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Posted by Unknown user, 11.11.2006 - 14:17
what do you all think about these two taboo subjects? in sweden, prostitution is illegal. i think this is wrong. i want a more liberal society. supply and demand should be put to use. people who are against prostitution always gives the argument "the girls are being used by the men". well, thats the same thing as the guy working at mc donalds is being used, coz its a shitty job with low wage. but what if the girl chooses to be a prostitute. then why is it wrong?
the same with pornography. people say "men learn to see women as objects". well, i admit that i've watched porn, but that doesnt make me look at women as objects. its still supply and demand. people are willing to expose themselves on the camera, and people are willing to pay to see the movies.

as long as no one gets hurt, it should be legal

am i right? what do you think?
03.02.2008 - 18:34
Achor
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@Pole Kitten: So why is it worse if the customers would actually touch you (other than your personal feelings about being touched by strange men). My point is that sex is not forbidden or ugly or taboo.

@Nebel_Hexe: Why is being a prostitute bad? Why is it not a "proper" job? Why do you assume that every prostitute is on drugs? I know alot of them are, but not everyone. It's wrong to judge every prostitute just because some of them are drug addicts and whatnot. How about a mentally stable girl from a nice neighbourhood and with good grades. Can't she be a prostitute?
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04.02.2008 - 12:05
Pole Kitten
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Written by [user id=15104] on 03.02.2008 at 18:34

@Pole Kitten: So why is it worse if the customers would actually touch you (other than your personal feelings about being touched by strange men). My point is that sex is not forbidden or ugly or taboo.

@Nebel_Hexe: Why is being a prostitute bad? Why is it not a "proper" job? Why do you assume that every prostitute is on drugs? I know alot of them are, but not everyone. It's wrong to judge every prostitute just because some of them are drug addicts and whatnot. How about a mentally stable girl from a nice neighbourhood and with good grades. Can't she be a prostitute?

for me that is just the line i draw. letting someone touch you is a very intimate thing. friends i'll hug and mess about with but when i'm fully clothed! haha i'd have to really like someone to let them touch me any other time, it's not something i'd want just any person doing and it's really REALLY intimate if you're wearing very little clothing. besides, you don't know what they've touched with their hands before they arrive! *shiver*

i never said sex was forbidden and in most cultures it's not really taboo any more. i just wouldn't want someone i don't know to get that intimate with me. but that's personaly preference, i must admit i have done in the past pretty much to see what it was like but i didn't rate it and i wouldn't do it again. personal preference though, some people really get off on it i think.

i was speaking online to a girl for several months following and talking her through the transition where she went from nothing, to lap dancing, to prostitute and then taking a step back from it again. it was fascinating and also really sad and upsetting at the same time which i was surprised about. i could talk mroe about that but it's a long story. not all girls are forced to work as prostitutes but many are. some do it out of choice but i do think that there is generally something that has happened in their lives to make them think it is acceptable to do and it's usually something traumatic from what i've seen. obviously some take that step into prostitution because they are curious or something which i suppose is perfectly acceptable under my motto of never regretting NOT doing or trying something.

if someone does decide to sell their body for sex then i still believe there is some underlying reason for doing so and not a good one. i think any "mentally stable girl from a nice neighbourhood and with good grades" would probably not reduce herself to standing no street corners unless something was wrong or she felt there was absolutely no other way out. working as an escort may be slightly different though and i know a few who do that, earning good money for what they sell (in their opinion) and with security of their safety, declaring taxes and living a perfectly happy life.

again, it's not something i could do. i'm not saying it never cross my mind to become and escort or something, i try to think things through and someone at a club once suggested it, but it's just a couple of steps too far for me and like i said above, that intimacy isn't something i'd feel comfortable sharing around to all and sundry!
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05.02.2008 - 05:14
Hyvaarin
Written by [user id=27451] on 30.01.2008 at 10:09

some people class lap dancing as prostitution because in their eyes your selling your body and being paid for it. my argument (and i obviously had to have one) is that it wasn't prostitution because the aren't physically selling their bodies, the are selling kind of moving pictures of it. a bit like pornography but the guys who are watching it can't do anything so in my eyes it's a step better than doing actual porn films. they can't physically touch you and you don't normally do anything sexual, it's just a naked woman showing how beautiful the female form can be.

I think there's a reasonable enough link between (hardcore) porn and prostitution - in both cases, the person is paid to let someone have sex with them. The difference is that with porn, others are able to watch if they pay.

With lapdancing, I totally don't follow your argument. Isn't there a fair bit of physical contact involved? Doesn't that make it quite a bit more than "moving pictures"? And the guys CAN do something (rubbing their legs, etc.), whereas with porn the audience will have no contact with the woman involved.
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05.02.2008 - 10:36
Pole Kitten
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sorry, i'm talking about in the UK. regulations are a lot stricter over here. there is a strict "no contact" rule and the guys are made to sit on their hands. if they trya nd touch you you warn them once, warn them twice (or punch them which is my prefered option!) and then press the panic button and the bouncers throw them out. you're less likely to get groped in a strip club than you are in a nightclub in my experience! tell a bouncer in a nightclub some guy groped your ass and tbh they're more likely to do it to you to take the piss or burst out laughing than do anything about it.

the same goes with any contact by the dancer. most places have security cameras inside the dance booths. some clubs have a 3 foot rule where you HAVE to stay 3 foot away from the guy, others you can use them and/or the sofa for balance (wearing 8 inch heels is tricky!) but yes, like anywhere there are clubs that flout the laws and council rules and allow full body contact where the girls sit on the guys lap and pretty much grind the whole dance. i don't work those places though and they're not within the law so i don't class them as lap dancing clubs, they're taking a step closer to brothels. *shrugs*

Going back to the girl i was talking about, some clubs do take it even a step further, she worked in one where there was a room upstairs with a bowl of condoms in and the guys got blowjobs if they paid extra. that wasn't in the UK though, i'm sure they'd get shut down pretty quickly over here.
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15.02.2008 - 00:03
Anon
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I agree. People should be allowed to do whatever they want with their own bodies.
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02.03.2008 - 06:38
Dangerboner
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Porn has really inspired me to be a better person like Rosie O'Lesbian, except I'm not a lesbian Jew. Maybe I should open up my own porn kiosk and sell this shit, but only the really weird fucked up and brutal shit like interracial bestiality, tree sex, Cheerios, Winnebago fisting, and midget gypsy immigrant porn, but not the shit that was in The Hunchback of Notre Dam because that's way too fucked up for me.

I can type perfectly while drunk IMO. ftw.
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02.03.2008 - 06:57
Nox Lux
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mate, I'm blatantly up for some Winnebago fisting. Get some candles going...some Barry White....could be quite spiritual.

btw tree sex is called Dendrophilia. Get your FFF's right when I'm around!

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02.03.2008 - 08:24
Dangerboner
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I don't know if I could do that because Barry White gives me erectile dysfunction and while I'm dendrophilia-ing trees, I'd need my best wood (<---haha get it?) IMO. BEWARE LITTLE FOREST ANIMALS WITH YOUR CINNAMON TOAST CRUNCH AND EAZY E WANNABE POSER SQUIRRELS OH WAIT MY BAD EAZY E DIED FROM AIDS TBH.
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09.03.2008 - 09:40
Evil Chip
Prostitutes are forced to be prostitutes?. As far as I know there are really rich prostitutes out there and they still work in that. There are different patterns to live a life and every person chooses what suits them better. They aren't killing anyone.

PS: Someone share the link of the zombie porn please.
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10.03.2008 - 11:09
Desertman
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ppl do you think its wrong if women pays money to men to have sex with?
i would like to get paid for sometime!
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10.03.2008 - 20:13
Harmonic
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Written by [user id=6782] on 10.03.2008 at 11:09

ppl do you think its wrong if women pays money to men to have sex with?
i would like to get paid for sometime!

Right...

Desertman, it doesn't work that way. You'll understand what I mean when you develop a real understanding of women - not this fantasy you have in your head.

As a matter of fact, the only women who would likely pay a man for sex are older than your mother. But if you're into that kind of thing...

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10.03.2008 - 20:24
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Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=6782] on 10.03.2008 at 11:09

ppl do you think its wrong if women pays money to men to have sex with?
i would like to get paid for sometime!

man woman can live whit out it we cant, thats sterityp and tahy never will pay to us for sex neve rbecause thay can get us for free thay shood only give us sighn
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10.03.2008 - 21:41
Desertman
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@ harmonic: take it easy dude with understanding issue lol
beside i'm not interested in your mother i'm sure she looks like you!
and whats wrong with older women? r they not human to you?
so u understand women by her age?.. how shallow!

and Kariasakis you right,but not always, market should be free...for women and men lol
anyway i have to get paid!
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10.03.2008 - 22:02
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Tage Westerlund
Written by [user id=6782] on 10.03.2008 at 21:41



and Kariasakis you right,but not always, market should be free...for women and men lol
anyway i have to get paid!

It is but non of woman how much she want sex wont pay, ok maybe soem will but its be 1% of all ok if around be soem ugly faces and you eb only cute guy she maybe can pay but in end you will sleep whit her for free
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10.03.2008 - 22:20
Desertman
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It is but non of woman how much she want sex wont pay, ok maybe soem will but its be 1% of all ok if around be soem ugly faces and you eb only cute guy she maybe can pay but in end you will sleep whit her for free

yeah but its not about ugly or not its just business
some females r busy or dont have time for relationships or dont want to
or whatever reason,they just want a man for sex and nothing more!
actually it will helps lot of ppl
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10.03.2008 - 23:26
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Tage Westerlund
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Written by [user id=6782] on 10.03.2008 at 22:20

It is but non of woman how much she want sex wont pay, ok maybe soem will but its be 1% of all ok if around be soem ugly faces and you eb only cute guy she maybe can pay but in end you will sleep whit her for free

But in that case are one night stand, in bar, in office in naibourhood, but usualy woman dont pay because ewery man whan see skirt whit sexy leg his penis will be up and he want sex, so we man cant countroil emeotions


yeah but its not about ugly or not its just business
some females r busy or dont have time for relationships or dont want to
or whatever reason,they just want a man for sex and nothing more!
actually it will helps lot of ppl

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11.03.2008 - 01:07
Harmonic
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Written by [user id=6782] on 10.03.2008 at 22:20

It is but non of woman how much she want sex wont pay, ok maybe soem will but its be 1% of all ok if around be soem ugly faces and you eb only cute guy she maybe can pay but in end you will sleep whit her for free

yeah but its not about ugly or not its just business
some females r busy or dont have time for relationships or dont want to
or whatever reason,they just want a man for sex and nothing more!
actually it will helps lot of ppl

Well, those girls can go to a nightclub, get picked up by a guy and have sex with him. There's still no reason for them to pay! It's the guys who want the sex more than the girls - that's why the only women who would pay a guy to sleep with them are probably really old. Is that so hard to figure out?
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11.03.2008 - 10:05
Desertman
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god..what with this stone age (thinking)!!
why she need to go out and waste a gas and reach a bar! or wait til she gets picked up!
and what if the guys there not what she lookin for and so on and on..

things should be faster than that! fast as a shark..like accept song
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11.03.2008 - 10:11
Harmonic
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Written by [user id=6782] on 11.03.2008 at 10:05

god..what with this stone age (thinking)!!
why she need to go out and waste a gas and reach a bar! or wait til she gets picked up!
and what if the guys there not what she lookin for and so on and on..

things should be faster than that! fast as a shark..like accept song

Stone age thinking!? I guess you'll have to change the world, Desertman. When the day finally comes that women will pay for sex, let me know. You'll find me in hell shoveling snow.
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11.03.2008 - 11:09
Desertman
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they will pay,also why not? its not about love or romance,no strings attached sex,its just quick fix
btw for lot of other reasons it will do just fine
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11.03.2008 - 11:16
Harmonic
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Written by [user id=6782] on 11.03.2008 at 11:09

they will pay,also why not? its not about love or romance,no strings attached sex,its just quick fix
btw for lot of other reasons it will do just fine

Okay, Desertman... why don't you go find a woman who will pay you to get sex, and then tell us all about it? And no cheating! I don't want to find out that you paid her instead. I'll be waiting to hear from you. Good luck.

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11.03.2008 - 11:42
Desertman
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Written by [user id=22888] on 11.03.2008 at 11:16

Okay, Desertman... why don't you go find a woman who will pay you to get sex, and then tell us all about it? And no cheating! I don't want to find out that you paid her instead. I'll be waiting to hear from you. Good luck.



hey harmonic where is ur understanding for women?
the term (fucking) is up to the client,they might want to call it sex,making love,fucking,raping,ect
i can let you know if i did it,but i cant tell you any other details
cos i have to respect my clients privacy,i gotta be professional
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11.03.2008 - 19:42
Harmonic
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Written by [user id=6782] on 11.03.2008 at 11:42

Written by [user id=22888] on 11.03.2008 at 11:16

Okay, Desertman... why don't you go find a woman who will pay you to get sex, and then tell us all about it? And no cheating! I don't want to find out that you paid her instead. I'll be waiting to hear from you. Good luck.



hey harmonic where is ur understanding for women?

Well, seeing as I've been with the same woman now for 15 years - and happily married for the last 5 of those years - I can confidently say that my understanding for women is exceptional.

Written by [user id=6782] on 11.03.2008 at 11:42

the term (fucking) is up to the client,they might want to call it sex,making love,fucking,raping,ect
i can let you know if i did it,but i cant tell you any other details
cos i have to respect my clients privacy,i gotta be professional

You're a virgin, aren't you?
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11.03.2008 - 20:16
Harmonic
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Written by akatana on 11.03.2008 at 20:07

@Harmonic : Yes definitely. Sorry desertman but the way you are behaving you had it coming. Moreover, in UAE, sex outside of marriage is illegal, as is cohabitation, adultery and homosexual behavior, even kissing in public is forbidden. So he is breaking some serious laws of his country engaging in his alleged gigolo existence.

Sometimes we most crave what we can least have.
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11.03.2008 - 20:18
Harmonic
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Written by akatana on 11.03.2008 at 20:17

I'm not sure what it is in this case .... sex or money?

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11.03.2008 - 21:04
Desertman
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aha..harmonic i can see what pisses you off,you with the same creature for 15 years? haha
since you married and ur (understanding for women is exceptional)
shouldnt you spend some time with (it) or her? insted of wasting ur time here
or u feel bored already?


and taka sorry for what happened latey in tunisa,anyway you have my sympathy
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11.03.2008 - 21:25
Desertman
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well i will say it to you and i will say it to lot of (...) in the future...taka your not even a man!
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11.03.2008 - 21:25
Harmonic
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@Desertman: I'd say that you are your own worst enemy. You've gone from demonstrating poor taste to bad judgment. I would rather not watch as you continue to dig a hole for yourself. See you later.
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11.03.2008 - 21:30
Desertman
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@harmonic the only hole i will dig is for the type of ppl like you and taka!
see you soon
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15.03.2008 - 02:25
Gina73ss
Hey! Isn't this thead about the bitches & the ho's? JJ

Here's an interesting story..

New York Governor Spitzer Resigns Amid Sex Scandal
Saying, "I sincerely apologize," New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer announced his resignation during a brief statement delivered Wednesday morning from his downtown Manhattan office. His stepping down comes in the wake of his being linked to a prostitution ring.

"I am deeply sorry I did not live up to what was expected of me," said Spitzer, referring to his "private failings" for which, he also said, "I've begun to atone."

The announcement (see video of the statement below) follows a stunning two days of revelations about Spitzer's personal activities. At a press conference Monday with his wife, Silda, at his side (as she was for Wednesday's announcement), Spitzer said: "I have acted in a way that violates my obligations to my family and violates my - or any - sense of right and wrong."

He added, "I apologize to the public, whom I promised better."

The resignation effectively ends Spitzer's political career just 16 months after he was elected New York's Democratic governor by a wide margin.

With Spitzer out of office, New York's state constitution calls for his job to pass to his lieutenant governor and running mate, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, 53, a legally blind former legislator. Paterson, whom the Wall Street Journal described as being "as widely liked as Mr. Spitzer is controversial," also becomes the Empire State's first African-American governor.
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