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The Four Horsemen (Metallica) vs Mechanix (Megadeth)



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Posted by DIE_by_my_HAND, 17.05.2006 - 04:29
These two songs almost encapsulate the continuing battle between Megadeth, Metallica, and their fans. On the one hand you've got the origional "The Four Horsemen" on Metallica's debut "Kill 'Em All" album which was a speedy, furious epic about Hell's messengers. Now, you have to remember that Dave Mustaine was still in Metallica when The Four Horsement was written and had a part in writing it, so one can understand him being pissed off about being kicked out of the band right when it was on it's way up and wanting to write a "F**K YOU!" comeback song to get back at his former band. And sure enough, with Megadeth's first release, "Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good" came that song simply called "Mechanix" which had the exact same riffs as The Four Horsemen except for the altered intro.

Now, to me, both songs speak greatly of the fued between these two thrash bands, however, The Four Horsemen seems to be more controlled and clean, while Mechanix sounds a bit more sloppy, and rushed (due to its quicker tempo). The reason for this sound was probably Mustaine's being so anxious for his new bands debut to get out as quick as possible so it could compete with Kill 'Em All and possibly Metallica's next record. Regardless of it's rushed sound, you can definitely hear the anger in Mustaine's voice and even in his guitar playing, which makes it an all out angry, aggressive song.

Finally, my choice (since I'm being forced to chose) would have to be The Four Horsemen because of it's overall cleaner sound despite the emotion which is present in Mechanix.

Poll

The Four Horsemen or Mechanix?

The Four Horsemen
166
Mechanix
114

Total votes: 280
19.07.2006 - 00:10
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
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Written by [user id=641] on 15.07.2006 at 20:46

on No Life 'Til Leather, there's a song called Mechanix, written by Metallica. Did Megadeth steal this or did they write a different song?

It is almost the same song. Dave Mustaine wrote the largest part of it, and therefore also had the rights to rerecord it for Megadeth once he was out of Metallica.
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21.07.2006 - 07:02
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i voted mechanix because it doesnt matter they where both conseeved in daves head so fuck it as far as im concearned its all thanx to dave even tho hes cristian scum
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04.08.2006 - 07:46
DudeitsKevin
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Erosive Offals-

Download or Buy some megadeth, youll probably like them.

It was the same for me before I just listened to Metallica and Maiden, i didnt like Megadeth just because I liked Metallica so much and I never listened to Any songs. Then a friend told me to download some Megadeth and I actually liked the music, Megadeth is one of my favorites now. I can recommend some songs:

Holy Wars
Peace Sells
Go To Hell
Trust
Symphony of Destruction
Sweating Bullits
Angry Again

Angry Again is one of my favorite Megadeth songs, I just dont like how they put that riff at the beginning, they should of left it by the chorus.
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04.08.2006 - 07:50
DudeitsKevin
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I agree with the Asshole confict going in here. Dave is an Asshole but so are Lars and James. It doesnt matter whos and asshole or who isn't you either like their music or you dont.

I also want to say this to I HATE THE LOAD AND RE-LOAD ALBUMS! Do any of you know what the Album pictures ARE??? ITS DISGUSTING! An artist took 2 peices of glass, put blood and piss inbetween them and took a picture!
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12.08.2006 - 03:55
simonfelce
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Thank god james wrote new lyrics to that song!! the four horsemen destroys the mechanix in every single bit of the song!!
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10.11.2006 - 17:28
MegaJuan
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mechanix is better coz TRASH METAL is a speed evolution of metal, and is difficult to play and sing the same song, faster.
Megadeth Rules.
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11.11.2006 - 06:30
MigraineBoy
In this fight I'm always with Mustaine, but come on...The Four Horsemen is a landmark!
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10.03.2007 - 02:40
ThrashMetal_Rulz
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Well, even though Dave wrote both songs, Four Horseman is better.
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11.03.2007 - 11:29
marillionfan
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I like The Four Horsemen more.
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13.03.2007 - 04:19
FTW
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Four Horseman easily wins this topic. Overall better sounding, more clean and the lyrics are amazing. Not bad for an 19 yr old kid.
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14.03.2007 - 14:38
Valentin B
Iconoclast
i honestly forgot what i voted for, but i really like the four horsemen better, since mechanix is basically an all-out speed-thrash fest, and the four horsemen has some rhythm, the verse riff also kicks ass. mechanix though is a lot more catchier, and i remember i like the prechorus section better than the four horsemen's, but metallica takes the cake
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14.03.2007 - 18:26
Kharn
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I Prefer the lyrics in the four horsemen apart from the fact that james hetfield couldnt get all the horsemens names right. "Time" is not one of them is it?

War
Famine
Pestilence
Death
But in my eyes metallica owe a lot to Dave...A Bunch of their first songs are his.
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16.06.2007 - 04:08
4look4rd
The Sasquatch
Megadeth is much supperior than metallica. Best metallica songs and riffs were written by Dave, although Megadeth isnt that great either, they sure have better albums than metallica
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16.06.2007 - 04:47
APOHAKC
The Bard
Mechani - Megadeth. Much more explosive song that The Four Horseman and altough I love both songs that power and Dave's voice got my vote
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16.06.2007 - 08:50
graywolf87
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The Four Horsemen all the way...period
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18.06.2007 - 08:13
Torture Killer
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Four Horsemen.
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14.08.2007 - 01:22
Warman
Erotic Stains
Written by Nyxgrinder on 14.08.2007 at 00:09

Why is James always saying "yeah" like a fuken retarded he gets on my nerves

Hey, that's like the fourth time I've seen you write that in less than an hour. Maybe because no one cares???
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14.08.2007 - 20:47
Knightrider
The Sorcerer
The Four Horsemen. It is one of my favorite Metallica´s song.
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15.08.2007 - 21:25
Nils-Erik
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I like the song The Four Horsemen better, but it's still Mustaine's song, so.. I don't really know. Think I'll vote for The Four Horsemen.
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21.08.2007 - 10:59
Edible Autopsy
I like the speed Mechanix is played at. But The Four Horsemen has far better lyrics. Plus the interlude is the shit.
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27.08.2007 - 05:47
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METALLICA DEFINIETLY WINS THIS ONE!
I MEAN MEGADETH KICKS ASS
BUT FOUR HORSEMENS SIMPLY PUT TOGETHER BETTER!
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27.08.2007 - 16:51
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Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=25484] on 27.08.2007 at 05:47

METALLICA DEFINIETLY WINS THIS ONE!
I MEAN MEGADETH KICKS ASS
BUT FOUR HORSEMENS SIMPLY PUT TOGETHER BETTER!

You shood not post all post in caps read FAQ
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31.08.2007 - 04:42
Mindheist
No Longer Human
Here's the thing, when Dave Mustaine released his first debut, he wanted it to make it faster and better than, Kill'Em'All. Let's be professional here and let's confess that he succeeded in some places and others he didn't. Basically, he is a good composer and guitar player BUT he shouldn't have decided to sing in Megadeth, that's it. Mechanix and The Four Horsemen are exactly the proof. Surely, Dave didn't solve his main problem which is "singing" and he'll never get over it, and that's the main reason why I prefer The Four Horsemen and not Mechanix, I respect James Hetfield not only because he's the frontman of the big Legendary Metallica from the "Big Four" but also because he knows what to do and he's good for what he does, that's it, maybe Dave is better than him on Guitar (I doubt) but clearly he's better than Dave in singing, and to be honest Dave is not a singer, he's just an idiot man trying to prove (mainly) to Metallica that they shouldn't have fired him from first,

Dear Dave Mustaine, my advise for you is to get over your never-ending pain and jealousy, you're a good composer and a good guitar player, but don't re-release a Metallica cover again because everyone will notice the great difference between James and you, between singing and screaming as a child.

If you claim that you're a singer, not a good singer, just a singer, than Palestinians and Jews are dancing arm in arm in the streets of Hebrew.

Stonebearer.
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18.10.2007 - 12:13
Rattlehead77
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Stonebearer are you serious?

You're not being proffesional all of what you said was your own opinion, and i think it's shit.

MY opinion is that James sings like shit on the four horsemen, pretty much shit in general actually, Master of puppets is an exception.

"maybe Dave is better than him on Guitar (I doubt)" yeah, that is good you doubt that, because dave is way better than james.

and what the fuck? you think dave is not a singer, but an idiot man trying to prove something. yeah trying to prove something, and he did prove that he was better than metallica, but i think he can sing, maybe not to the extent of someone like Dio or Sebastian Bach or Vince Neil even but Dave can sing, and sing well enough for the music he plays.

MECHANIX ALL THE WAY
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18.10.2007 - 12:47
Nixx
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The Four Horsemen, why?
'cos mechanix sounds like **** compared to it, and that comes from a Megadeth fan.
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18.10.2007 - 13:03
Woutjinho
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james' vocals were why better back then
I hate dave's voice
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24.10.2007 - 18:34
m3ta1he4d
The Four Horsemen!!! "the horsemen are drawing nearer, on leather steeds they ride, they've come to take your life.."
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10.12.2007 - 20:58
RockeRoy
Megadeth's version don't have a couple of the great parts metallica versions have, the solo for once!
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12.12.2007 - 09:43
DrunkenFuck
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I find it funny that somehow a lot of people in this thread think that just because dave was in Metallica and got writing credit for this song (Four Horsemen), that he wrote all of it. That's wrong, it was a combined effort from both James, Dave and Lars.

Anyways, I voted The Four Horsemen, it's a killer song, with a killer chorus.
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12.12.2007 - 21:09
Demonmayonnaise
I love both songs. I really like ths speed on Mechanix. I love the lyrics on The Four Horseman though. Maybe Ill flip a coin or something, cuz i cant choose on my own.
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