Bad English Tage Westerlund
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It does not make sense, how founding member can leave? she can fire rest of band, but then where Alex goes, he needs re start Atrocity... maybe soon rigs will be taken of, to me weird when wife leaves band and husband is there.
I wanna know more and details, where are goddamn paparazzi when we need those?
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Kais
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The hell? This makes no sense whatsoever...
Guess it's another symphonic band to the grave. Sad.
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Written by Bad English on 16.04.2016 at 20:47 ...where are goddamn paparazzi when we need those?
Yeah, well, paparazzis don't review metal artists unless they're an old overrated band (e.g. Metallica, Megadeth, Deep Purple etc), or a pop boy band that attempts to be metal (e.g. Bullet For My Valentine, Asking Alexandria etc). This is actually a good thing, what metal artist (or any other normal humanbeing) today wants to be followed around and have pictures himself in private enviorments spread across the network?
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Lord_Regnier
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Strange. Even the band's name was related to her.
I've always thought she was a beautiful woman but I never liked her voice, to be honest. Don't know how she is in life but she looked cool in her videos.
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WorpeX Made of Metal
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What the hell? That was a move I never thought i'd see. Wont be the same band without Liv.... are they going through a divorce or something? Strange since Alexander is still in the band. Kind of interested how they will sound with her out.
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Polaria
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Wait, what???
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Kais on 16.04.2016 at 21:17
The hell? This makes no sense whatsoever...
Guess it's another symphonic band to the grave. Sad.
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Written by Bad English on 16.04.2016 at 20:47 ...where are goddamn paparazzi when we need those?
Yeah, well, paparazzis don't review metal artists unless they're an old overrated band (e.g. Metallica, Megadeth, Deep Purple etc), or a pop boy band that attempts to be metal (e.g. Bullet For My Valentine, Asking Alexandria etc). This is actually a good thing, what metal artist (or any other normal humanbeing) today wants to be followed around and have pictures himself in private enviorments spread across the network?
well she still looks good, in that case they might
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Lord_Regnier on 16.04.2016 at 21:45
Strange. Even the band's name was related to her.
Liv - band name is a bit of English pronunciation of her 1th name
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BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
Liv is invaluable to this band. Who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
Unless it was her decision, of course, which doesn't seem like it from what she said and all the secrecy. If it was a personal decision, they could have just said so.
Now, excuse me while I listen to Lovelorn, my favourite Leaves' Eyes album. Liv shines btw.
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Polaria
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Hypothesis 1:
Alexander and Liv are getting divorced.
Hypothesis 2:
Theatre of Tragedy is getting rebooted (remember Raymond was a guest on Liv's last solo tour) and Liv got an ultimatum from the Leaves' Eyes guys.
Either way it is dishonest to 1) announce that news so casually while peeps have already bought tickets for the upcoming tour and 2) keep the band's name. The fans won't probably forgive that kind of deception, even if Elina proves to be a suitable replacement.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Polaria on 16.04.2016 at 23:04
Hypothesis 1:
Alexander and Liv are getting divorced.
Hypothesis 2:
Theatre of Tragedy is getting rebooted (remember Raymond was a guest on Liv's last solo tour) and Liv got an ultimatum from the Leaves' Eyes guys.
Either way it is dishonest to 1) announce that news so casually while peeps have already bought tickets for the upcoming tour and 2) keep the band's name. The fans won't probably forgive that kind of deception, even if Elina proves to be a suitable replacement.
1 I told it 1th , and also commented Ana knows what I said when submied
Nr 2 I did not thought about it , and more sense would be hiatus, or broke up
I believe they will broke up
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The Evergreen
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It is also possible that Liv just didn't want to do as much as the rest of the band. She has a kid, after all, and I could totally understand wanting more family time. I know I don't see my family enough and I'm just some working man. The fact that they already had a singer lined up kind of points to some planning for this that goes back a long time. Who knows.
I wish all concerned the best. I love Liv's voice and I love Leaves' Eyes.
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HyperDrifter
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No disrespect to Elina, but I just can't imagine Leaves Eyes without Liv Kristine....
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Polaria
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Written by Bad English on 16.04.2016 at 23:16
Written by Polaria on 16.04.2016 at 23:04
Hypothesis 1:
Alexander and Liv are getting divorced.
Hypothesis 2:
Theatre of Tragedy is getting rebooted (remember Raymond was a guest on Liv's last solo tour) and Liv got an ultimatum from the Leaves' Eyes guys.
Either way it is dishonest to 1) announce that news so casually while peeps have already bought tickets for the upcoming tour and 2) keep the band's name. The fans won't probably forgive that kind of deception, even if Elina proves to be a suitable replacement.
1 I told it 1th , and also commented Ana knows what I said when submied
Nr 2 I did not thought about it , and more sense would be hiatus, or broke up
I believe they will broke up
Do you mean that you think Leaves' Eyes is contractually tied to do the tour, so they had to find another singer then they would disband or going on hiatus after the tour?
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Polaria on 16.04.2016 at 23:34
Written by Bad English on 16.04.2016 at 23:16
Written by Polaria on 16.04.2016 at 23:04
Hypothesis 1:
Alexander and Liv are getting divorced.
Hypothesis 2:
Theatre of Tragedy is getting rebooted (remember Raymond was a guest on Liv's last solo tour) and Liv got an ultimatum from the Leaves' Eyes guys.
Either way it is dishonest to 1) announce that news so casually while peeps have already bought tickets for the upcoming tour and 2) keep the band's name. The fans won't probably forgive that kind of deception, even if Elina proves to be a suitable replacement.
1 I told it 1th , and also commented Ana knows what I said when submied
Nr 2 I did not thought about it , and more sense would be hiatus, or broke up
I believe they will broke up
Do you mean that you think Leaves' Eyes is contractually tied to do the tour, so they had to find another singer then they would disband or going on hiatus after the tour?
She can fire whole band and even start law suit if band use such name
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Polaria
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Written by Bad English on 16.04.2016 at 23:40
Written by Polaria on 16.04.2016 at 23:34
Do you mean that you think Leaves' Eyes is contractually tied to do the tour, so they had to find another singer then they would disband or going on hiatus after the tour?
She can fire whole band and even start law suit if band use such name
I would assume this depends on any contract concluded between her and the band. It seems that she cannot prevent the tour from happening nor force a change of name.
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Lord_Regnier
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Was Liv Kristine the only founding member left or is there still a founding member in the band?
If there is still a founding member in the band, it's possible that she could leave or be fired and the band could continue without her (though they might have to pay her a compensation). However, if she was the only founding member left, then the rights on the name should belong to her (unless she agreed to renounce to it).
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Lord_Regnier on 17.04.2016 at 00:12
Was Liv Kristine the only founding member left or is there still a founding member in the band?
If there is still a founding member in the band, it's possible that she could leave or be fired and the band could continue without her (though they might have to pay her a compensation). However, if she was the only founding member left, then the rights on the name should belong to her (unless she agreed to renounce to it).
I think she is only one, rest of guys is just atrocity, she asked husband fix that probably
Those 2 bands tour together and play together
Band was formed in 2003... other what jopined 2003 left long ago, so she and Alex and Thorsten Bauer and he is in Atrocity since 1992
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Lord_Regnier on 17.04.2016 at 00:12
Was Liv Kristine the only founding member left or is there still a founding member in the band?
If there is still a founding member in the band, it's possible that she could leave or be fired and the band could continue without her (though they might have to pay her a compensation). However, if she was the only founding member left, then the rights on the name should belong to her (unless she agreed to renounce to it).
There are bands around without any founding members in them. First one that springs to mind is Asphyx.
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Lord_Regnier
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.04.2016 at 00:51
Written by Lord_Regnier on 17.04.2016 at 00:12
Was Liv Kristine the only founding member left or is there still a founding member in the band?
If there is still a founding member in the band, it's possible that she could leave or be fired and the band could continue without her (though they might have to pay her a compensation). However, if she was the only founding member left, then the rights on the name should belong to her (unless she agreed to renounce to it).
There are bands around without any founding members in them. First one that springs to mind is Asphyx.
I know. But I believe in this case, if she was the only founding member left and there is a dispute about the rights, chances are she would win the case probably.
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Written by Lord_Regnier on 17.04.2016 at 01:28
I know. But I believe in this case, if she was the only founding member left and there is a dispute about the rights, chances are she would win the case probably.
If there are, indeed, disputes over the name she should win it, I would say. But never underestimate judges
IN the case of Asphyx there was no dispute whasoever when Bob Bagchus as last remaining founding member left the band. But I still find it weird, especially since I saw the original founding formation all the way back performing live (so with Theo Loomans on vocals), that this band is still called Aspphyx.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.04.2016 at 02:10
IN the case of Asphyx there was no dispute whasoever when Bob Bagchus as last remaining founding member left the band. But I still find it weird, especially since I saw the original founding formation all the way back performing live (so with Theo Loomans on vocals), that this band is still called Aspphyx.
When there is no founding member left in a band, it's usually because the last founding member left on his own (and was not kicked out, which would most likely end up in a dispute) or died. But yeah, it's weird to see a band with no founding member left or at least no long-time member still in the band.
In the case you mention, I think there was no money to make with the band, so it probably helped. I don't think a band like Asphyx has ever been a moneymaker.
So, no dispute ensued. When it is a popular band, with lots of money in the balance, things get quickly much more complicated, surprisingly.
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M C Vice ex-polydactyl
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.04.2016 at 00:51
Written by Lord_Regnier on 17.04.2016 at 00:12
Was Liv Kristine the only founding member left or is there still a founding member in the band?
If there is still a founding member in the band, it's possible that she could leave or be fired and the band could continue without her (though they might have to pay her a compensation). However, if she was the only founding member left, then the rights on the name should belong to her (unless she agreed to renounce to it).
There are bands around without any founding members in them. First one that springs to mind is Asphyx.
Stratovarius and Holy Moses are another 2.
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Written by BloodTears on 16.04.2016 at 22:56
Liv is invaluable to this band. Who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
Unless it was her decision, of course, which doesn't seem like it from what she said and all the secrecy. If it was a personal decision, they could have just said so.
Could be personal reasons they want to keep private, too.
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Polaria
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Written by M C Vice on 17.04.2016 at 04:19
Written by BloodTears on 16.04.2016 at 22:56
Liv is invaluable to this band. Who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
Unless it was her decision, of course, which doesn't seem like it from what she said and all the secrecy. If it was a personal decision, they could have just said so.
Could be personal reasons they want to keep private, too.
Seeing how things are developing on Facebook, that will not stay private for long...
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SoUnDs LiKe PoP
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Lol, awesome. Just on f*cking time for me to get to see them this autumn with Sonata Arctica... sigh.
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Written by YourRequiem on 16.04.2016 at 22:18
Riparoonie.
I thought I was the only person in the world who used that term.
Between that and your favorite bands list, we might be long lost brothers
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Polaria
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Some comfort here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvZ8llmVMSQ
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Written by M C Vice on 17.04.2016 at 04:19
Written by BloodTears on 16.04.2016 at 22:56
Liv is invaluable to this band. Who in their right mind would think this is a good idea?
Unless it was her decision, of course, which doesn't seem like it from what she said and all the secrecy. If it was a personal decision, they could have just said so.
Could be personal reasons they want to keep private, too.
I would understand that. They could just say it was "for personal reasons" like so many bands do and don't disclose them. Here, they didn't even address it.
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