Metal Storm logo
Pornography and prostitution



Posts: 631   Visited by: 603 users

Original post

Posted by Unknown user, 11.11.2006 - 14:17
what do you all think about these two taboo subjects? in sweden, prostitution is illegal. i think this is wrong. i want a more liberal society. supply and demand should be put to use. people who are against prostitution always gives the argument "the girls are being used by the men". well, thats the same thing as the guy working at mc donalds is being used, coz its a shitty job with low wage. but what if the girl chooses to be a prostitute. then why is it wrong?
the same with pornography. people say "men learn to see women as objects". well, i admit that i've watched porn, but that doesnt make me look at women as objects. its still supply and demand. people are willing to expose themselves on the camera, and people are willing to pay to see the movies.

as long as no one gets hurt, it should be legal

am i right? what do you think?
19.08.2010 - 19:53
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 19.08.2010 at 00:21

Our government came up with a rather nifty solution. It is not illegal to sell sex, but it is illegal to buy sex and to profit from someone else selling sex. This makes it so that the hookers can't get caught if they report the customers and pimps, and gives them some form of protection.

And no, legalizing the prostitution industry would be highly idiotic, and I find myself asking the question whether any of the people supporting legalization have ever dealt with any people involved in it or criminals in general.

And shut the fuck up about damage limitation! If it was legal, then the industry would grow exponentially, affecting far more people. How is that for damage limitation?

Thatys idiotic, but if thay do it inform cops, who's gonne buy sex from those girls, so ... but its idiotic law, so but I will never buy, I have offers buy girls in Luleå 3-4 years ago, I say no and get hell away from that place
Less problemss, better life

EDDIT: I dont buy and never will buy, but still this law is stupid, shood be changed, legalize it or ban prostitutes

PS what would be prise for it SEK 10 000 per hour/time
Im cuyriuss how much cost whores here?
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
20.08.2010 - 10:40
ForeverDarkWoods
Written by Bad English on 19.08.2010 at 19:53

Thatys idiotic, but if thay do it inform cops, who's gonne buy sex from those girls, so ... but its idiotic law, so but I will never buy, I have offers buy girls in Luleå 3-4 years ago, I say no and get hell away from that place
Less problemss, better life

EDDIT: I dont buy and never will buy, but still this law is stupid, shood be changed, legalize it or ban prostitutes

PS what would be prise for it SEK 10 000 per hour/time
Im cuyriuss how much cost whores here?

Let's just say that when we decided to give the hookers this type of protection the problems with prostituiton dropped by half, and we got to a point where we could actually sometimes get to the pimps. I don't say that's idiotic.

As for what hookers cost, that would depend on what hookers you were talking about. There are drug addicts that cost extremely little and luxury hookers that cost extremely much.
----
Free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction!
- George W. Bush, ex-president of the United States of America
Loading...
20.08.2010 - 12:03
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 20.08.2010 at 10:40

As for what hookers cost, that would depend on what hookers you were talking about. There are drug addicts that cost extremely little and luxury hookers that cost extremely much.

SEK100 and SEK 30 000?'

Cheeper is buy new toy flashlight, looks like pussy, probobly works like pussy aprox 60 dollars+shipping and canal+ at 0:20 at night and you dont need hooker
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
20.08.2010 - 12:04
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Angelic Storm on 19.08.2010 at 19:43

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 19.08.2010 at 16:19
Yes, and that is an extremely good idea. In fact, the problem decreased by half when we decided to do that.

Well, your country is the proof that it works. Prostitution being illegal just helps pimps and "clients" to abuse prostitutes, because they cant get help or go to the police for fear of being arrested.

If guy needs a women in UK what would be a price there for hour 100 pounds, 1000 pounds?
Im just curiuss
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
20.08.2010 - 12:39
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Bad English on 20.08.2010 at 12:04
If guy needs a women in UK what would be a price there for hour 100 pounds, 1000 pounds?
Im just curiuss

How am I supposed to know? :\ Im not a prostitute. lol
Loading...
20.08.2010 - 12:42
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Angelic Storm on 20.08.2010 at 12:39

Written by Bad English on 20.08.2010 at 12:04
If guy needs a women in UK what would be a price there for hour 100 pounds, 1000 pounds?
Im just curiuss

How am I supposed to know? :\ Im not a prostitute. lol

You live there might hear it at TV , usualy ppl know ''bad'' thinks about city, how good once LOL
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
20.08.2010 - 12:45
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Bad English on 20.08.2010 at 12:42
You live there might hear it at TV , usualy ppl know ''bad'' thinks about city, how good once LOL

No, Ive never heard anything about that. But Id imagine different prostitutes charge different amounts. I dont think its a set amount. Its not as if the industry is regulated or anything.

Oh I know the bad things about my city... lol
Loading...
21.08.2010 - 23:03
Fane
Logical answer: Prostitution is business, business is about demand and supply so:
If there are many customers and a few prostitutes, prices are high.
If there are many prostitutes and a few customers (I think there's no such a place...), prices are low.
If there is a balance between demand and supply, price is at the middle.

... or you could just rip off all the horny customers, they'll pay.
----
Coffee for power
Music for creativity
Sarcasm for fun
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 00:23
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Angelic Storm on 20.08.2010 at 12:45

Oh I know the bad things about my city... lol

i looked up your city on wikitravel and i gotta say i never actually thought it would have this reputation of violence, or that prostitution would be legal there. anyway i guess it's all too common for you, same as for someone else it would be uncommon to turn down beggars or prostitutes/female pimps (which operate illegally) at every other street corner in "certain" areas of Bucharest

@Bad English i know in Germany where it's legal, there's a sort-of standard "fare" which is 60 euros. here it usually costs anything from 50 lei (12 euros) the lesser attractive ones to 200 lei (~45 E) for the upper class ones to more for the educated escort gals. you might argue that's not too much but then again 200 lei is one sixth of an average monthly salary around here, fuck!!
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 00:31
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Valentin B on 22.08.2010 at 00:23

Written by Angelic Storm on 20.08.2010 at 12:45

Oh I know the bad things about my city... lol

i looked up your city on wikitravel and i gotta say i never actually thought it would have this reputation of violence, or that prostitution would be legal there. anyway i guess it's all too common for you, same as for someone else it would be uncommon to turn down beggars or prostitutes/female pimps (which operate illegally) at every other street corner in "certain" areas of Bucharest

@Bad English i know in Germany where it's legal, there's a sort-of standard "fare" which is 60 euros. here it usually costs anything from 50 lei (12 euros) the lesser attractive ones to 200 lei (~45 E) for the upper class ones to more for the educated escort gals. you might argue that's not too much but then again 200 lei is one sixth of an average monthly salary around here, fuck!!

Man you be suprise hear Glasgow is knife capital of UK , I prefere small town where is whisky destillery, I can work like night guard there

In latvia when I start know what is prostiture it was Ls10(1Ls -1 UK pound), leither it was standart Ls15 , leither some 3-5 years ago it was from Ls20/30 local to Ls 40/up forener, but also drug additcs can do it for Ls1 I had offers Ls 2 for blowjob and Ls1 for handjob, Ls 3 for boobs/pussy licking and Ls 4 for fucking ... I say NO and beck than it was cheep
Now when there is crisis I dont know maybe price is Ls10/15 dunno
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 00:54
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Valentin B on 22.08.2010 at 00:23
i looked up your city on wikitravel and i gotta say i never actually thought it would have this reputation of violence, or that prostitution would be legal there. anyway i guess it's all too common for you, same as for someone else it would be uncommon to turn down beggars or prostitutes/female pimps (which operate illegally) at every other street corner in "certain" areas of Bucharest

Glasgow has (or had, I dont know if it still has) the highest murder rate in Western Europe, and has been called "the most violent city in the developed world". Just over a year ago, a report showed that Glasgow has more teenage gangs than London, despite London being more than 6 times the size of Glasgow.

The part of your post Ive bolded is lost on me, I dont know what you mean at all. lol
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 04:04
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
My turn my turn !!!
Cairo has one of the highest (if not the highest) rates of sexual harassment in the world

EDIT: According to a study released by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights (ECWR) in July, 62 percent of Egyptian men admit to sexually harassing women (Which means that ALOT more do but did not admit), and 83 percent of Egyptian women reported being harassed. (Which again, means that ALOT more have been harassed but not reported, other studies claim the actual percentage being 98%). Half say it happens every day. It was the first study of its kind.
----


None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free
Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 09:38
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Angelic Storm on 22.08.2010 at 00:54

Written by Valentin B on 22.08.2010 at 00:23
i looked up your city on wikitravel and i gotta say i never actually thought it would have this reputation of violence, or that prostitution would be legal there. anyway i guess it's all too common for you, same as for someone else it would be uncommon to turn down beggars or prostitutes/female pimps (which operate illegally) at every other street corner in "certain" areas of Bucharest

The part of your post Ive bolded is lost on me, I dont know what you mean at all. lol

i'm saying that gangs, violence, being afraid to take the bus late in the evening and things like that are most probably all too common for you, and it's the same as for someone else which would visit here, it would be uncommon to turn down soliciting beggars/prostitutes/homeless kids sniffing paint thinner at every other street corner in a certain area of the city.

area which ironically is located near to the closest Carrefour store around here and absurdly near to - sometimes stuff like this happens even inside- the 2 main train stations in Bucharest.
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 11:58
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Valentin B on 22.08.2010 at 09:38


area which ironically is located near to the closest Carrefour store around here and absurdly near to - sometimes stuff like this happens even inside- the 2 main train stations in Bucharest.

if in city has 2 football teams it cant be safe LOL
You shood know, Rapid, Steaua, Dinamo, Sportul, you shood kn ow it
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 12:26
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Valentin B on 22.08.2010 at 09:38
i'm saying that gangs, violence, being afraid to take the bus late in the evening and things like that are most probably all too common for you, and it's the same as for someone else which would visit here, it would be uncommon to turn down soliciting beggars/prostitutes/homeless kids sniffing paint thinner at every other street corner in a certain area of the city.

area which ironically is located near to the closest Carrefour store around here and absurdly near to - sometimes stuff like this happens even inside- the 2 main train stations in Bucharest.

Yes, it is common for me. Somtimes I dont feel safe even when Im inside the flat. Although gang/yob culture is like a plague in Glasgow's urban areas. Its just that some areas are even worse than others. But they all suffer with the problem to some extent.

What is a Carrefour store? lol xD

Well, just less than 5 minutes from where I live, there is the "nice bit" with bought houses, and virtually no problems with neds. Its like a different planet. I think because of the amount of urban areas with gangs, most decent areas of the city are not far away from the bad areas.
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 14:39
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Angelic Storm on 22.08.2010 at 12:26

What is a Carrefour store? lol xD

imagine a Tesco or whatever, basically a supermarket only with something like 50 aisles
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 18:34
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Valentin B on 22.08.2010 at 14:39
imagine a Tesco or whatever, basically a supermarket only with something like 50 aisles

Ah.... Hang on, how do you know about Tescos? Do you have them in Romania as well?
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 19:10
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
You dont have Carrefour in the UK ?
----


None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free
Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832
Loading...
22.08.2010 - 19:15
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Zombie on 22.08.2010 at 19:10

You dont have Carrefour in the UK ?

Nope, not that I know of anyways. I'd never even heard of it till Valentin mentioned it.
Loading...
23.08.2010 - 22:43
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Angelic Storm on 22.08.2010 at 19:15

Written by Zombie on 22.08.2010 at 19:10

You dont have Carrefour in the UK ?

Nope, not that I know of anyways. I'd never even heard of it till Valentin mentioned it.

what is tasco and what is carrefour?
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
23.08.2010 - 23:08
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Bad English on 23.08.2010 at 22:43
what is tasco and what is carrefour?

They are both supermarket chains. lol

Carrfour doesnt exist here though.
Loading...
23.08.2010 - 23:16
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Angelic Storm on 23.08.2010 at 23:08

Written by Bad English on 23.08.2010 at 22:43
what is tasco and what is carrefour?

They are both supermarket chains. lol

Carrfour doesnt exist here though.

LOL only think what I can think who's connected whit proin you can buy in supermartket is condoms LOL

remainds me whn we drove 1000km whit car Helsinki-Luleå closser Swe border more tired and weird I was,..in Luleå petrol station there was porn VHS, DVD, magazines I didnt know it simply stearing, my mind was weird, I idnt think and worker ask me ID, only at home I understood why LOL
----
I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.

Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"

I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 06:38
Visioneerie
Urban Monster
Written by Angelic Storm on 22.08.2010 at 00:54

Written by Valentin B on 22.08.2010 at 00:23
i looked up your city on wikitravel and i gotta say i never actually thought it would have this reputation of violence, or that prostitution would be legal there. anyway i guess it's all too common for you, same as for someone else it would be uncommon to turn down beggars or prostitutes/female pimps (which operate illegally) at every other street corner in "certain" areas of Bucharest

Glasgow has (or had, I dont know if it still has) the highest murder rate in Western Europe, and has been called "the most violent city in the developed world". Just over a year ago, a report showed that Glasgow has more teenage gangs than London, despite London being more than 6 times the size of Glasgow.

The part of your post Ive bolded is lost on me, I dont know what you mean at all. lol

Glasgow as the most violent city in industrialised countries ? That seems like a farfetched statement but by all means list your sources. I think Los Angeles and Detroit are to be considered way more violent.
I've read on London and its recent uprise of gang violence and it would seem to me with a much higher population they would have more gangs than your "nightmarish" Glasgow. Of course, per capita would be a different story and you're witness to what goes on within your city so I might be unaware of certain facts...
----
Any man can stand adversity, but to test his character give him power - A. Lincoln
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 07:06
Visioneerie
Urban Monster
To be more on topic, prostitution should be legalised for the betterment of the economy obviously. A whole new market would be brought into legal grounds. What does that mean ? More job opportunities, more cash for the government and less in the pockets of criminals. Why does that matter ? Higher employment rate and possibly a better fiscal policy, if your government is competent.

It's just in terms of ethical behaviour that prostitution is controversial and I do understand that to a certain degree.

edit : I ignored STDs. lol. Would have to be government regulated.
----
Any man can stand adversity, but to test his character give him power - A. Lincoln
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 08:37
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Visioneerie on 04.11.2010 at 06:38
Glasgow as the most violent city in industrialised countries ? That seems like a farfetched statement but by all means list your sources. I think Los Angeles and Detroit are to be considered way more violent.
I've read on London and its recent uprise of gang violence and it would seem to me with a much higher population they would have more gangs than your "nightmarish" Glasgow. Of course, per capita would be a different story and you're witness to what goes on within your city so I might be unaware of certain facts...

A UN report in 2005 stated that excluding murder, a Scot is 3 times more likely to be a victim of violent assault than an American. And compared the level of violent crime with cities like Rio De Janeiro. It said that the "booze and blades" culture of the West of Scotland was mainly responsible for the figures. And pinpointed Glasgow as a particular hotspot. Glasgow has a small population compared to those US cities you mentioned, and London, so of course it's per capita. Although a 2008 report stated that Glasgow has 200 teenage gangs, which is more than London has. And that isnt per capita, it meant that Glasgow literally has more teenage gangs than London. 6 times more, if it's on a per capita basis. Another 2008 report, said that per head of population, Glasgow is more violent than New York. Which was once notorious for it's violence levels. The crime figures for 2006-07 showed that for every 100,000 people, there were 731.39 incidents in Glasgow compared to 631.30 in New York.

There is no need to list my sources, these statistics, and findings of these (and other) reports should be very easy to find for anyone wanting to obtain them. Of course, I would say to class it as the most violent city in the developed world, may be pushing it slightly. But its definitely one of the worst. And yes, I have personally witnessed the violence that goes on in my city on a few ocassions. So Im also talking from personal experience, not just statistics.
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 15:40
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
So, the lesson learnt here is not to move to scotland ? .. coz its defnitely WAY better than other parts of the world
----


None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free
Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 16:00
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Zombie on 04.11.2010 at 15:40

So, the lesson learnt here is not to move to scotland ? .. coz its defnitely WAY better than other parts of the world

Not quite... The lesson to be learnt is don't move to Glasgow., Unless you have a lot of money, and can avoid the scummy urban areas of the city. lol
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 16:03
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
Btw, have u tried getting out of Glasgow (or moving into a better area) ? i'm sure there must be some loans program or leasing that you could take advantage of to get the hell out of your neighborhood
----


None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free
Johann Wolfgang van Goethe 1749-1832
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 16:10
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Zombie on 04.11.2010 at 16:03

Btw, have u tried getting out of Glasgow (or moving into a better area) ? i'm sure there must be some loans program or leasing that you could take advantage of to get the hell out of your neighborhood

I am right now, trying to move out of the area where Im currently living. But without the money to buy a place, Im stuck on waiting lists. And waiting lists for half decent areas are huge...
Loading...
04.11.2010 - 16:17
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Zombie on 22.08.2010 at 04:04

My turn my turn !!!
Cairo has one of the highest (if not the highest) rates of sexual harassment in the world

EDIT: According to a study released by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights (ECWR) in July, 62 percent of Egyptian men admit to sexually harassing women (Which means that ALOT more do but did not admit), and 83 percent of Egyptian women reported being harassed. (Which again, means that ALOT more have been harassed but not reported, other studies claim the actual percentage being 98%). Half say it happens every day. It was the first study of its kind.

i'm kinda curious why does this happen in Cairo while other huge islamic-culture cities have no such problems?
Loading...