The Band that Invented Metal
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Lupas Maximus |
01.06.2006 - 18:51
I wonder who was the first band that invented True Metal Music . Some say that was OZZY or ACDC and others would say LED or even Metallica. Better leave to you this decision
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Lucas Mr. Noise Elite |
01.06.2006 - 18:59
Metallica can be removed right away. They started in the early '80ths, whilst Metal started in the '70ths. I don't really know.. I'd like to see what some guys say about, those who know mor about the history than I do..
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Damnated Churchburner |
01.06.2006 - 19:37
I say Black Sabbath. They made the first metal.
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Lupas Maximus |
01.06.2006 - 22:24
Well i see that Black Sabbath are the first. ANd it is interesting that the first metal band where from USA and not from Sewden or Finland . AS i'm right about Black Sabbath from USA
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Danigar |
01.06.2006 - 22:28
Mmmm no, i would say it was a whole process. I dont think that just one band came all of a sudden and invented metal, no. I think it is more of a process and a developing sound that come from a long time ago. I would say since the rock'an roll begginins and blues and all that stuff. And of course when these sounds reached bands like Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and of course Black Sabbath, they just pushed further towards a heavier sound, and so on with many bands until that heavy sound reached the expression that we know nowadays. But well, someone who knows more about the history of metal and music in general could tell you more. But I think its basically an evolution of a sound that passed from band to band through time.
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Danigar |
01.06.2006 - 22:32
And no lupas, Black Sabbath is from The UK as well as all the others bands that helped create the metal sound like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, etc.
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Ur-Nammu Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 00:35 Ur-Nammu
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You can't put all the blame on just a single band. Music always evolves faster than genre titles anyway, so by the time the term "heavy metal" had become a household name there were already several bands playing a style which fit the definition, and you can't really pinpoint it to a single band. Also, the six first Black Sabbath albums (which I like to think of as the true Sabbath, Dio era just sounded like Dio's stuff) have just as much grunge and stoner going on in them.
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VenoM_BM Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 01:17 VenoM_BM
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Just a great thread, nobody explained absolutely nothing here... The term "heavy metal" was first reffered to Hendrix's music. A jurnalist said that his music sounded like "heavy metal falling from the sky". You could say that he started this genre. Some voices said the beginning of metal can be found in the first electric guitar, goinng with this you can say it started with the guitar and etc. when you get to a man hiting 2 rocks (metalic ones) to make a sound, a metalic one, that's the unknown hero that made metal. Now to get this one: Of all rock & roll's myriad forms, heavy metal is the most extreme in terms of volume, machismo, and theatricality. There are numerous stylistic variations on heavy metal's core sound, but they're all tied together by a reliance on loud, distorted guitars (usually playing repeated riffs) and simple, pounding rhythms. Heavy metal has been controversial nearly throughout its existence -- critics traditionally dismissed the music as riddled with over-the-top adolescent theatrics, and conservative groups have often protested what they perceive as evil lyrical content. Still, despite -- or perhaps because of -- those difficulties, heavy metal has become one of the most consistently popular forms of rock music ever created, able to adapt to the times yet keep its core appeal intact. For all its status as America's rebellion soundtrack of choice, heavy metal was largely a British creation. The first seeds of heavy metal were sown in the British blues movement of the '60s, specifically among bands who found it hard to adjust to the natural swing of American blues. The rhythms became more squared-off, and the amplified electric instruments became more important, especially with the innovations of artists like the Kinks, the Who, Jimi Hendrix, Cream, and the Jeff Beck Group. Arguably the first true metal band, however, was Led Zeppelin. Initially, Zep played blues tunes heavier and louder than anyone ever had, and soon created an epic, textured brand of heavy rock that drew from many musical sources. Less subtle but perhaps even more influential was Black Sabbath, whose murky, leaden guitar riffs created a doomy fantasy world obsessed with drugs, death, and the occult. Following the blueprint laid down by Zep and Sabbath, several American bands modified heavy metal into more accessible forms during the '70s: the catchy tunes and outrageous stage shows of Alice Cooper and Kiss; the sleazy boogie of Aerosmith; and the flashy guitar leads and wild party rock of Van Halen (not to mention the distinctively minimalist grooves of Australia's AC/DC). In the late '70s, a cache of British bands dubbed the New Wave of British Heavy Metal (including Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and Motorhead) started playing metal faster, leaner, and with more menace than ever before. They helped influence a new American metal scene known as thrash in the '80s, which took shape as a reaction to metal's new mainstream pop breakthrough, which came courtesy of Def Leppard's Pyromania. Metal enjoyed its greatest presence on the charts during the '80s, thanks to a raft of glammed-up pop-metal bands, but thrash bands played complex riffs at breakneck speed, sometimes dispensing with vocal melody altogether. Thrashers like Metallica and Megadeth built rabid cult followings that pushed them into the mainstream around the same time that grunge wiped pop-metal off the charts. In the '90s the underground grew harsher and bleaker, producing two similar, thrash-derived styles known as death metal and black metal, which produced some of the most abrasive, intense, hyperspeed music and graphic shock tactics the metal world had yet witnessed. For me the true metal was born with the apperance of the NWOBHM, that the sound of metal and it's clear that for it's time it had the biggest impact on the metal world and still has. To name just a few bands that are credited or credit this movment: Judas Priest (the first band that played metal, first album in 1974), Iron Maiden (the most respected band ever), Metallica (cleary influneced by this genre, see "Garage Days" or "Garage Inc." and let's admit it Metallica is known to at least 90% of poeple you regulary meet). The New Wave of British Heavy Metal re-energized heavy metal in the late '70s and early '80s. By the close of the '70s, heavy metal had stagnated, with its biggest stars (Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath) either breaking away from the genre or sinking in their own indulgence, while many of its midlevel artists were simply undistinguished, churning out bluesy hard-rock riffs. The NWOBHM kicked out all of the blues, sped up the tempo, and toughened up the sound, leaving just a mean, tough, fast, hard metallic core. It didn't make any attempts to win a wide audience -- it was pure metal, made for metal fans. Perhaps that's the reason why it's at the foundation of all modern-day metal: true metalheads either listened to this or to bands like Metallica, which were inspired by bands like Diamond Head for example. And that's all folks! Hope you have the time to read this post.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin |
02.06.2006 - 01:38
The term heavy metal was actually coined by Steppenwolf in "Born to be Wild" within the line '...heavy metal thunder.' I'll jump on the bandwagon and agree that Sabbath started the actual music itself.
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Trifixion Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 01:47 Trifixion
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Yes I'll echo everyone else and say Sabbath, short and to the point. Little did they know what they were creating at the time
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VenoM_BM Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 01:49 VenoM_BM
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@Bitter COld: come on let's leave that Steppenwolf thing, it has nothing to do with music, that is reffering to the sound of Harleys...And i know what you are trying to say, I've heard that argument a thousand times and it's just not valid. As I remeber Steppenwolf have nothing to do with metal and I haven't hear that many metal bands being influenced by this one band, because except that song and probably "Magic Carpet Ride" nobody can name another song from them.
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Mega-Slayer |
02.06.2006 - 02:30
I'd say Sabbath or Judas Priest.
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danzig111 Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 02:35 danzig111
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Led Zeppelin and AC/DC aren't really metal i think....... i think the Metal godfathers are BLACK SABBATH! they are so diverse from other '70's bands! listen to them! while most other bands were combinign blues and psychodelia to their music (which was the backbone ov ROCK in those days) Black Sabbath didn't do that, they ahd to be called something different which was "Heavy Metal"......then Judas Priest came along and helped make it popular
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BitterCOld The Ancient One Admin |
02.06.2006 - 02:36 Written by [user id=2267] on 02.06.2006 at 01:49 I didn't say they invented metal... I agreed with the concensus of Black Sabbath... however any rock historian will tell you the music press latched on and used the words "heavy metal" to describe the music based upon the line in that Steppenwolf song.
---- get the fuck off my lawn. Beer Bug Virus Spotify Playlist crafted by Nikarg and I. Feel free to tune in and add some pertinent metal tunes!
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Horlequism Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 03:13 Horlequism
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A lot of people beleive that Blue Cheer invented the sound...it was said somewhere that "they played what was later called heavy metal" in the late 60s...the whole Steppenwolf thing should really matter in this discussion...however, it is also beleived that Lester Bangs, a reviewer, author and editor for punk and what is now metal is the mid-late 60s coined the term metal...also, in the punk scene, many bands like Velvet Underground and MC5 were also said to be responsible for the more faster and agressive straight-forward side of metal...
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Endoftherainbow |
02.06.2006 - 03:52
Just like pretty much everyone else on here I would say that Black Sabbath invented Heavy Metal. They have songs on all of their first albums that helped define so many of the subgenres there are now in metal. The other band that I would give alot of credit to is Deep Purple because of the speed and aggression their music had.
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fire101 Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 04:04 fire101
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IMO, Black Sabbath. They had the idea to "scare" people with music early on. They evn took their band name from a horror movie they liked.
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Ur-Nammu Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 14:25 Ur-Nammu
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I guess no one read my post. Cool. Well, at least Black Sabbath is an awesome band.
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BloodTears ANA-thema Elite |
02.06.2006 - 14:38
I share the general opinion, Black Sabbath is the band that started the heavy metal genre. Hendrix played the distorted guitar but I think that was about it cuz its riffs are blues-oriented.
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Lupas Maximus |
02.06.2006 - 23:31
@VenoM_BM Wow great post BTW:noidea: About the place from which Black Sabbath came from . I never imagine that i will get so response to this thread i have made. Most of you give me an idea of what era was the metal music born .
---- "For what point has this life if you can't realise your dreams?" -- The Divine Comedy
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okt31 Account deleted |
02.06.2006 - 23:39 okt31
Account deleted Written by [user id=2267] on 02.06.2006 at 01:49 Runaway Train is a classic song also.. But I think they played rock.. not even very hard one..
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Dam3k |
03.06.2006 - 00:35
-Black Sabbath -Deep Purple -AC/DC -Led Zeppelin -And finally the last image touches and so on Judas Priest
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Dam3k |
03.06.2006 - 00:40 Written by Lupas on 01.06.2006 at 22:24 Sorry didn't read that before... man u are really lost in metal scene and history =), Sweden and Finland have been development metal since 80s-90s the exists since 70s and it came from hard rock, Sweden and Finland are reprenstative in death, power, symphonic or whatever but for sure not in the classic heavy metal scene!!
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Unholy_Emperor |
03.06.2006 - 02:06
Specially Black Sabbath, but bands like Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep and Blue Oyster Cult helped to make it true.
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DIE_by_my_HAND |
03.06.2006 - 04:11 Written by Lucas on 01.06.2006 at 18:59 Actually some may say it was invented in the late 60s with bands like Cream, the Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppelin, Vanilla Fudge, Iron Butterfly, Steppenwolf, Blue Cheer, Deep Purple, Grand Funk Railroad, Free, Uriah Heep, Mountain, Humble Pie, Bloodrock, MC5, Black Widow, Atomic Rooster, Cactus, Diamond Head and Black Sabbath. Blue Cheer was to my knowledge the first band to sound "heavy" - pretty much like distorted blues. But for me it is Black Sabbath because they were THE heaviest out of these.
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DIE_by_my_HAND |
03.06.2006 - 04:19 Written by Lupas on 02.06.2006 at 23:31 Black Sabbath is from Birmingham, UK...
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TheKreator Account deleted |
03.06.2006 - 10:26 TheKreator
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Metallica didn't invent anything...they came out speed/thrash in the 80'2...metal was omnipresent roght the My guess is that the inventors are Def Leppard, followed by Black Sabbath...also Dio, after he left BS
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Dam3k |
03.06.2006 - 12:16
Maybe Metallica didn't invented anything but they really consolidate the metal scene over the whole world!!
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