vezzy Stallmanite
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 19.11.2011 at 12:47
Anyway, I always felt that their death metal period is too underrated, not by Therion fans... But by death metal fans probably because they just don't know.
Yeah, it seems so. Nirvana* and Carnage are held in higher regard, and of course are more KVLT. Plus Mike Amott was in Carnage, so what can go wrong, haaah?
*most of you will get it, but some won't
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Written by vezzy on 19.11.2011 at 12:53
Yeah, it seems so. Nirvana* and Carnage are held in higher regard, and of course are more KVLT. Plus Mike Amott was in Carnage, so what can go wrong, haaah?
I know Nirvana but Carnage was news to me, thanks for the unintentional tip!
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Written by HeavyMetalBullet on 19.11.2011 at 11:59
Written by M C Vice on 18.11.2011 at 09:04
Totally agree after being mesmerised watching them at Bloodstock this year no-one could deny the talent and I didn't hear one scream!
Having said that though is there anything wrong with a bit of screaming/growling every now and then if it's done well even if you can't quite follow the lyrics it can add layers to the music in the same way an extra instrument would.
No, I quite like mixed vocals. My prefered vocal mix is a combo of clean male, clean female and harsh(either sex, doesn't really matter which). Listen to the vocals on Theli or Lemuria, both very varied.
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Written by vezzy on 19.11.2011 at 12:27
Written by M C Vice on 18.11.2011 at 09:04
Next time someone brings up myths 9, 2 or 1, give them a Therion CD.
I don't know how this would change their minds.
Play them that, then Children Of The Stone and try to convince them it's the same band.
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vezzy Stallmanite
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 19.11.2011 at 13:19 I know Nirvana but Carnage was news to me, thanks for the unintentional tip!
What about Carnage was news to you?
If it's what I think it is, then it's weird that you've heard of Nirvana 2002 and not Carnage.
EDIT: (also Marcel quoted my post and then deleted it, I'm interested as to what it said)
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Written by vezzy on 19.11.2011 at 15:09
If it's what I think it is, then it's weird that you've heard of Nirvana 2002 and not Carnage.
I know Nirvana 2002 a long time ago, good stuff, should buy that compilation... But yeah, Carnage was unknown to me until now
I'm a selective elitist! hahahahaha
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Written by vezzy on 19.11.2011 at 15:09
Written by X-Ray Rod on 19.11.2011 at 13:19 I know Nirvana but Carnage was news to me, thanks for the unintentional tip!
What about Carnage was news to you?
If it's what I think it is, then it's weird that you've heard of Nirvana 2002 and not Carnage.
EDIT: (also Marcel quoted my post and then deleted it, I'm interested as to what it said)
Something about Nirvana 2002 and their second name and their name change into their third name, but of course that is well known.
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser StaffPosts: 9718 |
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Written by [user id=115824] on 03.11.2011 at 19:27
Well im glad to see you share some of the same views i have haha. But i understand why you say all my post are just about dagging on the music i dont like, and yes i will admit alot of my post are just that, but whats wrong with a little opinnion expressing?
Actually, many of your posts seem like less of opinions and more of some weird display of insecurity. Most of your posts seem entirely too preoccupied with how people view you as a metal fan based on the sub-genres/bands you listen to.
As for the list. Do people really still think these things? This list seems like it would be more applicable like 25 years ago...
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- Cannibal Corpse has lyrics about Satanism
- Grind avoids the topic of sex? what about the Porngrind subgenre? Also, singing about sex is not sexist.
-Very few BM musicians actually have satanic beliefs? really now?
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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Written by [user id=160] on 25.11.2011 at 04:19 Also, singing about sex is not sexist.
It can be sexist, it all depends on the context.
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Technically anything can be sexist depending on the context.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.11.2011 at 08:59
Technically anything can be sexist depending on the context.
Not really, seeing as there's plenty of subjects that have nothing to do with sex, or sexism... Take a song like "Hangar 18", for example. There's no possible context those lyrics could be taken in that could make them sexist.
So there's many subjects that no matter which way you looked at them, could be construed as sexist in any way.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.11.2011 at 09:15 "Hangar 18"
You could say a hangar by default is a sexist symbol and that Megadave drew inspiration from being surrounded by heroes in the military - whose population is predominantly male.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.11.2011 at 09:18 You could say a hangar by default is a sexist symbol and that Megadave drew inspiration from being surrounded by heroes in the military - whose population is predominantly male.
I think an idea like that would be extremely far fetched, and one that I feel fairly confident in saying that nobody has ever applied to that song. Besides, Dave has stated in interviews that the song was inspired by Nick's interest in aliens. Anyway, you couldn't really say that a hangar is by default, a sexist symbol. As there's no logical or plausible reason to class it as such. So really, the only way any subject could be construed as sexist is if people are just making things up, that are entirely unrelated to, or have no relevance to, the actual subject/topic at hand.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.11.2011 at 09:24 So really, the only way any subject could be construed as sexist is if people are just making things up, that are entirely unrelated to, or have no relevance to, the actual subject/topic at hand.
I'm not saying anything can be classified as sexist properly, just that anything can be classified as sexist, as there is always at least one person who will find a way to be offended. If it isn't sexist, it's racist. And if it isn't racist, it's sacrilegious. And if it isn't any of the above, then it isn't metal.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.11.2011 at 09:28 I'm not saying anything can be classified as sexist properly, just that anything can be classified as sexist, as there is always at least one person who will find a way to be offended. If it isn't sexist, it's racist. And if it isn't racist, it's sacrilegious. And if it isn't any of the above, then it isn't metal.
Well, I've yet to hear anyone say Hangar 18 is a sexist song, and it's highly likely that I never will hear anyone saying that.
Can anything be truly classified as sexist? No. Can anything be misinterpreted to be sexist? Perhaps, though as I've said, in certain examples, it would take a completely irrational and illogical take on a subject to see it as such. (not to mention a huge stretch in the imagination) The point I was making is, sex is a subject that can be used in a sexist context very easily and readily, and when it is, it's also usually very obvious. This is something that certainly can't be applied to every subject under the sun. Definitely, to find a song like say, "Ride The Lightning" in any way sexist, would indicate a state of mind that no sensible person could consider rational. lol
And something not being metal isn't a reason to be offended... though I guess some idiots are offended by that.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.11.2011 at 09:48 though I guess some idiots are offended by that.
Oh I can think of one or two people...
We tend to stray off topic sometimes. For the sake of this thread I will leave before any more damage is done. >>
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I have some myths for you that I have heard through out the years .....
All Metal sounds the same....
They are all a bunch of alcoholics and drug addicts....
Nirvana KILLED metal.....
Hard rock/Heavy Metal is the most popular form of music today.....
Iron Maiden is THE most popular metal act today.....
Lars killed Cliff because Cliff wanted Lars out of the band
Chuck Shuldiner where gay and died of Aids/HIV.....
The Old bands made come backs because the are all broke or in multi million dollar debts
Rob Hallford has a monitor infront of the stage with the lyrics because he forgets them all the time
Kirk Hammet is gay
Alice Cooper has the biggest ego in rock next to Gene Simmons
Ozzy is a "puppet on a string"
Paul Stanley have ears on his neck
James Hetfield's late in life collection of tatoos proofs that he's got a mid life crisis
Yeah that's about it
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Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 15:39
Rob Hallford has a monitor infront of the stage with the lyrics because he forgets them all the time
Taht is not a myth, it's the truth I have seen him read his lyrics off monitors and also off sheets of paper.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.11.2011 at 15:44
Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 15:39
Rob Hallford has a monitor infront of the stage with the lyrics because he forgets them all the time
Taht is not a myth, it's the truth I have seen him read his lyrics off monitors and also off sheets of paper.
wow really? ....that's funny and worrying at the same time
Myth confirmed
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Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 15:39 James Hetfield's late in life collection of tatoos proofs that he's got a mid life crisis
I think Hetfield's willingness to collaborate with Lou Reed is a sure-fire sign he's going through a mid-life crisis.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.11.2011 at 22:30
Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 15:39 James Hetfield's late in life collection of tatoos proofs that he's got a mid life crisis
I think Hetfield's willingness to collaborate with Lou Reed is a sure-fire sign he's going through a mid-life crisis.
nah that's just a normal WTF am I doing moments, but if he would have collaborate with the Biebmeisster then it would have been a sign of mid life crisis.
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Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 23:40 if he would have collaborate with the Biebmeisster then it would have been a sign of mid life crisis.
How is collaborating with Lou Reed any different? At least Justin Bieber is relevant in today's music scene.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 26.11.2011 at 23:41
Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 23:40 if he would have collaborate with the Biebmeisster then it would have been a sign of mid life crisis.
How is collaborating with Lou Reed any different? At least Justin Bieber is relevant in today's music scene.
well isn't a mid life crisis when you try to look,bee and /or try doing stuff younger people do? Soo do you think "young" people want to do a record with Reed or Bieber
No wait....isn't a mid life crisis when you do stuff you whould've wanted to do when you where young?....like bying a sport car, getting a tatoo or buy a Harley....then a collaboration with Reed whould be a sign of a mid life crisis
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Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 23:53 No wait....isn't a mid life crisis when you do stuff you whould've wanted to do when you where young?....like bying a sport car, getting a tatoo or buy a Harley....then a collaboration with Reed whould be a sign of a mid life crisis
There we go!
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Dont know which point it comes under, but its something that sincerely pissed me off. My brother has aspergers and depression. He's had problems since he was born. The other day, he got into a fight because some one spilt his drink, and beat the living piss out of him. He was wearing a Metallica ...And Justice for all Shirt, so they attributed his anger to listening to metal, just completely and utterly forgetting about his mental and emotional issues.
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(Sorry to hear about your brother, firstly.)
That's probably the worst metalhead stereotype. Reminds me of that Hillside Strangler guy. He wore an AC/DC cap so everyone said that's what drove him to murder so many people.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 03.12.2011 at 02:26
(Sorry to hear about your brother, firstly.)
That's probably the worst metalhead stereotype. Reminds me of that Hillside Strangler guy. He wore an AC/DC cap so everyone said that's what drove him to murder so many people.
AC/DC? Come on. Come over to Australia, my fucking Nan listens to AC/DC. Theyre a national treasure here.
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They even have AC/DC lullaby CDs these days. Totally not a Satanic band that drives you into a homicidal rampage.
Unless he was backmasking their LPs and there's some subliminal messaging I'm unaware of.
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Written by arwestromen on 26.11.2011 at 15:39
Ozzy is a "puppet on a string"
Metaphorically speaking, he kind of is.
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