i think SOAD is awesome! anyways, who cares whatt genre they're classified in, they rule! I love how they differ in the moods in their songs. sometimes theyre serious, sometimes they're not. There is nothing missing in SOAD!

Written by [user id=10972] on 13.07.2006 at 16:19

Why are they "inactive" on metalstorm?

System Of A Down is not a fully featered Metal Storm band. They are only here on the site (but with a 'closed' band profile) because someone (ic Herzebeth) wrote a review about one of their albums (ic "Toxicity", link)
Same thing with Slipknot for example. Slipknot is also an 'invisible' band and so NOT featered on MS only because a review was written about one of their albums.
The reason why is that MS prefers not to add Nu Metal-like bands especially those with a rather arguable reputation and fame in the Metal world... (like Slipknot for example)

Written by Thryce on 23.07.2006 at 17:43

Written by [user id=10972] on 13.07.2006 at 16:19

Why are they "inactive" on metalstorm?

System Of A Down is not a fully featered Metal Storm band. They are only here on the site (but with a 'closed' band profile) because someone (ic Herzebeth) wrote a review about one of their albums (ic "Toxicity", link)
Same thing with Slipknot for example. Slipknot is also an 'invisible' band and so NOT featered on MS only because a review was written about one of their albums.
The reason why is that MS prefers not to add Nu Metal-like bands especially those with a rather arguable reputation and fame in the Metal world... (like Slipknot for example)

Wow, that's really lame. Denying a genre of Metal because of it's fame and popularity. Sounds like denial to me. It's still sad how people won't consider it Metal. By the way, System of a Down is alright by me.

Written by Clintagräm on 23.07.2006 at 19:50

Written by Thryce on 23.07.2006 at 17:43

Written by [user id=10972] on 13.07.2006 at 16:19

Why are they "inactive" on metalstorm?

System Of A Down is not a fully featered Metal Storm band. They are only here on the site (but with a 'closed' band profile) because someone (ic Herzebeth) wrote a review about one of their albums (ic "Toxicity", link)
Same thing with Slipknot for example. Slipknot is also an 'invisible' band and so NOT featered on MS only because a review was written about one of their albums.
The reason why is that MS prefers not to add Nu Metal-like bands especially those with a rather arguable reputation and fame in the Metal world... (like Slipknot for example)

Wow, that's really lame. Denying a genre of Metal because of it's fame and popularity. Sounds like denial to me. It's still sad how people won't consider it Metal. By the way, System of a Down is alright by me.

Well I don't know the official reason, but that's just an unofficial interpretation
Besides I never said MS doesn't consider Slipknot and SOAD as being Metal

Written by Thryce on 23.07.2006 at 20:03

Written by Clintagräm on 23.07.2006 at 19:50

Written by Thryce on 23.07.2006 at 17:43

Written by [user id=10972] on 13.07.2006 at 16:19

Why are they "inactive" on metalstorm?

System Of A Down is not a fully featered Metal Storm band. They are only here on the site (but with a 'closed' band profile) because someone (ic Herzebeth) wrote a review about one of their albums (ic "Toxicity", link)
Same thing with Slipknot for example. Slipknot is also an 'invisible' band and so NOT featered on MS only because a review was written about one of their albums.
The reason why is that MS prefers not to add Nu Metal-like bands especially those with a rather arguable reputation and fame in the Metal world... (like Slipknot for example)

Wow, that's really lame. Denying a genre of Metal because of it's fame and popularity. Sounds like denial to me. It's still sad how people won't consider it Metal. By the way, System of a Down is alright by me.

Well I don't know the official reason, but that's just an unofficial interpretation
Besides I never said MS doesn't consider Slipknot and SOAD as being Metal

I know you're not but there's a lot of people out there (and here) who do. I just find it lame. One of the few bad (or moreoever pathetic) sides of the Metal community.

Yeah it seems alot of people here want to forget that entire nu-metal phase ever happend which to me is fine because many of the bands who got thrown into that really had no affiliation to metal at all. On the other hand a real metal band like System of a Down got thrown into that and I feel they do deserve a spot here on MetalStorm. When I was younger System was one of the main bands that got me into metal. I like all of their albums alot and still listen to them every once in awhile but I would have to say there latest album Hypnotize was my favorite release from them. I really like how chaotic the vocals on all of there albums are and there crazy lyrics are cool aswell. This band is not nu-metal they are just a metal band it's a simple as that.

Written by Clintagräm on 24.07.2006 at 03:34

I know you're not but there's a lot of people out there (and here) who do. I just find it lame. One of the few bad (or moreoever pathetic) sides of the Metal community.

Well I totally agree with you anyway. The narrow-mindedness of some metalheads/MS'ers is sometimes pathetic and awful indeed.
I like System Of A Down and I just don't care others don't

Written by Thryce on 24.07.2006 at 13:05

The narrow-mindedness of some metalheads/MS'ers is sometimes pathetic and awful indeed.
I like System Of A Down and I just don't care others don't

Indeedly do. SOAD in definately a band that deserves its spot on MS! I mean.... Deftones are here (thank god!), Killswitch Engage etc., why not bands such SOAD and especially SOAD? I was just reading the FAQ where they state that there are bands on MS that are rock or so, but were important for metal (Black Sabbath and so, old rock bands), and I really can't understand why nu-metal and metalcore and even alternative rock couldn't be icluded. I mean nu metal is just as much of a metak genre as black or so and it's a stage of development of metal music. Just as rock once was. Just becase nu metal is a fairly new genre with a great mass of listeners, doesn't mean it's not metal. And why is nu metal so popular? Because the music is good! Ok, not all, it's just like any other genre that has bands that rokczzzzz my sockzzzzz and bands that suck, but SOAD is definately a band that is worth listening to, IMO it's one of the best bands of its genre! And if people would give them a listen instead of being all ''oh nu metal crap'', they'd see what an amazing band they're missing. ag!

I love all System Of A Down songs!!Its a awesome band!!

I don't like them. I just can't listen to their songs, they are so full of these lalala and can't hear to that. I understand why other people like them but not for me.

System of a down great great great band i have all album and i have a t-shirt and poster my best band in nu - metal !!!

Erm I don't wanna get all cocky here because basically I like everyone who likes SOAD But it is a FACT that SOAD is not nu metal! They basically can't be described other than alternative metal, because they sound is just... non-describable and very unique. But definately not nu metal.

System,
I like them but now I hate them, they are only studio musicians, (which doesnt impress me) they sell politics in their music for shock content. They are extremely overrated.

But I do like their first two albums!

Their first albums do the trick, after them it all went downhill. There was this funny lyrics in one of their latest albums (I always confuse the names) that go like this: "My cock is much bigger than yours?"; I found that pretty funny. lol

@ Darth Satanious : the song is called "Cigaro" and comes off 'Mezmerize' (the first half of the Mezmerize/Hypnotize double album)

Wikipedia has the following to say about those funny lyrics : "According to various 'interpreters' at the songmeanings.net site, it is commonly believed that this song refers to the whole Bush (or just the American government in general) vs Fidel Castro "battle of wits". The cigaro bit refers to the stereotype of Cubans always smoking cigars ("cigarro" in Spanish), whereas the propegators of all genocide thing refers to the American response to it. The opening lyrics of comparing penis sizes and feces stink levels is commonly believed to be referring to the belief that this battle between America and Cuba has become petty, and to show that pettiness they include a fittingly petty insult - "Yeah? Well, my penis is bigger!". The general consensus is that the song is political and that it refers to world leader's petty arguments and the ensuing wars.

It has been explained by guitarrist Daron Malakian as a song meant to parody and thus ridicule egotistical, materialistic people who believe that their possessions make them superior to others."

lol faece stink levels
i liked steal this album and toxicity,but i pretty much got bored of them.they make good fun lyrics though

Written by Thryce on 17.08.2006 at 14:38

@ Darth Satanious : the song is called "Cigaro" and comes off 'Mezmerize' (the first half of the Mezmerize/Hypnotize double album)

Wikipedia has the following to say about those funny lyrics : "According to various 'interpreters' at the songmeanings.net site, it is commonly believed that this song refers to the whole Bush (or just the American government in general) vs Fidel Castro "battle of wits". The cigaro bit refers to the stereotype of Cubans always smoking cigars ("cigarro" in Spanish), whereas the propegators of all genocide thing refers to the American response to it. The opening lyrics of comparing penis sizes and feces stink levels is commonly believed to be referring to the belief that this battle between America and Cuba has become petty, and to show that pettiness they include a fittingly petty insult - "Yeah? Well, my penis is bigger!". The general consensus is that the song is political and that it refers to world leader's petty arguments and the ensuing wars.

It has been explained by guitarrist Daron Malakian as a song meant to parody and thus ridicule egotistical, materialistic people who believe that their possessions make them superior to others."

Yeah, it should come down to that since they are very political. It sort of takes some of the magic away by seeing it this way though. lol

Written by Sunioj on 13.08.2006 at 15:58

System,
I like them but now I hate them, they are only studio musicians, (which doesnt impress me) they sell politics in their music for shock content. They are extremely overrated.

But I do like their first two albums!

You took the words out of my mouth

Written by Darth Satanious on 18.08.2006 at 08:46

[...]
It sort of takes some of the magic away by seeing it this way though. lol

Yes indeed, I agree. But on the other hand it's also sometimes very nice (and even more funny) to know and understand some meanings behind some SOAD lyrics.
"Kill Rock N Roll" (Hypnotize) for example.

So I felt like the biggest asshole
(Felt like the biggest asshole)
When I killed your rock 'n roll
(Mow down the sexy people)

Eat all the grass
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen in the dark
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen in the dark
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen in the dark
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen

Turns out "Rock N Roll" is just a nickname for a rabbit Darron once ran over by night. "This song is about a rabbit. One day when it was dark, Daron pulled out of his driveway, and ran over a rabbit. When he got back home he saw there was a rabbit in his yard that looked just like the one he had run over staring at him. He named the rabbit Rock 'n' Roll, and wrote this song about him because he felt really guilty."

Written by Thryce on 18.08.2006 at 20:38

Turns out "Rock N Roll" is just a nickname for a rabbit Darron once ran over by night.

OMFG that's fucking hilarious! I tend to listen to their lyrics and I like them because they are so cryptic, but I never try to resolve them or check out the meaning But that one's awesome, I really love that song though Now I like it even more

@Hellrazer: And SOAD being overrated.... Why? Ok, so if you are annoyed by the polticial lyrics... Ermmm ever thought about listening to the MUSIC on the latest albums? I mean, if you dislike even that that makes it kay, but just because of it lyrics and because you believe they are trying to draw attention with it and that they are only studio musicans.... The first albums also dealed with PC.... I don't really get how you can dislike their music on the base of those two ''facts''...

I think this band get is undderated not overrated because if they didn't get thrown in with all that nu-metal shit I'm sure they would have gotten more respect from the metal community instead of just being pushed aside like a band such as Staind when they have nothing in common.

Written by Sunioj on 13.08.2006 at 15:58

System,
I like them but now I hate them, they are only studio musicians, (which doesnt impress me) they sell politics in their music for shock content.

I would like to know how people can get to read the other's minds. Really, there are a lot of people here which seem to have the ability to know the intentions behind the lyrics, the music just by seeing a band's commercial status. Can't a band stay true to their ideas and music and at the same time produce catchy and commercial music?

Written by Thryce on 18.08.2006 at 20:38

Written by Darth Satanious on 18.08.2006 at 08:46

[...]
It sort of takes some of the magic away by seeing it this way though. lol

Yes indeed, I agree. But on the other hand it's also sometimes very nice (and even more funny) to know and understand some meanings behind some SOAD lyrics.
"Kill Rock N Roll" (Hypnotize) for example.

So I felt like the biggest asshole
(Felt like the biggest asshole)
When I killed your rock 'n roll
(Mow down the sexy people)

Eat all the grass
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen in the dark
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen in the dark
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen in the dark
Eat all the grass that you want
Accidents happen

Turns out "Rock N Roll" is just a nickname for a rabbit Darron once ran over by night. "This song is about a rabbit. One day when it was dark, Daron pulled out of his driveway, and ran over a rabbit. When he got back home he saw there was a rabbit in his yard that looked just like the one he had run over staring at him. He named the rabbit Rock 'n' Roll, and wrote this song about him because he felt really guilty."

This is so stupid to the extent it turns out to be funny. hahaha

Written by [user id=14228] on 18.08.2006 at 20:12

Written by Sunioj on 13.08.2006 at 15:58

System,
I like them but now I hate them, they are only studio musicians, (which doesnt impress me) they sell politics in their music for shock content. They are extremely overrated.

But I do like their first two albums!

You took the words out of my mouth

I agree with you. However their last two alboums Hypnotize and Mezmerize were really good.. Although, I cannot say I hate them.

Written by Darth Satanious on 19.08.2006 at 07:46

Can't a band stay true to their ideas and music and at the same time produce catchy and commercial music?

That's exacly what I have been saying for the whole time.

And the answer is obvisouly no, because everyone thinks a band is a sell-out just because they appear on radio or whatever, f.i. that a lot of people knows a band. I just hate it when people judge bands on the base of that and don't even listen to the music.

Written by Anathemani@c on 19.08.2006 at 13:44

Written by [user id=14228] on 18.08.2006 at 20:12

Written by Sunioj on 13.08.2006 at 15:58

System,
I like them but now I hate them, they are only studio musicians, (which doesnt impress me) they sell politics in their music for shock content. They are extremely overrated.

But I do like their first two albums!

You took the words out of my mouth

I agree with you. However their last two alboums Hypnotize and Mezmerize were really good.. Although, I cannot say I hate them.

I dsn't listen much to those.. Only when my boyfriend hears them. I don't think that I hate any band, but I don't like them.. "Don't like" is a better word for it.

Written by Thryce on 23.07.2006 at 17:43

Written by [user id=10972] on 13.07.2006 at 16:19

Why are they "inactive" on metalstorm?

System Of A Down is not a fully featered Metal Storm band. They are only here on the site (but with a 'closed' band profile) because someone (ic Herzebeth) wrote a review about one of their albums (ic "Toxicity", link)
Same thing with Slipknot for example. Slipknot is also an 'invisible' band and so NOT featered on MS only because a review was written about one of their albums.
The reason why is that MS prefers not to add Nu Metal-like bands especially those with a rather arguable reputation and fame in the Metal world... (like Slipknot for example)

Many Nu Metal bands has become like a fasion to someone.. I wear a Slipknot t-shirt and I'm a Satanist.. Most of those people don't even know what Slipknot OR a "real" satanist is..

they sound good on cd but live ...my opinion is that htey "Suck !!!" ...metal or no metal by others ...they have something to say in the music industry (comercial or NOt)

I haven't heard them live yet, but I knew a couple of people who saw them at Ozzfest this year. One said they were shitty studio musicians. The other said that they brought the fucking house down with a fantastic show... Frankly, I tend to believe the former, but I just don't know for sure.

Anyway, SoaD is actually one of my favourite bands. They kinda play a very pop-ish metal right now with a fair amount of tra-la-la stuff... but many of the lyrics on their latest album are rather insightful as well... and their songs are so damned catchy.

I also greatly respect them for releasing the horribly tongue-in-cheek anti-emo song, Lonely Day, as a single.

Written by [user id=6860] on 22.08.2006 at 00:46

they sound good on cd but live ...my opinion is that htey "Suck !!!" ...metal or no metal by others ...they have something to say in the music industry (comercial or NOt)

I totally disagree with you. When I saw them here in Lisbon they were just fuckin' AMAZING! During a festival they played 27songs!! I guess I can say that it was one of the best concerts i've ever seen.. mindblowing believe me.

SOAD , nothing great with them .. hyped band , kinda slipknot and korn. I dont listen to nu meal bands ( i use to listen them , but after some time i found that they just make noise .. there are hundreds of good bands ). SOAD is different from regular choatic nu metal band agree , but agian i feel that they are monotonic. Repeating the same thing again and again.

Once a while ok .. cant listen them again and again. Again just my fking opinion