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Isnt it supposed to be "Left Hand Path"? All forms of black magic are called that (Satanism included). Just wondering...
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Hyvaarin
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Thanks for reading .
Left = "values the advancement and preservation of the self, glorification of the earthly, and personal power" (ie. BLACK METAL)
Right = "elevation of the spiritual over the carnal; faith-based worship of one or more deities and the observance of strict moral codes which are supposed to bring humans closer to the Divine" (ie. CHRISTIANITY, etc.)
(Those definitions are from Wikipedia.)
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Syk myspace/bonerama
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I can't remember if I've heard any Gorg music, maybe one forgettable track, but wasn't plumbing around before electric music?
I can't speak for the rest of his character but that's a pretty fucking dumb aspect...
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Asitis
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Dude, you should see the documentary.
I used to think Gaahl as a fuckin dumb dude, but that documentary made me see totally otherwise. I was totally blown away by its story..
As for the article, I totally agree. Exactly my thoughts when I saw the docu.
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Hyvaarin
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Written by Asitis on 01.08.2007 at 02:21
As for the article, I totally agree. Exactly my thoughts when I saw the docu.
Awesome! And yeah, Gaahl definitely comes across as an intelligent dude.
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tulkas el parcero
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is there any other site where i can watch the videos or possibly to download them? i've been having trouble watching them.
so far i've seen part 1 and 2, and up to that point it's interesting, but i'll wait till i can see the whole 5 parts to post an opinion...
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tulkas el parcero
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nah, nevermind, it loaded after i posted, damn internet!
anyway, i think that no matter what the real intention of this documentary was, what we can clearly see is the ideology of black metal, as gaahl says it's the rejection of the contemporary and fighing that until the end. he said something like: 'you can't put down your sword, because you would loose' and i guess that explains his radical rejection of the world, so to speak. not to mention the whole recording process in 'low quality', also probably beacuse as king said in the beggining it's not a band about the blastbeat and how high a shreik is, it's about a message...
this is also shown, imo, when he talks about the sheep and the goat, or the right and left hand, and how the only true god people should follow is the one within ourselves, 'cause that's the only real thing, other gods just tell you to do this or act like that... it's choosing the side which you belive makes you what you are, seeing into yourself, and then looking outside at the world and realizing that they are 'wrong'. (queer paragraph, hehe)
then, when he takes them to the walk to show them their grandparents house up in the mountain, he clearly sees that the interviwers got lost in the whole thing, and as he says and the end something like you're not focused and can't see what i'm saying, and i guess that long stare and then the look on the cameraman just shows how he thinks they are from the common 'sheep'.
don't know if i make my point clear...
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Hembrom Diabolic Priest
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Gaahl's defiantly individualistic way of living and thinking matches up perfectly with the violent rejection of Right-Hand Path, collectivist religion that is found in BM.
Sounds pretty good. Enjoyed the article and i saw the Gaahl documentary , true fking grim.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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I cant see that video in link what you psot?
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Hyvaarin
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Written by Bad English on 23.10.2007 at 13:47
I cant see that video in link what you psot?
Ahh, they must've taken it down . It's probably on Youtube, try searching 'Gorgoroth documentary' or something.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by Hyvaarin on 23.10.2007 at 15:12
Written by Bad English on 23.10.2007 at 13:47
I cant see that video in link what you psot?
Ahh, they must've taken it down . It's probably on Youtube, try searching 'Gorgoroth documentary' or something.
Hmm can you find it and psot link here and quote me thenn
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Eternal Flames
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Okay, firstly for anyone who is having trouble viewing the documentary, it has been posted on youtube in 5 parts.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Moving on. That was a very interesting documentary and an interesting insight into Gaahl's ideologies and lifestyle. The article is a very fascinating interpretation of the underlying ideas of black metal as well. You bring up some very good points regarding the isolation concept in relation to black metal and to an extent, I quite precisely agree with you.
Personally, I don't believe that music (whether it be black metal or classical) has one distinct meaning or message. Judging from that interview, for Gorgoroth it definitely seems like "an acceptance of the previous way of doing things", however I think each band should have something different to offer to the genre rather than all just base themselves around this one particular idea.
Gaahl's long stare at the end of the documentary had me a but puzzled though. I wasn't too sure what to think. It seemed like he was confused and lost for words but then on the other hand, it made me think that perhaps it was just the idea of isolation and Gaahl not wanting to express his true ideas/intentions to the journalists.
Nevertheless, very interesting article and you've brought in some very intriguing ideas that did not occur to me before.
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Hyvaarin
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Written by Eternal Flames on 28.10.2007 at 08:02
Okay, firstly for anyone who is having trouble viewing the documentary, it has been posted on youtube in 5 parts.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Moving on. That was a very interesting documentary and an interesting insight into Gaahl's ideologies and lifestyle. The article is a very fascinating interpretation of the underlying ideas of black metal as well. You bring up some very good points regarding the isolation concept in relation to black metal and to an extent, I quite precisely agree with you.
Personally, I don't believe that music (whether it be black metal or classical) has one distinct meaning or message. Judging from that interview, for Gorgoroth it definitely seems like "an acceptance of the previous way of doing things", however I think each band should have something different to offer to the genre rather than all just base themselves around this one particular idea.
Gaahl's long stare at the end of the documentary had me a but puzzled though. I wasn't too sure what to think. It seemed like he was confused and lost for words but then on the other hand, it made me think that perhaps it was just the idea of isolation and Gaahl not wanting to express his true ideas/intentions to the journalists.
Nevertheless, very interesting article and you've brought in some very intriguing ideas that did not occur to me before.
Thanks for the links and the comments . I do agree with your point that not all BM bands base themselves around this one idea (haven't thought this through, but take Emperor as an example...), but it's undeniable that there are certain attitudes/ideas on which all (real) Bm is necessarily based.
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Eternal Flames
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Written by Hyvaarin on 28.10.2007 at 10:46
Written by Eternal Flames on 28.10.2007 at 08:02
Okay, firstly for anyone who is having trouble viewing the documentary, it has been posted on youtube in 5 parts.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Moving on. That was a very interesting documentary and an interesting insight into Gaahl's ideologies and lifestyle. The article is a very fascinating interpretation of the underlying ideas of black metal as well. You bring up some very good points regarding the isolation concept in relation to black metal and to an extent, I quite precisely agree with you.
Personally, I don't believe that music (whether it be black metal or classical) has one distinct meaning or message. Judging from that interview, for Gorgoroth it definitely seems like "an acceptance of the previous way of doing things", however I think each band should have something different to offer to the genre rather than all just base themselves around this one particular idea.
Gaahl's long stare at the end of the documentary had me a but puzzled though. I wasn't too sure what to think. It seemed like he was confused and lost for words but then on the other hand, it made me think that perhaps it was just the idea of isolation and Gaahl not wanting to express his true ideas/intentions to the journalists.
Nevertheless, very interesting article and you've brought in some very intriguing ideas that did not occur to me before.
Thanks for the links and the comments . I do agree with your point that not all BM bands base themselves around this one idea (haven't thought this through, but take Emperor as an example...), but it's undeniable that there are certain attitudes/ideas on which all (real) Bm is necessarily based.
Oh yes, you're definitely right with that one. Most black metal is usually based around the one concept, or similar concepts. Although for me, the most outstanding and memorable black metal bands are the ones that will do something slightly different to the rest of the bands around their era. (Bathory, Enslaved, Alcest, Solefald etc). Doesn't have to be entirely unique, as long as it's not too cliche.
I must admit before watching that documentary, I laughed at Gorgoroth's imagery/ideologies/etc, although after watching that documentary it's given me a slightly different opinion on their imagery/ideologies.
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Stalker Lone wanderer
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This sounds pretty interesting... Although I would like to see that film, then it would be complete picture...
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Warman Erotic Stains
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Haha, Gaahl's awesome! I think you're on something here. I'll think about it when I'll write my examination paper about Black Metal.
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BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
I watched the documentary and some of his facial expressions are really intriguing. That moment of silence in the end is sinister... I just don't know how to explain it, it gives me a weird feeling. The guy says "guide me" and it seems that Gaahl is saying "you're the only one who can guide yourself" with that silence. Just a thought.
Apart from that, I like watching those types of pieces because it helps me to understand black metal a bit more.
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Hyvaarin
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The look at the end is halfway between a slap-forehead-in-frustration and a oh-shit-I-have-no-idea.
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Valentin B Iconoclast
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wow, this thing was quite enlightening, thanks for posting it.. sure i might not agree AT ALL with what this dude is doing(and furthermore i think the guys at gorgoroth are assholes) but nice insight man.
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Shadowcross The Summoner
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Great article Hyvaarin
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