Kirk Hammett vs Dave Mustaine solos
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Posted by K✞ulu, 22.05.2008 - 11:30
Kirk: Unforgiven, Master of Puppets, Through The Never, Fade To Black
Dave: Five Magics, Holy Wars, Wake Up Dead (2nd)
My vote goes to Kirk just because I find his solos more beautiful, and he has more of those that I really like besides then ones I mentioned.
When I talk about my favorite solos, I am usually guided by how well they fit into a song and by melody (speed is not that important).
Talk about your favorite solos, so that there is no milk and water in your posts and so that we know what you are guided by when you pick one guitarist over the other. So I would like to know your opinion about who is better and why, and... vote! But please don't expand this thread to Metallica vs Megadeth battle; it's not what it was meant to be. Solos, just solos.
Poll
Whose solos do you find better?
Dave
177
Kirk
120
Total votes: 297
| K✞ulu Seeker of Truth Posts: 2573  |
Written by [user id=35853] on 22.12.2008 at 08:55 That's correct. But what we are trying to find out here is whether Marty wrote any solos himself on RIP or whether they were all written by Dave. I think that Dave could not write those solos because if you compare every solo on RIP played by Dave with every solo played by Marty, you'll see the difference in structure. Marty's got his own style. I can always identify his solos.
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| Daniel Posts: 166  |
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071  |
Written by K✞ulu on 22.12.2008 at 09:09 Like I said a couple of posts back, Marty doesn't have a single writing credit on RIP It is only Dave and on some songsDave Jr. as well. So, what I think happened is... Dave wrote the solos and when come recording time Marty gave a twist of his own to them. And if I remember correctly from back in the day I read an interview just after RIP was released and there Dave says that everything was already written just before Marty and Nick joined the band.
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| Stuart MiseryKing Posts: 413  |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.12.2008 at 13:22 I think when it comes to writing credits, the fact that someone wrote a solo for a song does not appear to be enough reason to receive a credit for it, there are thousands of examples of how solos have definitely been written by musicians who have received no credits for the writing of the song. But we don't need to look far to see an example of this, pick up any metallica album and you will see most of the songs have no writing credits for Hammett even though we know he wrote the solo... One dude comes up with the song structure, works everything out and says "hey marty, chuck a solo in their approx 32 seconds long"... in that case the guitarist still wrote the solo but doesn't deserve any writing credits for the song. This seems to be the attitude of most bands, unless you think ulrich and hetfield wrote the solo for "One" I don't think guitarists should receive writing credits for writing solos either. its about the song, if you want recognition for your solo put it in the footnotes. obviously this does not apply to yngwie malmsteen type music. EDIT: PS. it is blatantly obvious, that the mustaine solos and the friedman solos were written by two different guitarists.
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| K✞ulu Seeker of Truth Posts: 2573 |
Written by Stuart on 22.12.2008 at 14:06 Thank you very much for reasonable thinking. I was also thinking about the Hammett example. Good point anyway. And the P.S. was really crucial.
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| ToMegaTherion Posts: 718  |
This I believe to be a good contest. And one that could certainly go either way in the voting because in terms of guitar solo's both are a close match. Kirk get my vote on solo's alone, however with reguards to all round guitar playing Dave has much better timing, rhythm and above all riff's. In all of these area's except guitar solo's Dave Mustaine dances note circle's all around Kirk Hammet.
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| K✞ulu Seeker of Truth Posts: 2573 |
Written by [user id=40484] on 07.04.2009 at 09:45 In Metallica most riffs are written by James, but most solos are written and played by Kirk, so you are wrong here. And did you read the first post (the bold&underlined part)? And this actually concerns most people who posted here.
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| RockeRoy Posts: 641  |
Kirks solos are the moast memerobale, maybe mustain is a little more skillfull, but i would say Kirk winns this battle with a little bit.
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| TormentoR. Posts: 160  |
Fuck, im sick of these META VS MEGA's topics  they re EVERYWHERE!! hahahahBut yea, my vote goes to Dave as always
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Account deleted Written by TormentoR. on 17.04.2009 at 14:06 As am I. Both guitar players are Great. Dave is locked into the "Mustaine from Megadeth" style of soloing, atacking the guitar with unbridled fury. He can undoubtedly play brilliant solos. You get a glimpse of his ability with songs like She Wolf, Lucreatia , Black Curtians, etc. Take a listen to some of the rhythms he plays, isolate it and its a solo. My vote is for Dave.
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| TormentoR. Posts: 160 |
Written by [user id=40952] on 07.05.2009 at 03:36  + hes sexy haha just kiding. Dave is the man! 
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| K✞ulu Seeker of Truth Posts: 2573 |
Written by Demonmayonnaise on 03.11.2008 at 21:04 Man, I was listening to The New Order a few days ago, and I was really thrilled by Skolnick's solos, and then I recalled about this post of yours, and I must say you're probably quite right (even if this is a bit off-topic).
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| Deadmeat Necrobutcher Posts: 2437  |
Mustaine is a better guitarist but hammets solos are much better. metallica has some really great melodic solos. the solo on ride the lightning is magnificent!
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| Hermann Langke Brahmastra Corps Posts: 471  |
Dave is the best metal guitarist in the world according to a book by Joel Mciver.and i agree with him as Dave has always been under-rated n both the rhythm and lead guitar spectrum.and he poured out hid frustration in the some kind of monster doc.rightly so.Kirk i believe is a shadow of his former self.Kirk would have never been what he is today without Dave.Remember Kirk worked on Dave's solos on KEA and refined it. 
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| SatyriconChick Posts: 248  |
Kirk. He is more fluid with his solos, and less erratic, and they just sound more melodic. I'm not going to diss Dave Mustaine, because he's great, but to be honest, during the Friedman/Menza lineup, I always liked Marty's solos better than Dave's. But with Kirk and Dave, I just compare their solos in Kill 'Em All songs or in general on Metallica and Megadeth albums, and it's always been Kirk I've found a better guitar soloist.
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| Razorback Posts: 220  |
I voted Kirk,Dave is great guitarist too,but Kirk has some special sence for music,when you listening his solos every tone is on the best possible place,and he is very creative,he knows how to put emotion and energy into solos, i am always touched when i hear it even if i heard it meny times.
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| Angelic Storm Melodious Posts: 6675  |
Kirk. Dave is a good player, but his soloing style is incredibly limited. As a guitar player myself, I can attest to the fact that Kirk's solos are harder to play. In spite of the fact some idiots say "Kirk isn't a good guitar player". Kirk can play good melodic and balladic solos, as well as the more crazy stuff. Wheras Dave can only really play good chaotic solos. And when he does play melodic leads, they are usually simplistic. Or at least they are compared to Kirk's. I don't get me wrong, I think Dave is a great guitarist, but he is not better than Kirk.
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| IronBlackZepp Posts: 180  |
Well I picked Kirk because I just cant get enough of some of his solos. Plus I have been a Metallica fan longer, they were the second metal band I got into after Black Sabbath, and it would be a while before I would get into any others. So I know his solos better, but their is just something about them as well. Dont get me wrong Dave is great as well, but solo's on songs like Ride the Lightning and Fade to Black are hard to beat.
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| Warman Erotic Stains Posts: 7695  |
Funny thing about me is that I am a rabid Metallica fanboy. But their solos have never appealed to me, at least not considering the amount of them. Sure there are some stand out ones, but overall... nah.
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| sbgmetal Posts: 869  |
Well i see it that both released awesome solos! but c'mon now kirk does awesome solos like in 4 album tops... while dave has been doin awesome solos for many more cds...
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| thewall30 Posts: 349  |
Ha this is an easy one, Dave Mustaine all the way! Kirk's also pretty insane at solos but just not as Dave... Some of Dave's solos are just ridiculous! For example: Tornado Of Souls, Rattlehead, etc. their just all amazing!
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| K✞ulu Seeker of Truth Posts: 2573 |
Written by thewall30 on 24.01.2010 at 02:45 Dude, Marty plays the solo on Tornado of Souls...
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| macraigma Posts: 52  |
I voted Kirk, for his technique of course.
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| thewall30 Posts: 349 |
Written by K✞ulu on 24.01.2010 at 22:12 Well thank you for pointing that out................ still Dave is a beast! O and another thing, Dave has to sing all the vocals while playing some crazy ass riffs and solos, while Kirk is just the lead guitarist. Nothing against Kirk I'm just saying Dave has to do a little more than Kirk does...
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