I agree with aronax in a way, pinning everything on parents is a really easy way out, I mean parents are responsible to a degree, and I dont think pornography is that damaging for a young mind, I mean ive been watching porn since I was like 10 or 11 and im pretty sure im a reasonably sane and balanced person.

Pornography doesn't bother me. It's about women on a movie I'm not forced to watch/buy if I don't want to.
Prostitution instead gives me the creeps. I don't really like going out at night and see all those women and men and transexuals calling and shouting obscene things. In Italy you can find them even under the houses in neighbourhoods of any kind. It's ok with me if they stay confined to any house and don't show in public while working but it's not ok if prostitution is led everywhere and you have to deal with such scenery even at daytime

I can understand it's a job and they make a living out of it, but it's a filthy job, they carry deseases and the most important thing, they harm themselves doing such it's not like being a porn star where they earn tons and are hailed and don't force anyone to watch their work.

Written by [user id=23762] on 29.05.2007 at 00:41

Pornography doesn't bother me. It's about women on a movie I'm not forced to watch/buy if I don't want to.
Prostitution instead gives me the creeps. I don't really like going out at night and see all those women and men and transexuals calling and shouting obscene things. In Italy you can find them even under the houses in neighbourhoods of any kind. It's ok with me if they stay confined to any house and don't show in public while working but it's not ok if prostitution is led everywhere and you have to deal with such scenery even at daytime

I can understand it's a job and they make a living out of it, but it's a filthy job, they carry deseases and the most important thing, they harm themselves doing such it's not like being a porn star where they earn tons and are hailed and don't force anyone to watch their work.

Italian pornography are best realyist best but Ricco movies are boring and to long
Realy early 90ties mid 90ties porno are best specely from France and Italy, other countries i realy wanna puke when watch them damn that time wa sbest for porn and ultras

Trasnexuals its not normal and discsusting, i realy had seens such thinsk in live and damn sometimes i wanna dont go out

Being porn start it was ok in 90tis but now its same and even more worts how prostitution, using axex, an some other extra huge toys its not normal too

Well, I don't really care about the toys they use and how they get extreme on their bodies. The choice is up to them. If people do buy such thing it means the industry is still flowerish. Anyway, prostitution not confined is the worst form of degradation. And also legalizing it is even worse, people will carry viruses and bacteria everywhere around without any care. Making it legal does not prevent from anything.

Written by [user id=23762] on 30.05.2007 at 12:26

Well, I don't really care about the toys they use and how they get extreme on their bodies. The choice is up to them. If people do buy such thing it means the industry is still flowerish. Anyway, prostitution not confined is the worst form of degradation. And also legalizing it is even worse, people will carry viruses and bacteria everywhere around without any care. Making it legal does not prevent from anything.

Toys well ceasres dunno hwo spell corect, alarm clocks, boots, some toys who work like bicicle ist not normal
When I was in age 15 ewery day there wa sgodo porn in tv, now i shood wate week to nsee good one or longer

about prostitition, it shood be ekagel, but in specail places like bards, caffes,.... and those girls shood be checked ewery day, because if ist be not leagal, mafia will get money and some but for other side stonger mafia, gourement wont hunt ultras and flairs, riots be again in calcio

about viruses and deasese I agree and its degredation, but our word are rotten in all forms how can be rotten, so we cant change nothing, but if ppl be smart he wont get those deasise, thats why sex its good whit ppl what you know

Written by [user id=23762] on 30.05.2007 at 12:26

And also legalizing it is even worse, people will carry viruses and bacteria everywhere around without any care. Making it legal does not prevent from anything.

I wouldn't agree with you on that one. and this is why:

Ilegal prostitution is the one of the biggest problem we are facing in Eastern and Southern Europe. There are few very important factors why is that:

1. - Trafficing - Systems of exploitation and their profiteers who were making use of difficult economic situation of so called Third World countries. The great exploatation of women from poor countries, sentenced to miserable life condition, forced to do prostitution against their will. Countries where prostitution is ilegal, like my country for example, are fertile ground for import of those poor girls, taken from their homes to work in unhuman conditions. If prostitution is legal, no one normal would go to some chip motel, where you are not sure are the girls healty (why people even want to go to visit such places, that is different problem, but the fact is, that there are much people that do such things, and I must admit I was visiting such places), people would prefer legal bordels, where girls would go to work because they have too (again, one new problem, in most cases weemen with low education, or poor womans..), where those girls would have all conditions to work, like normal pay, customers limits etc with illegal prostitution mafia bosses smuggle girls just to make fast profit. Who are those girls, Before, the women came mostly from Latin-America (Brazil, Santo Domingo, Columbia) from Asia, (mostly the Philippines, Thailand) and some Northern African countries like Marocco as well as Black Africa, (Cameroon etc.). Now 50% of the women come from Middle and Eastern Europe.

More about this problem here:

http://www.moneynations.ch/topics/border/text/traffic.htm
http://www.unicef.org/ceecis/Trafficking.Report.2005.pdf

This one is extremely interesting:

http://belgrade.usembassy.gov/policy/reports/060605.html

2. - Diseases - Again, like I wrote before, poor girls are forced to work this job because they need money to feed themselfs, to pay appartment... While prostitution is ilegal they work on streets, without any health care.. They are forced to work for small money, with many kinds of people, some of them are the last scum on erath. In most cases they don't use any perservatives or anything that would pervent various deseases to spread, since those girls have more than 10 suspect partners during only one work night there is big risk that they will got inffected. Tomorrow again, some guy will came without desease and she will infect him, he will go tomorrow to some other girl... and big circle is created.

While if we legalise prostitution, it would be much more healthy, in special bordels where girls would be checked, and also people who came to pay them for sex. The risk of spreading the desease would be greatly minimized. Of cause some girls will still work on streets and scum will go to them, but we can pervent that. But one question to guys (please don't write I would never go there because it is not the point!!) would you rather go to some legal night club, where you are sure you are having sex with healthy girl that work there because she want to and pay a little bit more, or you would go and fuck some chip, probably diseased girl in some street of bad town quart??

3. - violence - Girls forced to work on streets (because they are hiding from police) oftenly are beaten, violate from their customers, their pimps or even police when they catch them. All that would be far less if they worked in bordels that are legal and controled from police and people who are in charged there.

Well, this is my opinion why prostitution should be legalize

Written by [user id=23762] on 30.05.2007 at 12:26

. And also legalizing it is even worse, people will carry viruses and bacteria everywhere around without any care. Making it legal does not prevent from anything.

@Arorax - I answer this post tomorow, but about elagalising it if girl/women has attitude and somne how tos ay she are SHE and love her self she wont do it, and well... life is to short for try prostitutes because there are to many great wines to try
I woud never us ethem dunno maybe it sound swierd from man, but i dont us eprostitutes and never will
Iron maiden was song 'Fear of the dark'' and there was ... Im man who walks alone

Written by APOHAKC on 31.05.2007 at 18:38

Written by [user id=23762] on 30.05.2007 at 12:26

And also legalizing it is even worse, people will carry viruses and bacteria everywhere around without any care. Making it legal does not prevent from anything.

I wouldn't agree with you on that one. and this is why:

Ilegal prostitution is the one of the biggest problem we are facing in Eastern and Southern Europe. There are few very important factors why is that:

1. - Trafficing - Systems of exploitation and their profiteers who were making use of difficult economic situation of so called Third World countries. The great exploatation of women from poor countries, sentenced to miserable life condition, forced to do prostitution against their will. Countries where prostitution is ilegal, like my country for example, are fertile ground for import of those poor girls, taken from their homes to work in unhuman conditions. If prostitution is legal, no one normal would go to some chip motel, where you are not sure are the girls healty (why people even want to go to visit such places, that is different problem, but the fact is, that there are much people that do such things, and I must admit I was visiting such places), people would prefer legal bordels, where girls would go to work because they have too (again, one new problem, in most cases weemen with low education, or poor womans..), where those girls would have all conditions to work, like normal pay, customers limits etc with illegal prostitution mafia bosses smuggle girls just to make fast profit. Who are those girls, Before, the women came mostly from Latin-America (Brazil, Santo Domingo, Columbia) from Asia, (mostly the Philippines, Thailand) and some Northern African countries like Marocco as well as Black Africa, (Cameroon etc.). Now 50% of the women come from Middle and Eastern Europe.

More about this problem here:

http://www.moneynations.ch/topics/border/text/traffic.htm
http://www.unicef.org/ceecis/Trafficking.Report.2005.pdf

This one is extremely interesting:

http://belgrade.usembassy.gov/policy/reports/060605.html

2. - Diseases - Again, like I wrote before, poor girls are forced to work this job because they need money to feed themselfs, to pay appartment... While prostitution is ilegal they work on streets, without any health care.. They are forced to work for small money, with many kinds of people, some of them are the last scum on erath. In most cases they don't use any perservatives or anything that would pervent various deseases to spread, since those girls have more than 10 suspect partners during only one work night there is big risk that they will got inffected. Tomorrow again, some guy will came without desease and she will infect him, he will go tomorrow to some other girl... and big circle is created.

While if we legalise prostitution, it would be much more healthy, in special bordels where girls would be checked, and also people who came to pay them for sex. The risk of spreading the desease would be greatly minimized. Of cause some girls will still work on streets and scum will go to them, but we can pervent that. But one question to guys (please don't write I would never go there because it is not the point!!) would you rather go to some legal night club, where you are sure you are having sex with healthy girl that work there because she want to and pay a little bit more, or you would go and fuck some chip, probably diseased girl in some street of bad town quart??

3. - violence - Girls forced to work on streets (because they are hiding from police) oftenly are beaten, violate from their customers, their pimps or even police when they catch them. All that would be far less if they worked in bordels that are legal and controled from police and people who are in charged there.

Well, this is my opinion why prostitution should be legalize

I wanna laugh at what you say but I won't.

Just to inform you, there are many women in Italy prostituting themselves to anyone at home and don't work in the streets. For the government these women perform an activity indoors which allows them to pay the contribution fees in order to get a pension at "retirement" age.
And these women are forced and used by no one. And this is western world.
Concerning the matter of young women and human traffic, the problem is something related to progress. Progress means: if you cannot handle yourself and your own resources you will become scum.

Let's take the example of Romania. Ceausescu made Romania have something as 2 million orphans and took away the sense of responsability from people. This is why today, women from Romania are often labelled as prostitutes and so on. There are too many children left on the mercy of fate, it's more than obvious they will have a REALLY HARD life. This is sad and regretful.

Other women from eastern europe such as from Czech Republic, Hungaria etc etc are well-known in pornography and the commoner thinks ALL the women from these countries are the same. And here we have prejudice.

Then we have Africa. Nigeria exports the greatest number of prostitutes in the world and most of them do not have a master to rule them, they work for their own sake. Since they have very little education and the world rejects them, they use the only thing they know and can do to survive.

And we could go on for ages reporting facts.


It's people who should stop this, no governement can. If you legalize this, protectors will still exploit on defenseless women and don't think they will take care of the poor girls and boys and children.

People just turn their faces away when things happen. If they unite and don't agree to abuses, no government is needed to stop exploitation.

But this is just my opinion.

Written by [user id=23762] on 01.06.2007 at 21:22

Other women from eastern europe such as from Czech Republic, Hungaria etc etc are well-known in pornography and the commoner thinks ALL the women from these countries are the same. And here we have prejudice.

I don't have time to answer to your post now, I will do that tomorrow, just to inform you that you totaly missed my point and Czech Republic and Hungary are not in the eastern Europe, you should infrom your self more before writting all that, and second I never mention pornography in my post, things you wrote only showed how carefuly you actually read my post and links I left, tomorrow I will write another post to show you how wrong you are

Hungaria and Czech Republic are considered eastern Europe where I live. Don't use only your point of view.
Plus, I was reporting about how people are considered and the fact I mentioned the two above states is because from prejudice regarding pornography the women from those countries are considered prostitutes.

Got that? Read carefully yourself. Problems have to be seen 360 degrees not only in your own situation. That means focusing on the problem, but not on the solution.

@Aronax - about deasiese what you think about WC in Germany it was leagel prostitution there same in Atenas (I care more about ultras how prostitution in such events)
this is big probleme because I dont care about my life, i like like i life whit booze, but sorry man I dont wanna die from some deasese what i had from Monica, Sweety or Mis Wild or what was here name thats why if is shood be leagal

Violance - violant sex i dont like it :puke: but i agree I had seen 12 years odl girl in my life whit my eys who was whit no teath whit beaten eyes and who are ready suck you about one euro,
But also other side of it soemtiems cliante has been beeten by some friends of fake prostitue and thays toll all money and let beaten/killed man lieing in whate ever what you think about it?
In leagal places such can not hepen

About cops thay are A.C.A.B thay beet all

@Hight - such cases are here even if its forbidden but there was some 2 prostitutes in my town who work in them own houses, but IMO its werry huge risck let stranger go to your house

Ok yes if ppl cant handle by him self, then why parents want him? but ist outof topic

Cz and Hun hahah all italian porn starts come from there i whole life thought Laura are from it but she are cz

Written by [user id=23762] on 01.06.2007 at 21:35

Hungaria and Czech Republic are considered eastern Europe where I live. Don't use only your point of view.

Easter Europe are Belarussia, Ukraina, Latvia, Lithainia, Estonia(even ist more Scandinavia)
Cz,Svk, Hungary, Poland, Bylgaria, Romania are CENTRAl Europe

I know the geographic definition quite well.

But let me know better what in Italy is considered as eastern Europe by masses. It's ALL the countries you mentioned including Croatia and Bosnia and Serbia.
I already stated before, PREJUDICE is what people deal with better and classify everybody as one.
Hope to have explained that better.

Written by [user id=23762] on 02.06.2007 at 01:02

I know the geographic definition quite well.

But let me know better what in Italy is considered as eastern Europe by masses. It's ALL the countries you mentioned including Croatia and Bosnia and Serbia.
I already stated before, PREJUDICE is what people deal with better and classify everybody as one.
Hope to have explained that better.

Haha i know about it and well I woud say Milano isnt in italy but i realy think so
about Balkans its more closer to Italy in some points how slavic world

Damn Italy show best porn in world same Albainian tv (it was because we need stay in topic)

Written by [user id=18410] on 08.03.2007 at 14:21

I think when porn is completely legal, rape will go down...Prostitution, I still don't care about...

My only issue would be child porn, that pisses me off, because while normal guys may tend to get off on porn and not go out to get rape...Pedos can look at child porn, and wanna rape a child...I say execute pedophiles

What the fuck?

Written by Hyvaarin on 02.06.2007 at 13:01

Written by [user id=18410] on 08.03.2007 at 14:21

I think when porn is completely legal, rape will go down...Prostitution, I still don't care about...

My only issue would be child porn, that pisses me off, because while normal guys may tend to get off on porn and not go out to get rape...Pedos can look at child porn, and wanna rape a child...I say execute pedophiles

What the fuck?

Thats what I said, first of all, there are some girls that are like 16 but look 20, and those apparently are the biggest pedophile/underage problems in the porn industry (my friends dad was some sort of manager for a porn company in the 80's ). Secondly, just because some guys get off on child porn doesnt mean they automatically wanna rape a child. When someone watches normal porn, does that make them automatically want to go out and rape some girl? no! Child porn is just a fetish IMO like bondage and all that shit ( dont get me wrong im not saying its right or anything)

@Dr.Rock: i agree. pedophiles cant help it that they get turned on by children. it's like black people cant choose to be white or gay people cant choose to be straight. but when it goes as far as a pedophile raping a child, then we can talk about disgusting freaks..

I agree with Aronax about the legalization thing. In the netherlands I heard that its legal and they test them for stds and if it is monitered by law then there would be less sufferring and exploitation. In jerusalem its founded that there is about 120 teenage prostitutes in the city, and there is huge sex trade in the other cities too, if that can be made legal, then there wouldnt be as much problems. There would be crackdowns on the local cirme families and when Israeli law is cracking down, they do it hard and they do it well too.

One thing that annoys me about young girls in particular nowadays is that they could be 10 years old yet dress wearing short skirts or whatever to make them look as though they're older and that just invites the wrong attention usually.

Written by [user id=24216] on 10.06.2007 at 00:04

One thing that annoys me about young girls in particular nowadays is that they could be 10 years old yet dress wearing short skirts or whatever to make them look as though they're older and that just invites the wrong attention usually.

I think the same IMO girls are girl and such dress isnt for young girls but iMO it more depends of parents so if parents alowed them dress like that its them faulth that daugher can be porn start or something like this in future

Written by Sunioj on 09.06.2007 at 12:46

I agree with Aronax about the legalization thing. In the netherlands I heard that its legal and they test them for stds and if it is monitered by law then there would be less sufferring and exploitation. In jerusalem its founded that there is about 120 teenage prostitutes in the city, and there is huge sex trade in the other cities too, if that can be made legal, then there wouldnt be as much problems. There would be crackdowns on the local cirme families and when Israeli law is cracking down, they do it hard and they do it well too.

Legalisation would surely solve one part of problems, the only one who doesn't want legalisation are dirty and probably deaseased whores that gathers under the bridges and mafia bosses. With legalisation at least country will have something from them, they will have to pay taxes like everyone else

Hmm, well, what can i say....
Pornography shouldn't be illegal - come on, we watch it all.
Prostitution.... i don't know what to say, i have never used a prostitute, but still, it is a woman's decision to be one.

prostitution... hmmm... i always thought "well who is the government to tell these women or men what they can do with their bodies..." but seriously now that i think about it... there is disease, there are women being assaulted and killed and whatever else. the more i think about it, the worse it gets... if i am to ever have children, i would not want to walk down the street only to see many 'ladies of the evening' around. and i wouldnt want it to be a possible career path for my daughter, or my friends or even my mother. heh. maybe now i can see why its illegal.

as for porno... eh its just pictures and little movies eh? whatever floats your boat.

@Cassandra: oh, so you would be ok with your daughter starring in porno movies?
to me, its the same, i wouldnt want my daughter to to either of it. but if its their own choice, who am i to stop them?
and what's the problem with walking down the street and see many prostitutes? really, it shouldnt be worse than seeing many workers with mcdonalds hats or something, cos prostitution shouldnt be such a low-status profession. it should be a profession as any else

Okay..so I've done a lot of thinking about these two subjects. As a woman I feel like I should support women to have the right to a choice but at the same time I also feel like some of these choices degrade not just our sex but the entire human race. When looking at these two concepts I think I approve of prostitution much more than I do of pornography. Pornography is something I watch at times but it always makes me feel ugly. I think my view of it reflects how it makes me feel about myself. I always get low self esteem when watching it. Prostitution is an industry (lack of a better word) that is more distant to me so maybe that's why I approve of it more. Nontheless I think that we all have the right to make choices and have a freedom of speech..neither of these concepts can be real which is the sad part. It always just seems to be fantasy.

@Ellie: feeling ugly looking at porn should be the same as feeling ugly looking at models wearing not more than a bra. but modelling is legal.

i wonder why sex is such taboo. why is it wrong to have sex as a product for sale? some of you might say its because its the most intimate two people can do. but what about pure love? thats quite intimate, and love is exploited all the time. like valentine's day, or little cartoon teddy bears on kids shows on tv telling the viewers they love them. why isnt self-biographies by different authors or celebrities taboo? those biographies might be quite intimate when for example telling about their rough childhood with their dad in jail and their mother on drugs. thats intimate stuff to me, like sex, but unlike sex, its not taboo.

Written by [user id=24489] on 12.07.2007 at 21:05

Pornography is something I watch at times but it always makes me feel ugly. I think my view of it reflects how it makes me feel about myself. I always get low self esteem when watching it. Prostitution is an industry (lack of a better word) that is more distant to me so maybe that's why I approve of it more. Nontheless I think that we all have the right to make choices and have a freedom of speech..neither of these concepts can be real which is the sad part. It always just seems to be fantasy.

When I was in your age I love it buut now ewery porn movie seems ugly for me, I enjout only midle 90ties Italian and Freench never cant stand US porn even from that time but somehow ewery body what i know think Im just stupid, because nowdays porn rulles heheh its ugly ;puke:

I see nothing wrong with porn and prostitution, except when kids and underage teens are envolved, or when women are forced to do this stuff.

Prostitution is wrong, you can get awful diseases, just for a moment of pleasure.
Porn is wrong... oh man, i'm a bad liar but, all we know that is wrong, but if any man (18+) haven't watched porno yet, quote this post. If you don't think that porn is bad, why do you hide your files, magazines and so from your parents??????

Written by selken on 05.08.2007 at 04:59

Prostitution is wrong, you can get awful diseases, just for a moment of pleasure.

If you're stupid enough to have sex with a prostitute WITHOUT protection, you deserve an STD.