog the spotlight.

Who can't enjoy new albums by old bands?

it all depends upon the band and the album... Heathen is old, sounded great. Overkill, Exodus also put out some good material this year. They are older than most the people responding here.

i think the bigger issue is morons around here like to attribute their own reasons as to why people do or don't like albums. they just assume that someone doesn't like something because it's "a new album by an old band" or "it's not cool to like subgenre x" or what have you.

Written by BitterCOld on 27.09.2010 at 01:07

i think the bigger issue is morons around here like to attribute their own reasons as to why people do or don't like albums. they just assume that someone doesn't like something because it's "a new album by an old band" or "it's not cool to like subgenre x" or what have you.

Totally agreed. How many of them are saying things like "of course, it's cool hating on x band"?
As if it's the true reason and we can't dislike an album simply because we think the music sucks.
Just one more example of the way fanboyism can be expressed.

Written by BitterCOld on 27.09.2010 at 01:07

Who can't enjoy new albums by old bands?

it all depends upon the band and the album... Heathen is old, sounded great. Overkill, Exodus also put out some good material this year. They are older than most the people responding here.

i think the bigger issue is morons around here like to attribute their own reasons as to why people do or don't like albums. they just assume that someone doesn't like something because it's "a new album by an old band" or "it's not cool to like subgenre x" or what have you.

Like I always say, whether someone likes or hates an album, whether its by an old or new band is purely down to personal preference and opinion.

As for your last point, there are always idiots who will challenge the validity of people's opinions on certains bands/albums. If you praise an album by an old and/or popular band, you're likely to be branded a blind fanboy for it by some quarters, just for liking it. Then on the other hand, if you bash an album by the same band, you'll be accused of trying to be "cool" by jumping on the bandwagon of bashing said band. Some people just cant accept that some people genuinely like/hate certain albums. There always has to be an exterior motive applied to it by some people. Of course, in some cases, an exterior motive is there, but in a lot of cases there isnt one. But certain people will always accuse you of having exterior motives, when it comes to praising or bashing an album by an old and/or popular band.

1 - REALITY, Fuck the facts is my answer! What is reality? your words? what you think is reality and what others think are bullshit? I dont think so, it depends on your personality and thoughts.

2 - Keep talking about UNDERGROUND, means we like to be especial forever? no we are not fucking special, we are equal to others. I dont want to be very special with listening to metal.

3 - A lot of famous bands release masterpieces or at least more than good albums nowadays: AC/DC, Metallica, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Obituary, Paradise Lost, Opeth, Dream Theater, Amon Amarth, Immortal, Burzum, Moonspell, Rammstein, Korpiklaani, Porcupine Tree, Satyricon, My Dying Bride, Draconian, Vader, Haggard, Rotting Christ, Ozzy Osbourne, Tiamat, Alice In Chains, Candlemass, Celtic Frost, W.A.S.P., Dark Funeral and ... etc.

I have to mention that Im not the fan of all these bands and in some cases I dont like their last albums but I respect a lot of others who love them. If I dont like it doesnt mean its bad, It means I dont like it, so simple.

4 - About Commercialism, Im agree and not. For example I want to talk about bands like Tiemat, Anathema (their last work was unbelievably bad for me), My Dying Bride who didnt make a music video for their work, so how can you point your finger at them and say they are commercial? or take a look at Danzig's last pure shit music video Commercial? well!

I have to tell you that metal wont be popular never, even after 1000 years, pop is pop and professional music is professional music. Metallica cant sell like Britney or Shakira or Katty Perry or ... etc.

Metal is not for just YOU, you cant tell ppl dont like Metal! and if they like it, it doesnt mean that its mainstream. But if you are talking about mainstream metal and you want to make Parties like Left and Right as in Politics and if you like to act like old kings who wanted to say there are some Specials and others are Generals, I have to say "its exactly what Metal music doeant need it".

Heavy metal or no metal at all, Whimps and Posers get out leave the hall.

Written by Elyar S. on 27.09.2010 at 01:33
If I dont like it doesnt mean its bad, It means I dont like it, so simple.

This is EXACTLY the way I think as well. If only everyone else had that same attitude, we'd never see all the ridiculous and childish bashing of people's opinions on albums that so many seem to enjoy partaking in,

Written by Elyar S. on 27.09.2010 at 01:33

Heavy metal or no metal at all, Whimps and Posers get out leave the hall.

This in itself is enough for me to not take your words seriously. If you fall into this trap set up by a poser commercial band like Manowar, if you can't see that it's just marketing thrown in to brainwash those who can't think by themselves and need to be part of the herd, you can't understand the metal vs mainstream issue.