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Posted by Lord TJ, 20.09.2007 - 20:35
In this world, you have two types of metalheads. Your druggies that dont care about anything, and the metalheads that have their shit together.

It makes me mad seeing non-metal people look at us as the fucked up evil spirited no good freaks. I honestly see more metalheads that are smarter, more productive, and have more planned out than the average person.

How do you guys view all this stuff? Feel free to add to discussion!
21.09.2007 - 22:00
^Necrolust^
What does the music that you listen to has to do with your personality/?I dunno i've seen metalheads who are dumb freaks and metalheads who are interesting people with amazing personalities.It's not that they're better than the other people,they're the same just with a different music taste
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21.09.2007 - 22:27
Darth Satanious
Post Destroyer
hmm, I guess that this idea parts from the premise that, since Metal bands tend to approach different types of themes within their music, more varied than the themes of love, money, Christianity, sex, women, of the popular artists of the time, somehow, Metalheads should be encouraged to have a wider knowledge than the rest of the people that listen to popular music. But this is not necessarily. Music is not the only way to approach information and people would not be limited to what they listen.

Also, we would have to see if Metalhead exploit what they are being given in the songs and if they internalize all that. All this is mere speculation. Nothing can be said as long as tests are made in order to establish comparisons among Metalheads and non-Metalheads people, establishing distinctions of the groups that are being tested. We need Metalhead scientists that would stop taking that recurring approach to Metal, almost prejudiced, of only seeing the genre as a catalyst for violence (or not) and try to see if this genre of music has a positive reaction in its listeners.
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22.09.2007 - 17:59
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by ^Necrolust^ on 21.09.2007 at 22:00

What does the music that you listen to has to do with your personality/?I dunno i've seen metalheads who are dumb freaks and metalheads who are interesting people with amazing personalities.It's not that they're better than the other people,they're the same just with a different music taste

Totaly agree whit you in this case, i know fiew who are totaly morrons and jerks ho can talk maybe like Beavis and Buuthead, but also I know fiew who are inteligence, so i better hang whit them,, even if its rear

PS Take a glass of red wine, feel it taste it(like woman) shake it, think about it, feel coulour and smell close your eyes and then drink it

or take a botle of cheepest wine, drunk all in one and then puke it(to woman face),

...Its your choose
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23.09.2007 - 06:46
selken
Irreligious
For me the average metalhead is someone who has a stable personallity, more interested in music, both listeninga and composing, someone who prefers things well elaborated than the ones did in a hurry, an organized person but also extreme!!!
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23.09.2007 - 07:15
+{Jonas}+
I R Serious Cat
Well, the average metalhead for me is someone who knows a lot about music, at least 12.639.475.126 subgenres. But also a person who knows very well what he/she wants about life and has a clear position about everything. A very centred person, organized, megalomaniac, but accessible and friendly, no matter the genre he/she listens to.
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23.09.2007 - 08:42
Sonsofsabbath
You may have oversimplified the catagories of listeners of this genre, but sometimes you have to do this to make a point.

I picked up a copy of terrorizer today at Chapeters and the sales clerk reponded with a hint of derision in her demeanor when she retreived the two free cd s that came with the issue, which illustrates the point that generally the uninitiated do not understand the metal genre.

I went to see Celtic frost a 1349 last year at a club in victoria and I was suprised to see people from all walks of life and ages including a university professor. Metal is wide spread across all ages, incomes and intellctual capacities.
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23.09.2007 - 10:33
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Elite
Written by BurbotsRevenge on 21.09.2007 at 11:59

well check this out, and see what u think

[url] http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article2377708.ece [/url]

hmmm?

Funny article especially because of the following sentence A study has revealed that death metal and thrash bands such as Slayer and Slipknot
please explain to me how Slipknot creeps into a sentence mentioning both death metal and thrash metal.
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23.09.2007 - 10:42
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Tage Westerlund
Written by UnholyMenace on 20.09.2007 at 21:17

Stereotypes - people who see us think that an average metalhead is a hairy, stupid beer-addict and leather wearing man (a bit generalized view I know). And a lot of metalheads see themselves and other metalheads as something smarter than example a person who listens to hip-hop or trance. But there are a lot of morons in metal scene and outside it - I wouldn't say one group of people are smarter just because they listen some certain music style.

I agree about it speecly trance, if ppl are dumb bass and idiot how thay can compose doom metal and write such poetical lyrics?
Pll think so because we are diferent, thay can recognise us and it trance, and hip hop guys well in all Rīga clubs moust drugs use those who go to not metal clubs 98% and huge article about it wa spubliced, and ppl still think all metalheads are drugusers
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24.09.2007 - 04:09
+{Jonas}+
I R Serious Cat
Well, also an average metalhead is shy.
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24.09.2007 - 04:20
Kharn
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Metalhead? should that not just be someone who loves to listen to metal. i dont like the term myself, i like a few other genre's of music...but metal is where my heart is. i Love it. i don't think drugs make a difference either...some people fucked up on dugs can still keep thier shit together to write good music...two members in slayer had a big coke habit in the 80's...when was thier best material...in the 80's.

Metallers are the same as anyone else, but they listen to metal.
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24.09.2007 - 09:02
BurbotsRevenge
Foetal Butchery
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.09.2007 at 10:33

Written by BurbotsRevenge on 21.09.2007 at 11:59

well check this out, and see what u think

[url] http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article2377708.ece [/url]

hmmm?

Funny article especially because of the following sentence A study has revealed that death metal and thrash bands such as Slayer and Slipknot
please explain to me how Slipknot creeps into a sentence mentioning both death metal and thrash metal.

Slipknot is like the best death metal band ever... oh wait, they suck, my bad
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25.09.2007 - 09:28
Hembrom
Diabolic Priest
Dumb Topic , Lame Discussion
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01.10.2007 - 02:02
Lowelas OF FIRE
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Okay, on a serious note, I think what caused alot ov the world to think negatively about the Metal sub-culture is the '90's Cartoon, BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD , many think that Metallians are all just like Beavis And Butthead lol. Though I love that show.

In The Bahamas, the Metal scene is quite poor though............ As a person, I don't really feel like oppressed as a metal fan.
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01.10.2007 - 02:31
4look4rd
The Sasquatch
People make this false image of metalheads thanks to the 80s hair metal and the early 90s/ late 80s thrash metal scene, when many musicians did indeed correspond to those relations. However, this stereotypical idea is cleary not fair anymore.

K7 stated an interesting point, before they start talking bullshit about Metal, why they dont give a try? Why not read a few Doom metal lyrics or some other genre that has something to do with the person's personality. Well, I got my parents into Shape of Despair a few years ago just by showing them one of their songs
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01.10.2007 - 04:02
Lowelas OF FIRE
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most ov what's mentioned in the article, well it's bad examples ov bands, msot ov them are Nu-Metal bands
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02.10.2007 - 05:52
Kap'N Korrupt
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Written by Hembrom on 25.09.2007 at 09:28

Dumb Topic , Lame Discussion

Oh I for sure agree with this...but there is so much of this on Metalstorm...if it were my way, I would see to it that a lot of these inane topics with typical and equally inane discussions be eliminated...oh, in a perfect world...just an excuse to post something I guess right?
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02.10.2007 - 08:05
juliocb
well, I'm the kind of metalhead that doesn't drink much, do not smoke, and do not take drugs. And yes, I have high notes on school. AND FUKIN YEAH, I fukin love to go to gigs and I love black metal the most. I hate it when some addict "metalhead" tells you you are not a blacker just cause you don't smoke or take drugs, even though you know 10 times more of music than him..but oh well. what can we do for ignorance and weaker people?
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02.10.2007 - 10:15
Woutjinho
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I dont care what people think about me
they disrepect me, I disrespect them. its that simple

I dare to speak out loud, I drink, I smoke but I dont use drugs that often. so I quess most people wont think quite positive about me
but what the hell: I got things planned in my future. University and that kinda shit
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02.10.2007 - 13:35
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=26136] on 02.10.2007 at 10:15

I dont care what people think about me
they disrepect me, I disrespect them. its that simple

I dare to speak out loud, I drink, I smoke but I dont use drugs that often. so I quess most people wont think quite positive about me
but what the hell: I got things planned in my future. University and that kinda shit

Thats how it shood be we shood care about our selfs not care about what others think
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02.10.2007 - 18:54
Warman
Erotic Stains
As I see it many Metalheadz are nice people and often intelligent. Creative and knows a lot about music too of course, but that's obvious I think. But I can obviously not give a objective opinion about this subject.
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03.10.2007 - 08:43
Hembrom
Diabolic Priest
Written by [user id=2084] on 02.10.2007 at 05:52

Written by Hembrom on 25.09.2007 at 09:28

Dumb Topic , Lame Discussion

Oh I for sure agree with this...but there is so much of this on Metalstorm...if it were my way, I would see to it that a lot of these inane topics with typical and equally inane discussions be eliminated...oh, in a perfect world...just an excuse to post something I guess right?

Yeah kinda , when i started doing foruming in MS .... i use to reply in each and every post !! But after few years what i see that the same topic is been discussed with different angel. I think i am getting old or i am too lazy to post my views on the topics
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03.10.2007 - 10:15
BrightNight
I see and know lots of metalhead people who are on universitie and i dont know one who is on a low educated skool. This doesnt mean that metal heads are all smarter or more intelligent then average people. But i think that most of us are more intelectual and brighter thinkers then the "average" person.

Yes i think most metalheads are a bit more intelligent then the average people. Compared to hardcore and R&B people (if we have to label ) i honestly think metalheads are more intelligent and our subculture is not so shallow minded.
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06.10.2007 - 21:49
Bulletdodger
You notice a Metalhead either by his T-shirts and Outfit , or by the look on his face , or by both
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08.10.2007 - 01:24
rageing atheist
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I don't know how's the situation in abroad, but in Estonia "average metalheads" seem to often be very close minded towards experimentation, musical influences outside metal and stuff like that. Judging by the numerous reviews on the net, it seems that the "average metalheads" in other countries are also a pretty close minded bunch, though maybe the more close minded people stick out so I notice them more often than down to earth and open minded metal fans.
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08.10.2007 - 21:18
Woutjinho
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in civilization most metalheads arent narrow minded
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08.10.2007 - 21:32
Tod_Engel
Written by [user id=23267] on 08.10.2007 at 01:24

I don't know how's the situation in abroad, but in Estonia "average metalheads" seem to often be very close minded towards experimentation, musical influences outside metal and stuff like that. Judging by the numerous reviews on the net, it seems that the "average metalheads" in other countries are also a pretty close minded bunch, though maybe the more close minded people stick out so I notice them more often than down to earth and open minded metal fans.

I agree with you. A lot Estonian metalheads tend to dislike anything untraditional in metal, as you mentioned. If I'm talking about interesting experimenting bands to metalheads, they just start to bash it. For example once I let a guy listen to Atheist's Unquestionable Presence, he couldn't stand it, because it sounded too "funky" for him. It's just a problem with most of people everywhere, most of them have their narrow taste in music.
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08.10.2007 - 21:48
Woutjinho
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thats just another taste in music. some people only like it heavy and fast. and not the funky stuff or anything else combined with it.
please dont call it narrowminded because the bands dont have 20 styles combined in one song
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09.10.2007 - 03:10
Arian Totalis
The Philosopher
We belong to a unique subculture, filled with our own customs and diversity like no other genre of music. We live in a certain lifestyle found nowhere else, and we are all different kinds of individuals. However, we can still spot eachother in crowds, we can see who is a real fan and who isn't, and of course there are those who we would never guess such things about, but when they get home from their regulation haircut, cubical, office jobs, they are just as true through and through. There is no such thing as an "Average" metalhead, though there may be stereotypes, we are all very unique individuals.
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10.10.2007 - 00:13
rageing atheist
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Written by [user id=26136] on 08.10.2007 at 21:48

thats just another taste in music. some people only like it heavy and fast. and not the funky stuff or anything else combined with it.
please dont call it narrowminded because the bands dont have 20 styles combined in one song

If the bands do not have 20 styles combined in one song they are not narrowminded and neither I nor Tod_Engel said they are, however, people who say that bands suck because of mixing different styles, or for disregard for conventional song structure etc. are narrowminded. People who don't like bands who break the rules are also not narrow minded when they dislike the music of the bands who break the rules, they are narrowminded, however, when they dislike the fact that bands are breaking the rules, as narrowmindedness can be defined as "being not receptive to new (or unfamiliar) ideas", and I'm under the impression that alot of metalheads dislike too unfamiliar ideas in music. How else would one explain that more often than not the bands that are more conservative and reluctant to experiment have more success than bands that are too different from the rest (Cannibal Corpse vs Gorguts for example)?
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10.10.2007 - 12:15
Woutjinho
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Written by [user id=23267] on 10.10.2007 at 00:13

Written by [user id=26136] on 08.10.2007 at 21:48

thats just another taste in music. some people only like it heavy and fast. and not the funky stuff or anything else combined with it.
please dont call it narrowminded because the bands dont have 20 styles combined in one song

If the bands do not have 20 styles combined in one song they are not narrowminded and neither I nor Tod_Engel said they are, however, people who say that bands suck because of mixing different styles, or for disregard for conventional song structure etc. are narrowminded. People who don't like bands who break the rules are also not narrow minded when they dislike the music of the bands who break the rules, they are narrowminded, however, when they dislike the fact that bands are breaking the rules, as narrowmindedness can be defined as "being not receptive to new (or unfamiliar) ideas", and I'm under the impression that alot of metalheads dislike too unfamiliar ideas in music. How else would one explain that more often than not the bands that are more conservative and reluctant to experiment have more success than bands that are too different from the rest (Cannibal Corpse vs Gorguts for example)?

so you do say people are narrowminded when people dislike bands that experiment with different styles. (so combining more styles together)
but its a matter of taste, some people like stuff with funk and alternative etc and some stick to thrash or death. its not necessarely narrowminded
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