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I'm a little sick and tired of reviewers arbitrarily giving metalcore records 1/10. I don't really listen to metalcore but even some of the worst probably deserve more than that for musicianship, ability to string a chord together etc. even if it is ripped off.
Most of the time it just shows how limited metallers are and how bound by their own ego and need to prove a point to their peers about how metal they are. It's particularly irritating as all metalcore reviews invariably begin with a short diatribe on how the scene is full of copy-cats, is in a constant state of degradation etc. not to mention you could bet your house on the fact that the image of the band and its prospective fans will be brought into question, ironic considering it's just as passe to mostly ignore the fact that a vast number of metal bands are just as guilty of plagiarism as its metalcore counterparts; not something many are willing to admit.
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Written by Roro on 07.07.2010 at 15:00
Written by flickaa on 28.06.2010 at 03:01
I must say that Ican definately relate to what you're talking about.. not so long ago I met some metalhead that was very proud of buying his newly born son some "metal clothes" , no offense to anybody here with kids.. but thats effing stupid... because y would you corrupt ur kid in such way? he cant do nothing about it.... and here you are ... thinking ur soooooOOO metal buying ur kid some metalhead clothing??? dude hes a kid... like wtf??? thats lame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol i wished my parents did the same when i was a kid. i'd have now tons of metal clothes hahaha
I dont think wearing "metal clothing" makes u more of a metalhead or am I wrong? Clothing doesn't necessarily have to portray your tastes in music........ my point was that.. at that age... a kid doesn't even have a clue about such music..., I understand that the parents can like the music but that doesn't make them "cool" or impress people just because they buy their kid "metal attire" ... i'm not trying to insult anybody here, if you are this kind of a person, i'm just giving my opinion of what I think about an infant wearing "metal clothing" that is it. =)
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Its just cloths afterall, right ?
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Clothes are just a way of identifying with a specific culture, a way of feeling a sense of belonging to a subset of people that enjoy the same music and have similar outlooks on life. It's exactly the same as bling, tight black trousers, Ben Sherman shirts etc.
Until recently I dressed fairly normally but in recent times I've started reverting back to more alternative fashions as I was getting a little tired of the incongruous relationship between my ordinary looks and my general dislike of mainstream society. It's nice to know that people will "get me" on a superficial level, even if it's not a positive reaction.
There's nothing wrong with dressing metal, as long as it represents who you are. Not like the people who wear Ramones t shirts because it's iconic.
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I agree with ur last line Jooe, but if i had kids, i'd like to raise them same way i did. i'll implants the seeds and let's see how it'll be...
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Written by Roro on 09.07.2010 at 13:50
I agree with ur last line Jooe, but if i had kids, i'd like to raise them same way i did. i'll implants the seeds and let's see how it'll be...
I'm in two minds about that really. While I definitely agree that children should be allowed to find their own path, that you should never force them to be a certain way, I can't help thinking whenever I see a kid dressed metal (usually along with their equally metal parents) that they're probably going to be awesome in the future. It probably isn't the case; they may well indeed be persecuted at school and have an odd upbringing but the alternative (at least in England) is often seeing kids dressed as chav/lower-class thug attire which makes me think they'll grow up as gangsta-rap loving, teenage pregnant prone scum. That's pretty much my own cynical view anyway.
I'll never have kids but if I did I'd probably force feed them metal from their birth ;]
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Yeah i get that. but imagine a marvelous kids having a good taste in music, talented in playing insturments with a unique minds and wearing black t-shirts plus the high ethics.(though i prefer them to be a school gangs lol)
the result will be...
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beautiful, isnt she ?
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Written by Roro on 09.07.2010 at 14:35
Yeah i get that. but imagine a marvelous kids having a good taste in music, talented in playing insturments with a unique minds and wearing black t-shirts plus the high ethics.(though i prefer them to be a school gangs lol)
the result will be...
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beautiful, isnt she ?
Haha, definitely cute anyone should be proud to have her as a daughter.
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The thing that most pisses me off is when "metalheads" start constantly insulting other genres of music. Its like they talk more about that genre than about metal. And dressing like a metalhead to me isn't just putting a band t-shirt on. Its much more than that.
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Written by F0rang3l on 10.08.2010 at 23:50
The thing that most pisses me off is when "metalheads" start constantly insulting other genres of music. Its like they talk more about that genre than about metal. And dressing like a metalhead to me isn't just putting a band t-shirt on. Its much more than that.
Why should we have to impose a dumb subculture inform? I never wear anything more than a band t-shirt occasionally.
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Written by vezzy on 10.08.2010 at 23:56
Written by F0rang3l on 10.08.2010 at 23:50
The thing that most pisses me off is when "metalheads" start constantly insulting other genres of music. Its like they talk more about that genre than about metal. And dressing like a metalhead to me isn't just putting a band t-shirt on. Its much more than that.
Why should we have to impose a dumb subculture inform? I never wear anything more than a band t-shirt occasionally.
Yeah thats what I also do. But there are people that just buy a band shirt of a band they have never heard that play a genre of metal they have never listened to and think they are so "metal". I have friends like that. Its not really about what you wear but what you listen to.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 09.07.2010 at 12:52 There's nothing wrong with dressing metal, as long as it represents who you are. Not like the people who wear Ramones t shirts because it's iconic.
Yep, exactly. I don't wear metal shirts all the time, but most of the time I do. It's just an extension of my personality. Also, overtly feminine clothing doesn't really suit me. lol
Quote: I'll never have kids but if I did I'd probably force feed them metal from their birth ;]
I dunno if "force feed" is the right word... lol But if I did have kids, they'd be growing up around metal, seeing as that is what I predominantly listen to. hehe xD
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Written by F0rang3l on 11.08.2010 at 00:01
Written by vezzy on 10.08.2010 at 23:56
Written by F0rang3l on 10.08.2010 at 23:50
The thing that most pisses me off is when "metalheads" start constantly insulting other genres of music. Its like they talk more about that genre than about metal. And dressing like a metalhead to me isn't just putting a band t-shirt on. Its much more than that.
Why should we have to impose a dumb subculture inform? I never wear anything more than a band t-shirt occasionally.
Yeah thats what I also do. But there are people that just buy a band shirt of a band they have never heard that play a genre of metal they have never listened to and think they are so "metal". I have friends like that. Its not really about what you wear but what you listen to.
Here, the problem is that there are kids who listen to Metallica, Megadeth, Nightwish, AC/DC, Children of Bodom, Iron Maiden, Cradle of Filth and Slayer and are suddenly the metal authority. Yeah, that includes them wearing t-shirts.
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Written by vezzy on 11.08.2010 at 00:07
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Written by vezzy on 10.08.2010 at 23:56
Written by F0rang3l on 10.08.2010 at 23:50
The thing that most pisses me off is when "metalheads" start constantly insulting other genres of music. Its like they talk more about that genre than about metal. And dressing like a metalhead to me isn't just putting a band t-shirt on. Its much more than that.
Why should we have to impose a dumb subculture inform? I never wear anything more than a band t-shirt occasionally.
Yeah thats what I also do. But there are people that just buy a band shirt of a band they have never heard that play a genre of metal they have never listened to and think they are so "metal". I have friends like that. Its not really about what you wear but what you listen to.
Here, the problem is that there are kids who listen to Metallica, Megadeth, Nightwish, AC/DC, Children of Bodom, Iron Maiden, Cradle of Filth and Slayer and are suddenly the metal authority. Yeah, that includes them wearing t-shirts.
Maybe, but you don't need to listen to some black metal underground sensation from Congo that only 2 people know of to be called a metalhead.
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Written by F0rang3l on 11.08.2010 at 00:11
Written by vezzy on 11.08.2010 at 00:07
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Written by vezzy on 10.08.2010 at 23:56
Written by F0rang3l on 10.08.2010 at 23:50
The thing that most pisses me off is when "metalheads" start constantly insulting other genres of music. Its like they talk more about that genre than about metal. And dressing like a metalhead to me isn't just putting a band t-shirt on. Its much more than that.
Why should we have to impose a dumb subculture inform? I never wear anything more than a band t-shirt occasionally.
Yeah thats what I also do. But there are people that just buy a band shirt of a band they have never heard that play a genre of metal they have never listened to and think they are so "metal". I have friends like that. Its not really about what you wear but what you listen to.
Here, the problem is that there are kids who listen to Metallica, Megadeth, Nightwish, AC/DC, Children of Bodom, Iron Maiden, Cradle of Filth and Slayer and are suddenly the metal authority. Yeah, that includes them wearing t-shirts.
Maybe, but you don't need to listen to some black metal underground sensation from Congo that only 2 people know of to be called a metalhead.
That's true, but come on, those bands are pretty much the very surface.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 11.08.2010 at 00:01
Quote: I'll never have kids but if I did I'd probably force feed them metal from their birth ;]
I dunno if "force feed" is the right word... lol But if I did have kids, they'd be growing up around metal, seeing as that is what I predominantly listen to. hehe xD
He is communist... and yeah could be such a annoying metalfather
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Written by TOUGHEST MEMBER on 11.08.2010 at 13:02
Written by Angelic Storm on 11.08.2010 at 00:01
Quote: I'll never have kids but if I did I'd probably force feed them metal from their birth ;]
I dunno if "force feed" is the right word... lol But if I did have kids, they'd be growing up around metal, seeing as that is what I predominantly listen to. hehe xD
He is communist... and yeah could be such a annoying metalfather
Hey, communism is great in theory.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 11.08.2010 at 13:03
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Written by Angelic Storm on 11.08.2010 at 00:01
Quote: I'll never have kids but if I did I'd probably force feed them metal from their birth ;]
I dunno if "force feed" is the right word... lol But if I did have kids, they'd be growing up around metal, seeing as that is what I predominantly listen to. hehe xD
He is communist... and yeah could be such a annoying metalfather
Hey, communism is great in theory.
1991 is great year, IMO both for metal and the world practice in the aspect of new metal music wave and blah
I was a very annoying metal dudes, did hate/bashed all other metalheads in my local who listens to Gun'N'Rose, Manowar, all metalcore, Alternative (until now I cant understand why my local metal head bashing alternative), Pop, Hiphop - Rap (damn this was very extreme)... And now I become metaldude who annoys who that I was like
I think it is the taste differences annoys different metaldudes by themself each other and the conviction that from the taste genre culture.
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Written by TOUGHEST MEMBER on 11.08.2010 at 13:17
1991 is great year, IMO both for metal and the world practice in the aspect of new metal music wave and blah
I was a very annoying metal dudes, did hate/bashed all other metalheads in my local who listens to Gun'N'Rose, Manowar, all metalcore, Alternative (until now I cant understand why my local metal head bashing alternative), Pop, Hiphop - Rap (damn this was very extreme)... And now I become metaldude who annoys who that I was like
I think it is the taste differences annoys different metaldudes by themself each other and the conviction that from the taste genre culture.
...What did he just say?
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Written by vezzy on 11.08.2010 at 14:09
Written by TOUGHEST MEMBER on 11.08.2010 at 13:17
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1991 is great year, IMO both for metal and the world practice in the aspect of new metal music wave and blah
I was a very annoying metal dude, did hated/bashed all other metalheads in my local who listen to Gun'N'Rose, Manowar, all metalcore, Alternative (until now I cant understand why my local metal attitude is bashing alternative rock/metal), Pop, Hiphop - Rap (damn this was very extreme there has been a rap-metal war in my country music fans scene)... And now I become metaldude who annoys who that are like I was
I think it is the taste differences that annoys different metalhead because of the conviction that from the culture of the genre taste, e.g tr00 stuff made from black metal culture.
...What did he just say?
You mean "he" is me or who ? do I annoy u ? (corrected/rephrased grammar mistake from my original post)
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Written by [user id=4365] on 09.07.2010 at 12:52
There's nothing wrong with dressing metal, as long as it represents who you are. Not like the people who wear Ramones t shirts because it's iconic.
I seriously want to bash someones head when I see him/her wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt. It's wrong on so many levels.
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I seriously hate metaldudes who bring their girlfriends to concerts, as a date! When my friend brings his gf he just dumps her and hangs with me. But sometimes there's dudes who pushes away people from their gf, stands far in the front kissing or take stupid pictures of each other.
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I hate metaldudes who drink (or smoke) to much on the concert and they start to try pogo but their moves are just fucking not from this earth, and they start to accidentally punch everybody with their elbows. I'm not against beer, but holy fuck- this is the music concert, not Oktoberfest....
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One thing I really hate are those metalheads that go to concerts and just act like total retards and annoy everyone (pushing people around, getting really drunk, spitting beer everywhere, etc...). Usually they calm down or get thrown away by security but it sometimes ruins everything, specially during fests with the campsite.
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Written by Kennoth on 11.08.2010 at 15:09
Written by [user id=4365] on 09.07.2010 at 12:52
There's nothing wrong with dressing metal, as long as it represents who you are. Not like the people who wear Ramones t shirts because it's iconic.
I seriously want to bash someones head when I see him/her wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt. It's wrong on so many levels.
I don't see why it should be, unless that person has little idea as to who he is.
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Written by Kennoth on 11.08.2010 at 15:09
I seriously want to bash someones head when I see him/her wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt. It's wrong on so many levels.
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Written by Zuzuz0r on 11.08.2010 at 18:39
Written by Kennoth on 11.08.2010 at 15:09
I seriously want to bash someones head when I see him/her wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt. It's wrong on so many levels.
This is what I meant
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Written by Warman on 11.08.2010 at 15:31
But sometimes there's dudes who pushes away people from their gf, stands far in the front kissing or take stupid pictures of each other.
Ugh, I know. Once I saw a guy with his gf kissing the entire goddamn show, they paid no attention to the band, whatsoever. Worst part is, I had to listen to their "oh, I love you so much" speeches whenever there was a break between songs. Almost made me walk out of the place.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 07.07.2010 at 15:20
I'm a little sick and tired of reviewers arbitrarily giving metalcore records 1/10. I don't really listen to metalcore but even some of the worst probably deserve more than that for musicianship, ability to string a chord together etc. even if it is ripped off.
Most of the time it just shows how limited metallers are and how bound by their own ego and need to prove a point to their peers about how metal they are. It's particularly irritating as all metalcore reviews invariably begin with a short diatribe on how the scene is full of copy-cats, is in a constant state of degradation etc. not to mention you could bet your house on the fact that the image of the band and its prospective fans will be brought into question, ironic considering it's just as passe to mostly ignore the fact that a vast number of metal bands are just as guilty of plagiarism as its metalcore counterparts; not something many are willing to admit.
Damn straight. There's just as much plagiarism going on in ALL genres of metal (Black, Doom, Power, Heavy, Death, you name it). And similarly, image is just as important -if not more important- in all these genres too.
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Written by F0rang3l on 10.08.2010 at 23:50
The thing that most pisses me off is when "metalheads" start constantly insulting other genres of music. Its like they talk more about that genre than about metal. And dressing like a metalhead to me isn't just putting a band t-shirt on. Its much more than that.
The most metal attire is a WHITE band shirt, plad shorts, and a metal grim. necro. permafrost encrusted cap.
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