AndMetalForAll kual21
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22.01.2012 - 01:02Rating: 7
Highlights: "Dreaming In Columbian", "World Of Hurt" and "Feed My Head"
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RavenKing
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This album sucks. Typical of the sucky decade the 90s were for Thrash.
Pretty much every new album from an 80s Thrash band sucked.
When you put Thrash and 90s in the same sentence, the word that comes to mind is 'sucks'.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
22.01.2012 - 11:20Rating: 6
This album always leaves a bad taste in my mouth after giving it a listen. Hollow and barren is how I'd describe it.
A more than fair review.
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What nu metal influences are there?! NU metal did not even exist. I thought there was a Tony Iommi influence in the guitar work.
I am one of the few that enjoys this album.
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AndMetalForAll kual21
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22.01.2012 - 21:21Rating: 7
Written by [user id=17278] on 22.01.2012 at 20:39
What nu metal influences are there?! NU metal did not even exist. I thought there was a Tony Iommi influence in the guitar work.
I am one of the few that enjoys this album.
What i meant to say is: the nu metal is usually associated to alternative, mixing grunge with heavy for example...In my opinion Overkill started that alternative metal, i didn't meant to say nu-metal as the style itself...but the start of something alternative in the world of metal..and of course giving the first steps in the nu-metal scene...
And there isn't a specific date to the start of nu-metal, it arises in the 90's. I don't dislike this album either but it's way different than the typical Overkill.
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I don't hear any grunge/alternative influences on this album; I hear Black Sabbath influences though
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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22.01.2012 - 23:22Rating: 9
Written by [user id=17278] on 22.01.2012 at 21:43
I don't hear any grunge/alternative influences on this album; I hear Black Sabbath influences though
I totally agree with this. The album is highly influenced by Sabbath. Grunge/alternative are not really influences I hear on this album at all. I personally love this album a lot, although it took me a while to fully warm to some of it's tracks. "Weight Of The World" and possibly also "Just Like You", are the only ones that really bear any resemblance to the Overkill of the previous 4 albums, so I can definitely see why some fans wouldn't like this one much.
"World Of Hurt" is my fave song from this album. I love the lyrics, and melodies, and also the amazing solo.
@Ravenking: You seem to clearly see this album as being a lot worse than earlier Overkill material, yet I thought you hated Overkill, even their earlier thrash days...
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RavenKing
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Written by Angelic Storm on 22.01.2012 at 23:22
@Ravenking: You seem to clearly see this album as being a lot worse than earlier Overkill material, yet I thought you hated Overkill, even their earlier thrash days...
I never liked Overkill, yes. But, Imo, they released better material than what we can hear on this album during their career.
For example, "Ironbound" is not an album I would buy but I would surely take it over "I Hear Black" anyday. Same for "Horrorscope" and some others.
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They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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25.01.2012 - 14:31Rating: 9
Written by RavenKing on 23.01.2012 at 00:37 I never liked Overkill, yes. But, Imo, they released better material than what we can hear on this album during their career.
For example, "Ironbound" is not an album I would buy but I would surely take it over "I Hear Black" anyday. Same for "Horrorscope" and some others.
Ah, okay I know what you mean now. So you don't find Overkill's thrash material entirely without merit then?
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RavenKing
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.01.2012 at 14:31
Written by RavenKing on 23.01.2012 at 00:37 I never liked Overkill, yes. But, Imo, they released better material than what we can hear on this album during their career.
For example, "Ironbound" is not an album I would buy but I would surely take it over "I Hear Black" anyday. Same for "Horrorscope" and some others.
Ah, okay I know what you mean now. So you don't find Overkill's thrash material entirely without merit then?
I don't think I ever said that those guys mever released anything decent or have no talent. I only said that I don't like this kind of Thrash.
When it comes to Thrash, I like it to be more extreme. That's why I like bands such as Flames, Hellish Crossfire, Hypnosia, Kreator, Merciless, early Slayer, etc.
Overkill is too tame for me. Anyway, like it happens quite often with Thrash bands, vocals are enough to turn me off.
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They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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26.01.2012 - 05:46Rating: 9
Written by RavenKing on 26.01.2012 at 00:41 I don't think I ever said that those guys mever released anything decent or have no talent. I only said that I don't like this kind of Thrash.
When it comes to Thrash, I like it to be more extreme. That's why I like bands such as Flames, Hellish Crossfire, Hypnosia, Kreator, Merciless, early Slayer, etc.
Overkill is too tame for me. Anyway, like it happens quite often with Thrash bands, vocals are enough to turn me off.
Well, Overkill have created some very aggressive riffs in their career... But I can understand about the vocals. I myself love Bobby's unique vocals, and his screams give me the chills still today. However, I acknowledge that his vocals are a very aqquired taste, and it doesn't surprise me that some people hate them even though I love them myself. lol
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AndMetalForAll kual21
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26.01.2012 - 17:31Rating: 7
Written by Angelic Storm on 26.01.2012 at 05:46
Written by RavenKing on 26.01.2012 at 00:41 I don't think I ever said that those guys mever released anything decent or have no talent. I only said that I don't like this kind of Thrash.
When it comes to Thrash, I like it to be more extreme. That's why I like bands such as Flames, Hellish Crossfire, Hypnosia, Kreator, Merciless, early Slayer, etc.
Overkill is too tame for me. Anyway, like it happens quite often with Thrash bands, vocals are enough to turn me off.
Well, Overkill have created some very aggressive riffs in their career... But I can understand about the vocals. I myself love Bobby's unique vocals, and his screams give me the chills still today. However, I acknowledge that his vocals are a very aqquired taste, and it doesn't surprise me that some people hate them even though I love them myself. lol
In my opinion "Blitz" is one of the top frontmen in metal music. He has an excellent voice that has been improving through the years, you can see that in the band's most recent album Ironbound...what a performance, he was the best member performing in Ironbound album..
He shifts from high pitched singing to a lower range with a great and unique voice, and that is very rare to listen in a heavy metal record. He's one of my favourite singers in metal, no doubt about that!!
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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26.01.2012 - 17:58Rating: 9
Written by AndMetalForAll on 26.01.2012 at 17:31 In my opinion "Blitz" is one of the top frontmen in metal music. He has an excellent voice that has been improving through the years, you can see that in the band's most recent album Ironbound...what a performance, he was the best member performing in Ironbound album..
He shifts from high pitched singing to a lower range with a great and unique voice, and that is very rare to listen in a heavy metal record. He's one of my favourite singers in metal, no doubt about that!!
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I couldn't agree more! I actually prefer his voice on more recent albums as it's matured and has more grit in it than before. I also think he's an awesome frontman with great stage presence, and he puts everything into what he does.
He can still do THAT venemous scream even today, which just blows me away, and his lower range has definitely improved with age. He does have a very unique voice, and that makes it an aqquired taste, but I've always loved it a lot. He's one of my faves too for sure!
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LWR88
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13.02.2012 - 07:02Rating: 8
I actually enjoyed this, though I listen to all types of hard rock and metal. I definitely agree with the Sabbath influence on this. But I always thought this was a solid album all the way through without any songs that stand out. It's definitely different from anything else they have done. If I remember correctly this was their highest charting album in the U.S. which tells me they were building momentum up to that point, and then this disappointed some of their fans and probably cost them some album sales on their next releases.
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