This is a tough one...because I feel that NO woman should have to sell her body just to make ends meet, and that definitely does happen. Whether it's legal or not, I would still find that repulsive, and wrong. I think though that legalising prostitution is a necessary evil. Making it illegal doesn't stop it, and just allows pimps and clients to abuse prostitutes very easily. The problem with making it legal, is it legitimises it, and makes it seem like a good thing, which I obviously don't agree with. However, I think the benefits of legalising it, outweigh the negative aspects of it. The women working in that industry need all the protection they can get, and sadly, legalising prostitution seems to be the only way of ensuring that. If a woman WANTS to sell her body for money, then that's fine. It's the ones who don't really want to, but feel they have to that I feel sorry for.

Same thing with pornography really. But again, if a woman is doing it because she feels she has to, then obviously I don't agree with that. If there are some that enjoy it, then fair play to them. But there are definitely women in pornography and prostitution who are exploited, and that makes me sad.

Written by Angelic Storm on 06.11.2009 at 08:30

Same thing with pornography really. But again, if a woman is doing it because she feels she has to, then obviously I don't agree with that. If there are some that enjoy it, then fair play to them. But there are definitely women in pornography and prostitution who are exploited, and that makes me sad.

If you are interested in the views of a pornstar who does it through choice check out Sasha Grey, she has a myspace where she gives her view, then there's interviews where she gives her opinion on the industry. She stars in the new Stephen Soderbergh movie too.

Written by Haddonfield on 07.11.2009 at 03:14
If you are interested in the views of a pornstar who does it through choice check out Sasha Grey, she has a myspace where she gives her view, then there's interviews where she gives her opinion on the industry. She stars in the new Stephen Soderbergh movie too.

I think it can be an exploitative industry, but the women who don't feel forced into it, and enjoy doing it, then that's fine. I know that some women would think it shouldn't be endorsed no matter what. But I don't feel quite that strongly about it. I do agree with some of her views though. I don't think there is really any such thing as "perverted sex" between consenting adults. Unless it involves children, animals, or where force is being used and consent hasn't been given, then I think people should just be able to do what they like. The pornographic industry can, and does exploit some vulnerable women. But the ones who actually enjoy being in it, then I have no problem with that.

Written by Angelic Storm on 07.11.2009 at 09:29

Written by Haddonfield on 07.11.2009 at 03:14
If you are interested in the views of a pornstar who does it through choice check out Sasha Grey, she has a myspace where she gives her view, then there's interviews where she gives her opinion on the industry. She stars in the new Stephen Soderbergh movie too.

I think it can be an exploitative industry, but the women who don't feel forced into it, and enjoy doing it, then that's fine. I know that some women would think it shouldn't be endorsed no matter what. But I don't feel quite that strongly about it. I do agree with some of her views though. I don't think there is really any such thing as "perverted sex" between consenting adults. Unless it involves children, animals, or where force is being used and consent hasn't been given, then I think people should just be able to do what they like. The pornographic industry can, and does exploit some vulnerable women. But the ones who actually enjoy being in it, then I have no problem with that.

Abpout prostitionion, I dunno how in UK is whit it, but ven if its be legal, or unleaal, I doubt there it can be like in Cz, because its better for you not know how gypsy mafia contol and what brutal force use girls do it .... no doubts hy czcehs, hungarians hate gypsies, but doing legaly its not posible, use it whit forse, even I dont wanna know dark side and otherside about this busness, neve rhad use it and never will, but soemhow I have paraoia if I gonna use there sidenly come s10 guys and beat me up when I pay

Porno is diefernt I prefere those marc dorcel (BTW happy 30 B Day Marc Dorcel co...) wher ehuge buggets, because amatour sucks, but main think why I say it, I saw some doc and soem guys sad about porno ''do not try do this at home'' because all is done by profs and there was some huge info what injuries people got when try reapite what they seen in films, about perv sex, well I can agry even I prefre only ''normal'' whit out those weird thinks wahts popular nowdays

Written by Bad English on 07.11.2009 at 18:19
About prostitionion, I dunno how in UK is whit it, but ven if its be legal, or unleaal, I doubt there it can be like in Cz, because its better for you not know how gypsy mafia contol and what brutal force use girls do it .... no doubts hy czcehs, hungarians hate gypsies, but doing legaly its not posible, use it whit forse, even I dont wanna know dark side and otherside about this busness, neve rhad use it and never will, but soemhow I have paraoia if I gonna use there sidenly come s10 guys and beat me up when I pay

Porno is diefernt I prefere those marc dorcel (BTW happy 30 B Day Marc Dorcel co...) wher ehuge buggets, because amatour sucks, but main think why I say it, I saw some doc and soem guys sad about porno ''do not try do this at home'' because all is done by profs and there was some huge info what injuries people got when try reapite what they seen in films, about perv sex, well I can agry even I prefre only ''normal'' whit out those weird thinks wahts popular nowdays

In the UK it is still illegal, though I think it should be legalised. The examples you're giving being prime examples why I think it should be. As for "perverted sex", yeah, Im sure there's lots of things in porn that would personally disgust me, but my view is, as long as no-one is forcing me to watch it, or participate in it, then people can do what they like.

Written by Angelic Storm on 07.11.2009 at 18:36

Written by Bad English on 07.11.2009 at 18:19
About prostitionion, I dunno how in UK is whit it, but ven if its be legal, or unleaal, I doubt there it can be like in Cz, because its better for you not know how gypsy mafia contol and what brutal force use girls do it .... no doubts hy czcehs, hungarians hate gypsies, but doing legaly its not posible, use it whit forse, even I dont wanna know dark side and otherside about this busness, neve rhad use it and never will, but soemhow I have paraoia if I gonna use there sidenly come s10 guys and beat me up when I pay

Porno is diefernt I prefere those marc dorcel (BTW happy 30 B Day Marc Dorcel co...) wher ehuge buggets, because amatour sucks, but main think why I say it, I saw some doc and soem guys sad about porno ''do not try do this at home'' because all is done by profs and there was some huge info what injuries people got when try reapite what they seen in films, about perv sex, well I can agry even I prefre only ''normal'' whit out those weird thinks wahts popular nowdays

In the UK it is still illegal, though I think it should be legalised. The examples you're giving being prime examples why I think it should be. As for "perverted sex", yeah, Im sure there's lots of things in porn that would personally disgust me, but my view is, as long as no-one is forcing me to watch it, or participate in it, then people can do what they like.

Well yes and many porn isnt porn, how looking when people piing on each other face, or nacked people stand 2h nera trea calls porn?

I prefere soft, girl + man, or man + 2 girls where like story , like film,

Written by Bad English on 07.11.2009 at 18:46
Well yes and many porn isnt porn, how looking when people piing on each other face, or nacked people stand 2h nera trea calls porn?

I prefere soft, girl + man, or man + 2 girls where like story , like film,

I don't watch porn, so it doesn't really bother me either way. The only thing that bothers me, is the women in that industry who ARE exploited. I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand the last part of your first sentence....

Written by Angelic Storm on 07.11.2009 at 19:05

Written by Bad English on 07.11.2009 at 18:46
Well yes and many porn isnt porn, how looking when people piing on each other face, or nacked people stand 2h nera trea calls porn?

I prefere soft, girl + man, or man + 2 girls where like story , like film,

I don't watch porn, so it doesn't really bother me either way. The only thing that bothers me, is the women in that industry who ARE exploited. I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand the last part of your first sentence....

Porn stars life ois quate ok, they have some wrights, but prostitutes ehhh


well nowdays people pay hugge money to see in TV nacked man and women stand 2 h whit out movieng and how people urinating on each other ... and people cal it porn :puke:

Written by Angelic Storm on 07.11.2009 at 18:36

In the UK it is still illegal, though I think it should be legalised. The examples you're giving being prime examples why I think it should be. As for "perverted sex", yeah, Im sure there's lots of things in porn that would personally disgust me, but my view is, as long as no-one is forcing me to watch it, or participate in it, then people can do what they like.

In our country it's not the act of prostitution that is actually illegal it's the activites that surround it. For example, running a brothel and kerb-crawling are both illegal as is causing, inciting or controlling prostitution for personal gain. Almost every act up until the final selling of sex is illegal which is crazy! Not long ago ministers had considered a ban but ruled it out due to an aparent lack of public support which seems a bit strange to me.

Written by Immortal on 27.11.2009 at 02:04
In our country it's not the act of prostitution that is actually illegal it's the activites that surround it. For example, running a brothel and kerb-crawling are both illegal as is causing, inciting or controlling prostitution for personal gain. Almost every act up until the final selling of sex is illegal which is crazy! Not long ago ministers had considered a ban but ruled it out due to an aparent lack of public support which seems a bit strange to me.

No, it's not crazy. I actually agree with all those things being illegal, in particular, "causing, inciting or controlling prostitution for personal gain". Most of the people who make money off prostitutes, are brutal, and ruthless, and certainly don't care anything about the prostitutes they use for financial gain. Pimps should definitely be prosectued with the full powers of the law.

Written by Angelic Storm on 27.11.2009 at 02:09

No, it's not crazy. I actually agree with all those things being illegal, in particular, "causing, inciting or controlling prostitution for personal gain". Most of the people who make money off prostitutes, are brutal, and ruthless, and certainly don't care anything about the prostitutes they use for financial gain. Pimps should definitely be prosectued with the full powers of the law.

I meant it was crazy to make all of those things illegal bar actually selling sex itself. As in criminalizing someone whose sole purpose is to pay for a legal service.

Written by Immortal on 27.11.2009 at 02:17
I meant it was crazy to make all of those things illegal bar actually selling sex itself. As in criminalizing someone whose sole purpose is to pay for a legal service.

It isn't crazy, seeing as some prostitutes are the only victims in the equation. Kerb crawling isn't as severe as pimping, which definitely should be labelled as criminal activity and punished as such, but it still supports an industry which is harmful to at least some of the women in it.

Written by Angelic Storm on 27.11.2009 at 02:23

It isn't crazy, seeing as some prostiutes are the only victims in the equation. Kerb crawling isn't as severe as pimping, which definitely should be labelled as criminal activity and punished as such, but it still supports an industry which is harmful to at least some of the women in it.

I think you may have misunderstood what I'm trying to say. Yes, the prostitutes are always the vicitms in the sex trade, but this is made even worse by only illegalizing parts of the industry. It's too hazy as to how to go about gaining a legal service through chains of illegality. I'm saying, why not completely illegalize every aspect of selling sex or completely legalize it, not a bit of both.

Written by Immortal on 27.11.2009 at 02:36
I think you may have misunderstood what I'm trying to say. Yes, the prostitutes are always the vicitms in the sex trade, but this is made even worse by only illegalizing parts of the industry. It's too hazy as to how to go about gaining a legal service through chains of illegality. I'm saying, why not completely illegalize every aspect of selling sex or completely legalize it, not a bit of both.

Pimping is probably the worst aspect in prostitution, and I think this is something that should still be criminalised, even if prostitution is made legal. Kerb crawling isn't quite as bad as pimping, but is still morally reprehensible.

The whole thing should simply be made legal over here.

A- The hygene of the girls would be controlled by the state, regular check-ups.

B- You create a new tax, putting money into the state rather than in the pocket of exploitative pimps.

C- You lower the percentage of sex crimes because sexually frustated people can fulfill their urges in a legal maner.

D- You eliminate all exploitation and create a safe environment for those on the job.

E- Sex would become less taboo, more acceptable in society, thus more a norm, which will in the long run also lower the percentage of sex crimes.

I would never use prostitution but there are so many reasons to legalise the trade.

PS: I'd also apply this to some drugs.

Yep, I would legalise prostitution for all the reasons Haddonfield listed above. Aside from "Sex would become less taboo, more acceptable in society, thus more a norm, which will in the long run also lower the percentage of sex crimes." I don't see how legalising prostitution would make sex become less taboo. At least not in a healthy sense. Though I do agree it probably would lower the percentage of sex crime.

But yeah, although I have some resevervations, I think the benefits of legalising outweigh the neagatives, and therefore it should be legalised. I also think most drugs should be legalised too. For similar reasons for why I think prostitution should be legalised.

Written by Haddonfield on 02.12.2009 at 18:12

PS: I'd also apply this to some drugs.

I would say better EU spebd more money not fight elegal downloads but use all thet money to fight elegal imigrants , who can be cause of prostitution and also fight all drugs , shut all down zero tolorance to imgigrants n drugs
It might sound rasistical but I never would use prostitute even if its legal there be, still girls who might do it elegal, and asdian, african etc it can be huge risk of infection and other deasise
Girl frm cameroon elegaly come to EU and .. stary work for prostitute, and even she's ''cheked'' there can be fake checkimngs to like fake apssorort , even local europian girls , I better try pic girl in bar how pay for ''deasise''

Anyone else have a hard time getting over the addiction to porn? I think I got into it so young, that it became impossible to get out. I watch a lot less porn now... considering I'm married, but it seems impossible to just completely let it go.

I hate it.

Written by TheBigRossowski on 10.02.2010 at 12:53

Anyone else have a hard time getting over the addiction to porn? I think I got into it so young, that it became impossible to get out. I watch a lot less porn now... considering I'm married, but it seems impossible to just completely let it go.

I hate it.

It anit no easy , but since i love Marc Dorcel films and some 70's 80's USA and italian and french and german from mid 90's and those are werry hard to see, so I dont watch it so offen, but stay clear is so hard

"Pornography tell lies about women, but pornography tells the truth about men"

Some quote I found a loooong time ago, and I do believe it's true. Men are stimulated by visuals, whereas women usually are not. I find nothing really wrong with pornography, but I do not think it's a healthy thing either. People become addicted to it. The people in the industry, well, they are pretty messed up half way through their careers thanks to drugs and exposure. And in a way, pornography is kind of like prostitution, your getting paid to have sex, though it's much more than you would get on the street BUT it's filmed and put out for everyone to see. To me, anything involving sex seems to always be what makes society close it's eyes. People fear sex for some reason, and want to contain it and restrict it. Which isn't right. Pornography makes women seem like eager, desperate, orange, big boobed, plastic whores, honestly. Hence why most women look down upon it. Like for example, I am a pin up model. I pose partially nude, in underwear, or other outfits for a living, but the way I do it, is not trashy. It's art to me. But I still get looked down upon by women, some men, because of my lifestyle. Like I said, it's just how society fears sex, but sex sells.

As for prostitution all around, most people who get into prostitution are like people who get into drug dealing. It's hardly a choice, it's a last resort for most who have nothing else to turn to. Because when your on the streets, drugs and sex sells fast too. And most girls in prostitution are unwed mothers, or abused mothers, teenage mothers, drug addicts, etc. It's never like a girl really thinks "I want to walk around the street having sex with old men" [because from cases I've seen, almost all men that pick up prostitutes are older married men]. And I don't think it's right, not at all. It's a dangerous lifestyle. STDs, murders, drugs, and abuse are all part of that.

Some prostitutes choose to do it because it's good pay for little work. If you legalise prostitution then you take it off the street and you can ensure that prostitutes get sexual health checks.

Written by Sick Girl on 23.02.2010 at 06:23

"Pornography tell lies about women, but pornography tells the truth about men"

There's a lot of truth in that quote. I like it a lot.

I myself don't like pornography, and I definitely acknowledge the negative aspects to it. But as long as women arent being exploited, I can turn a blind eye to it.

Written by Sick Girl on 23.02.2010 at 06:23

"Pornography tell lies about women, but pornography tells the truth about men"

Some quote I found a loooong time ago, and I do believe it's true. Men are stimulated by visuals, whereas women usually are not. I find nothing really wrong with pornography, but I do not think it's a healthy thing either. People become addicted to it. The people in the industry, well, they are pretty messed up half way through their careers thanks to drugs and exposure. And in a way, pornography is kind of like prostitution, your getting paid to have sex, though it's much more than you would get on the street BUT it's filmed and put out for everyone to see. To me, anything involving sex seems to always be what makes society close it's eyes. People fear sex for some reason, and want to contain it and restrict it. Which isn't right. Pornography makes women seem like eager, desperate, orange, big boobed, plastic whores, honestly. Hence why most women look down upon it. Like for example, I am a pin up model. I pose partially nude, in underwear, or other outfits for a living, but the way I do it, is not trashy. It's art to me. But I still get looked down upon by women, some men, because of my lifestyle. Like I said, it's just how society fears sex, but sex sells.

As for prostitution all around, most people who get into prostitution are like people who get into drug dealing. It's hardly a choice, it's a last resort for most who have nothing else to turn to. Because when your on the streets, drugs and sex sells fast too. And most girls in prostitution are unwed mothers, or abused mothers, teenage mothers, drug addicts, etc. It's never like a girl really thinks "I want to walk around the street having sex with old men" [because from cases I've seen, almost all men that pick up prostitutes are older married men]. And I don't think it's right, not at all. It's a dangerous lifestyle. STDs, murders, drugs, and abuse are all part of that.

Whewn Canal+Hits and Action show here porn does it do it on Norway becuase i heard it no alowed in Norway

Its best truth about porn, maybe in 70's , 80's no, because porn was real how sex might be real on TV , but for me no its nothing for visuals, nowdays porn I hate and I dont like any of those women into it, ok sime is pretty but i wont date any of those never, fake boobs, sex for money etc makes me sick, not for me, and people are afraid of it denyys porn, but same time they wtach, its like alcohol is bad for your health in public , at home its no, same Im so wright n good at school, but slut at home(I know such teacher BTW in real life, she likes go nacked on balcony and I watch LOL (IM perv) , but other hand, all likes easy money, easy money comes fast, porno you shood not do nothing, dunno about women there, but moust men probobly enjoy it and get paid to,

SOme truth in secend parth, but when you're drug addict , you cant get out, you cant but ypou're alone fight whit your self, in prostitution you cant get out because of mafia, gypsies, albanians, bulgarians. russians, romanian who controls it and go oiut only when you're old or dead,

There doc film about czech gyspy mafia how they force girls do it like put werry hot iron in vagina, and film it and show other girls what wold hepen if they dont do it or shoot girl and also show it .... so easy money die young, hard money live long

I have noticed that western documents about "life in czech" (and further to the east) are as real as rumors in The Sun or Der Bild...but in this case it may be particularly true, there really are gypsy (Romanian to be more politically correct) gangs abusing and trading girls...but how can police strike them and not to be accused of racial discrimination

Written by Ellrohir on 24.02.2010 at 00:15

I have noticed that western documents about "life in czech" (and further to the east) are as real as rumors in The Sun or Der Bild...but in this case it may be particularly true, there really are gypsy (Romanian to be more politically correct) gangs abusing and trading girls...but how can police strike them and not to be accused of racial discrimination

cops dont care, and generaly gypsyes are mkoust who supper from rass discrimnination, for example they are hated in Lv, I talkw hit many bulgarians in myspace when you mention gyspy's they simply explode and wanna kill em all, and to crack such gangs down police shood not be polite, sometimes better bullets before brains , otehrwise it wont work , crach sex mafia is hard, whyle there be mail in world it will exist, easyer is stop canabis and heroin use IMO how those crimes

Written by Ellrohir on 24.02.2010 at 00:15

there really are gypsy (Romanian to be more politically correct) gangs abusing and trading girls...but how can police strike them and not to be accused of racial discrimination

Give Liam Neeson a call. He'll sort it out for you.

That was an awful movie.

Written by Angelic Storm on 23.02.2010 at 21:32

I myself don't like pornography, and I definitely acknowledge the negative aspects to it. But as long as women arent being exploited, I can turn a blind eye to it.

I wouldn't look away just yet...

Written by Entropic Silence on 11.06.2010 at 09:06
I wouldn't look away just yet...

Why not?

Written by Angelic Storm on 13.06.2010 at 20:04

Why not?

Because I think it's a fairly safe assumption that women in pornography are being exploited. I don't actually have any case studies to whip out here, but it seems likely. If we can admit that young girls are kidnapped and forced into prostitution then it follows that similar things occur in pornography.

While I don't have any evidence, it seems more logical to me to assume that it is going on, given the nature of the industry among other things, than to assume it isn't.

Written by Entropic Silence on 14.06.2010 at 00:34
Because I think it's a fairly safe assumption that women in pornography are being exploited. I don't actually have any case studies to whip out here, but it seems likely. If we can admit that young girls are kidnapped and forced into prostitution then it follows that similar things occur in pornography.

While I don't have any evidence, it seems more logical to me to assume that it is going on, given the nature of the industry among other things, than to assume it isn't.

Oh, I have no doubts that some women in pornography are being exploited. Ive said before I only have no problem with women in pornography, if they arent being exploited. But how do you tell? Who is, and who isnt? Personally, I find the whole industry reprehensible, but as long as nobody is being hurt, then people should be allowed to do what they want. I wouldnt say all women in pornography are exploited, because Im sure that isnt the case. But Im sure there are a good number in the industry who are.

Written by Angelic Storm on 14.06.2010 at 00:42

Oh, I have no doubts that some women in pornography are being exploited. Ive said before I only have no problem with women in pornography, if they arent being exploited. But how do you tell. Who is, and who isnt? Personally, I find the whole industry reprehensible, but as long as nobody is being hurt, then people should be allowed to do what they want. I wouldnt say all women in pornography are exploited, because Im sure that isnt the case. But Im sure there are a good number in the industry who are.

OK, I think I see what you mean. You have issue with the women who are involved and being exploited, not with those who are in the industry by choice. And that doesn't translate to an issue with the industry as a whole. Is that right?