When bands change their singer?
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Posted by ToMegaTherion, 30.09.2009 - 06:44
What do you do when your favorite band changes its singer?
Have there been any bands who have changed their singer for the better/worse?
Best/Worst singer change?
Anyway the general idea is to open up this discussion, because Im curious what people have to say about this. Because its one thing to change a drummer or a bass player, or an ok guitarist, a band can replase them and move on, but it is to a much less extent for singers. Yes there have been some good changes ie, Paul Di Anno - Bruce Dickinson, Tom Greely - Mat Barlow as well as probably a few others.
Overall I would say if you change your singer you change the most 'human' element of the music, very few bands do it and maintain their album sales and quality.
BTW - Tarja Turunan - Anette Olzen was a great move by Nightwish
| Yasmine Posts: 1485  |
Di'Anno -> Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden) Ozzy -> Ronnie James Dio (Black Sabbath) Agree.
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| Yasmine Posts: 1485 |
"BTW - Tarja Turunan - Anette Olzen was a great move by Nightwish " That has to be extreme sarcasm. And Mr.Void I mostly agree about extreme bands, usually not much a difference.
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| Sepulnation Posts: 111  |
What about Sepultura? Anthrax? Helloween? When a band change their singers, the band starts a "new age"... for instance, after max, before max.
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| Yasmine Posts: 1485 |
Written by Sepulnation on 23.05.2011 at 07:29 That isn't always true. Annihilator, Savatage etc.
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| Coté Posts: 138  |
I used to have Nightwish as one of my favorite bands, but, you know what happended... Now I just stick with their before-Anette material, I tried to listen to the new song but they just seem kind of poppy.
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| Valentin B Iconoclast Posts: 10094  |
Written by Coté on 23.05.2011 at 11:43 well, the same comment about Sepultura here. "Once" already was a very industrial metal-oriented album at times, one can see how they went from Nemo to Amaranth, for example. Obviously Nemo is awesome and Amaranth is dull as hell but i blame Holopainen for that, he does almost all the writing. anyway, to counter all the hate in this thread, let's not forget the times when changing singers worked extremely well: Iced Earth's Night of the Stormrider, Burnt Offerings and (imo) The Glorious Burden, all four albums Black Sabbath did with Dio, Accept - Blood of the Nations, Exodus's Shovel Headed Kill Machine, and many others.
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| Infernal Eternal Posts: 647  |
I believe the attitude of a band usually changes with the vocalist. Sepultura is a great example, although they started changing before the new singer came. However, his arrival changed the band completely.
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| CobiWan1993 Secundum Filium Posts: 1365  |
It depends on the singer and the circumstances in place. I personally think Todd La Torre in Queensrÿche is a blessing for that band after the falling out with Tate, while if Jonas Renkse of Katatonia were to be replaced (which would be extremely unlikely, considering he and Nyström are the main men in charge), it would probably be really bad.
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| Thrash del Sur Posts: 95  |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.09.2009 at 13:50 I agree with you Marcel! Always sharing your wisdom! Cannibal Corpse things turned out good, I like Chris Barnes but George is way better then him
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071  |
Written by Thrash del Sur on 05.03.2014 at 23:11 Dman, that's an old post of mine you quoted  Had forgot all about it.
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| M C Vice ex-polydactyl Posts: 3408  |
I probably wouldn't have noticed that Kamelot changed singers if I hadn't already known that they had.
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| toxx Supreme being Posts: 390  |
Mayhem has had a few changes when it comes to vocalists, but also a quite significant change of guitarists. There is a distinct difference in sound with and without Blasphemer on guitar. Depends on who does the writing as well. In my opinion, Mayhem did their best work with Maniac on vocal. And they've had a few different vocalists through the years. Messiah, Dead, Attila (on De Mysteriis), Maniac, and then Attila again. But then again, the changes in lineup haven't changed the feel of their music. It has evolved, but you still know it's Mayhem.
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| DayFly Posts: 383  |
In hard rock, a genre were vocals have a large focus, I often care more about the guitar than the vocals. Accept without Dirkschneider I am fine with (even the maligned Eat the Heat album has a few decent songs), Accept without Hoffman would not keep my interest. Ditto Dokken (Lynch is the man), Black Sabbath (Iommi is a god), Scorpions (I love Roth) and most projects Michael Schenker was involved in. Vocals in power and doom are more important. Vocals in extreme metal are a dime a dozen. I honestly wonder why bands bother hiring ''vocalists'' to preform grunts/growls/screeches, considering one of the instrumentalists should be able to produce such noises equally well. Probably to have someone else jump around stage. Then again, I would never imagine anyone listening to, say for instance, thrash because of the vocals.
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| Vombatus Potorro Posts: 2391  |
Written by DayFly on 06.05.2014 at 20:09 I assume you have no clue of extreme metal to say such thing.
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| Karlabos Posts: 5736  |
Written by DayFly on 06.05.2014 at 20:09 I feel insulted. Well, not gonna argue.
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff Posts: 21306  |
People think Dave Ingram Bolt Thrower is poor? 
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| Troy Killjoy perfunctionist Staff Posts: 21306 |
Written by deadone on 08.05.2014 at 08:00 I'm incredibly biased as I don't think I can consider any Bolt Thrower album to be poor. Even these days with my interest in metal waning extremely I still find myself coming back to their discography on the regular.
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| Enteroctopus Posts: 155  |
Borknagar! But as for Ozzy -> Dio and Chris Barnes -> G Fischer, I feel like technically the replacements are better, but Ozzy and Barnes had distinctive personalities, and Ozzy especially has a one-of-a-kind voice. Sabbath and Corpse are just different bands after their frontmen left. Really, really good bands, but different. I prefer the original lineups of both.
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| Jtbmetal123 Posts: 387  |
It depends on the band for me. Some bands have better original members and some have better replacements.
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| F3ynman Nocturnal Bro Contributor Posts: 3026  |
I got into Black Sabbath mainly through Heaven and Hell I think. I really liked Dio's vocals since I first heard it in Holy Diver. Therefore, when I listened to older Sabbath, I didn't like Ozzy at first. For example, when I came across Into the Void on YouTube, I loved the heavy riffs, but as soon as Ozzy started singing I couldn't stand it! Now I've gotten more used to his singing style and see it as a unique element of early Sabbath (kind of like Dave Mustaine in Megadeth). So now I see Ozzy-era Sabbath and Dio-era Sabbath as almost two different, but equally enjoyable bands. (Although Ozzy's performance on Paranoid makes me sometimes cringe - give me Dio's opera voice any day! )
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