angelofbland
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Very narrow minded review. You advise the band to write music your style.Who are you? The album is very good from all aspects and the end of Necropolis (which you criticize) is highly addictive.
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annodomini
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Totally disagree. This is the first KoK album, that I really dig and adore.
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Deadsoulman ElitePosts: 8004 |
Dude, you absolutely need to learn how to write objective reviews. How dare you state a subjective opinion, especially on an album you enjoyed less than some people?
Anyway, I haven't been flabbergasted by a KoK album since Armada, and this one is no exception. There's not enough variation or interesting moments to warrant such lengthy songs.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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I have to say that this review is kinda innapropriate... as for the album, there are bits and pieces I enjoy and bits of pieces that I find uninspired, but it certainly is not that bad. One thing is horrendous though... the production.
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Darkside Momo Retired ElitePosts: 9089 |
Written by Deadsoulman on 14.02.2015 at 15:22
Anyway, I haven't been flabbergasted by a KoK album since Armada, and this one is no exception. There's not enough variation or interesting moments to warrant such lengthy songs.
you filthy arse licker, how dare you even agree with the reviewer?
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 14.02.2015 at 15:49
I have to say that this review is kinda innapropriate...
How is the review inapropriate?
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
14.02.2015 - 18:04Rating: 6
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 14.02.2015 at 15:49
I have to say that this review is kinda innapropriate... as for the album, there are bits and pieces I enjoy and bits of pieces that I find uninspired, but it certainly is not that bad. One thing is horrendous though... the production.
how is it inappropriate. your opinion and mine seem mighty similar. there were bits I enjoyed - and acknowledged - there were a lot of bits i felt uninspired. 6.9 is not bad. it 0.1 ticks from "good". in MS land, 7 is good, 6 is average. 4 is bad.
and I couldn't call it "good", regardless as to how skilled the musicians are as it fails the one critical test. "When the album ends, do I wan to listen to it again?" The answer, from each of my first to 10th listens was, "no."
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MetalDoomMaster
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14.02.2015 - 18:41Rating: 6
Yeah, this album is incredibly underwhelming. Anyone that disagrees with the review should just write their own instead of whining.
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Vombatus Potorro
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Some riffs are very good, but that's about it. Typical album that falls into the "meh" category and is instantly forgotten.
The review is quite spot on, though I'd give a lower rating.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6099 |
14.02.2015 - 20:24Rating: 8
There's quite a lot of good stuff going on on the album, but as a whole it's lacking focus and discipline. Definitely a step down.
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gavrosaurus
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14.02.2015 - 22:42Rating: 8
Written by Daniell on 14.02.2015 at 20:24
lacking focus and discipline
Definitely!
All in all, I agree with BitterCOld, this band has a lot of potential (or HAD potential) but it is clear that something is missing ? Thebon.
Keep of Kalessin as a band needs another creative person, not just Obsidian C. and simply band lost its balance. Plain and simple.
A shame, because this was maybe the last great band of that mighty Nordic scene that gave us us so much joy over the past two decades.
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musclassia StaffPosts: 7621 |
A really well-written review that is far more 'appropriate' and not 'narrow-minded' than some of the first comments in response to it.
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
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Would the people above whine less if the rating was a 7? It's one motherfucking tenth of a point away. Everyone take a deep breath.
I agree with "doingly" and with the drums being weaksauce. I happen to really love the clean vocals, especially the creepy/folksy harmonies they sometimes create, but find they just clash so bitingly against the drums. Perhaps it's more production than performance, but I feel like during the first track I'm listening to two songs at once. Like, one songs with poorly recorded machine gun drums is playing on youtube in my browser while some really interesting folk metal is playing on itunes. Make it stop!!!
Well, it actually stopped. Things calmed down around the 5 minute mark. I suppose I'll continue listening...
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
15.02.2015 - 16:12Rating: 6
Written by Susan on 15.02.2015 at 07:51
Would the people above whine less if the rating was a 7? It's one motherfucking tenth of a point away. Everyone take a deep breath.
I agree with "doingly" and with the drums being weaksauce. Like, one songs with poorly recorded machine gun drums is playing on youtube in my browser while some really interesting folk metal is playing on itunes.
Well, it is MS, where to many a 7 is not just bad, but an insult to the artist (criticism I received on an earlier review... funny, as i scored another band a 7.2 and the guitarist who submitted the review responded by fb friending me) ... so anything sub 7 is like Lulu bad to a lot of peeps here.
the drums are horribly recorded. it's a travesty.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by BitterCOld on 15.02.2015 at 16:12
funny, as i scored another band a 7.2 and the guitarist who submitted the review responded by fb friending me) ...
But that was an old geezer, who's even a year older than me.
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
SusanSmegheadElitePosts: 6941
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.02.2015 at 16:58
Written by BitterCOld on 15.02.2015 at 16:12
funny, as i scored another band a 7.2 and the guitarist who submitted the review responded by fb friending me) ...
But that was an old geezer, who's even a year older than me.
Older than YOU????!!?!?! I don't believe it. Not possible!!!
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Litvin
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Not agree. The album is much above 6.9 points.
OK I am gonna write my own.
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MikeVonDoom
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Well basically Obsidian Claw sucks balls singing. Thebon's vocals are missing! The instrumental parts are good/enough as always.
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Karcas
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Althought i think that this review could be more objective, i dont think that you can ever have a completely non subjective opinion about anything specially on art and again specially on music.
so i think you can never trust any review without experiencing the music yourself. but you can find someone who has a very similar taste to you, and chances are that your opinion about an object has alot in common. hence systems such as metacritics and rating system should be considered very unreliable. there is only one rating system which is the personal one.
and why should anyone who disagrees with the review write another one himself ?!?!? its like saying if you dont like this music go and make your own music !! you can absolutely express your opinion about anything, including someone elses opinion.
those are my thoughts on replies to this review. but about the review and the album;
i kinda agree with most of the stuff said on the review and i can feel where its coming from except the part about the length of the songs, in which i think the length has nothing to do with the genre.
the repetition and being boring are another matter tho.
im a huge hugeeee fan of keep of kalessin and i find this album underwhelming. i was really curious about the band after Thebon left. in fact i thought the band was done for as i have known them along time and had seen Thebon performance and his passion. i think he was the heart of the band and the guitarist aka new frontman was the brains sort of say. i listened to their ep before this, it was different but was fine, and it was only an EP.
but this album as i suspected lacks the spirit, it lacks the magic. it is Keep of Kalessin, you can tell that, but its like a empty shell of it. the title song Epistemology is somewhat good imo. also the last two songs which have real potential are very short ! which is sad for me. the thing that i was afraid of happened to them without Thebon.
for me this is a mediocore borderline bad album compared to their previous stuff and very forgettable, but its still much better than alot of recent releases that have a very positive light on them here.
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser StaffPosts: 9718 |
Doc G.Full Grown HoserStaffPosts: 9718
Thoughts after a brief listen.
I'm somewhat in agreement with the review. Although I think I'll probably end up liking it more than the reviewer.
He really hit the nail on the head with this bit:
Quote: The songwriting would also drastically benefit from some editing. For starters, while there are some great riffs and soli, there are no great songs.
That's the same way I felt about Reptilian, and I hear it even more with this release. Great individual parts, but the compositions are a bit aimless. To me it feels like with each release, Mr. Claw is taking the band in a more "epic" and progressive direction. That's fine, but something is really lost along the way. Yeah, Armada had it's fair share of 5 minute+ songs, but it didn't waste much time getting down to business in any track. Kolossus was similar, albeit a little less succinct and direct. This (and Reptilian to a smaller degree) feels like a lot of dicking around for the sake of making a "bigger" sound. If they tightened up song writing, they probably would have had 10, 5-minute songs that were awesome, instead of 8 or 9, 7-10 minute songs that are totally forgettable.
With Reptilian after the part of a song I like has played, I hit the "next track" button, without listen to the rest of the song. I'm getting the same vibes from this.
...As for the vocals - I miss T-Bone as much as the next guy, and agree that Claw's vocals aren't nearly as good (in fact - some of the clean vocals are kind of embarrassing), but vocals are one of the less noteworthy faults with this album.
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flightoficarus Stamp Tramp
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18.02.2015 - 03:47Rating: 5
How DARE someone have a different opinion than the collective. Call the thought police, this guy's gone rogue!
EDIT: Listened to the album now. If anything, this review is too kind.
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