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A well-rounded review, crafted with love.
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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09.03.2013 - 14:35Rating: 7
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Well, I guess you said it all, and it is also great to hear that you talk about tastefulness of keyboard, lyrical themes, well-roundedness and, what's the most important, honesty. I was just listening to some songs of SONGS today + I have listened to the whole Riverside discography the other day, and what I thought of today is that Riverside don't do bullshit. They talk about real things, they write real songs, and they don't overdo anything. What I mean is when Mariusz wants to scream he does, and it works in those parts, but he does not do anything unnatural, just like the rest of the band. They just remain themselves, and they are not trying to prove anything to somebody, and look at their marvelous discography. Take any song, and it's a single. It's a separate idea. You can pretty much call any of their album SONGS.
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Savor what you feel and what you see
Things that may not seem important now
But may be tomorrow
R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner
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BloodTears ANA-thema ElitePosts: 11835 |
09.03.2013 - 16:42Rating: 9
It's curious to see that when people like Riverside, they like the whole of Riverside, at least the people I've met have a great connection to the band.
This review is very honest. When I reviewed Rapid Eye Movement I felt that need as well. It was also my first review for MS, which is kinda special. Back on topic...
I really love this album and how this band constantly grows. At every album, they cement their status as a band. It's undeniable how talented they are and their discography speaks for itself. Don't know how they do it, but it really never disappoints me.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
09.03.2013 - 16:51Rating: 7
I applaud bands for wanting to expand their musical direction by exploring other avenues of influence but 70's prog rock? Ugh. Opeth, Dark Suns, Steve Wilson have already lost me and now Riverside is on it's way. Their is something to be said about bands like Dream Theater putting out similar record after record because it's "safe" and will not alienate a particular fan base. It is after all prog metal. My favorite band of all time, Rush, have different musical eras but at least the 70's prog rock era was well, in the 70's!
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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09.03.2013 - 18:09Rating: 7
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Well, I should say, though, that having listened to the album 8 times, I still can't get into it. Something is still unsatisfying. I don't know, maybe I a looking for hooks a la ADHD... don't know... Memories in my Head took unbelievable number of listens to really start liking (even after I wrote the review), but it will be the same here... I don't know, maybe it will click sometime I will be walking from work contemplating my life...
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Savor what you feel and what you see
Things that may not seem important now
But may be tomorrow
R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner
Satan was a Backstreet Boy
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embracing
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09.03.2013 - 19:56Rating: 9
Great review. I was sure you were gonna review this one
Weird how this is less metal than ADHD, but somehow this is what sits well for them. This is what they do awesomely.
Let's see what they'll do in Leipzig tomorrow night :D especially alongside Jolly (the other awesome album holder of this year).
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Written by tea[m]ster on 09.03.2013 at 16:51
I applaud bands for wanting to expand their musical direction by exploring other avenues of influence but 70's prog rock? Ugh. Opeth, Dark Suns, Steve Wilson have already lost me and now Riverside is on it's way. Their is something to be said about bands like Dream Theater putting out similar record after record because it's "safe" and will not alienate a particular fan base. It is after all prog metal. My favorite band of all time, Rush, have different musical eras but at least the 70's prog rock era was well, in the 70's!
well said !
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
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And if honest music doesn't count, I don't know what does.
Truer words were never spoken!!!!!!
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"A life all mine
Is what I choose
At the end of my days"
--The Gathering "A Life All Mine" from Souvenirs
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Dark Blood The Avenger
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10.03.2013 - 08:55Rating: 9
You nailed it Milena. And so did Riverside... again.
I've been listening to this album a lot in the last few days, and it's one of those that gets me hooked and after a few days break my brain calls me into it again. Yeah... that's the Riverside I've known since "Out of Myself".
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Merchant of Doom
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Honest music? How can be honest music when you just copy 70s prog and quite badly too? This album is a huge disappointment, on par with Steve Wilson's latest. They are just self-centred wankery (although the The Raven takes the biscuit). Boring, boring, boring. Inoffensive, harmless, innocuous music for bankers. Now shoot me!
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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10.03.2013 - 14:05Rating: 7
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 11:54
Honest music? How can be honest music when you just copy 70s prog and quite badly too?
So who do they copy I am wondering? To me they quite like themselves on this album, even if it is different.
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Savor what you feel and what you see
Things that may not seem important now
But may be tomorrow
R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner
Satan was a Backstreet Boy
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 14:05
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 11:54
Honest music? How can be honest music when you just copy 70s prog and quite badly too?
So who do they copy I am wondering? To me they quite like themselves on this album, even if it is different.
They don't copy anybody in particular (unlike SW), it's the general feel and the use of some instruments (and how they are used). I grew up with 70s prog (yes, I'm old), so to me it's even more irritating. I suppose if you are young and quite new to 70s' influenced prog, you'll like it. To me, it just sounds like a bad re-hash of old stuff. Where's the grumpy icon?
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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10.03.2013 - 14:37Rating: 7
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 14:23
Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 14:05
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 11:54
Honest music? How can be honest music when you just copy 70s prog and quite badly too?
So who do they copy I am wondering? To me they quite like themselves on this album, even if it is different.
They don't copy anybody in particular (unlike SW), it's the general feel and the use of some instruments (and how they are used). I grew up with 70s prog (yes, I'm old), so to me it's even more irritating. I suppose if you are young and quite new to 70s' influenced prog, you'll like it. To me, it just sounds like a bad re-hash of old stuff. Where's the grumpy icon?
Yeah, I am not that familiar with 70's prog. I have listened to some Camel, first King Crimson Record, a little of Yes, and some Pink Floyd, and that's pretty much it, and out of these SONGS reminds me of Pink Floyd at times, but nothing else.
I am not particularly enthralled by this new record; I think it's the weakest that they have yet had to offer, but for me it has nothing to do with the style. It's about the content.
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Savor what you feel and what you see
Things that may not seem important now
But may be tomorrow
R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner
Satan was a Backstreet Boy
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 14:37
I am not particularly enthralled by this new record; I think it's the weakest that they have yet had to offer, but for me it has nothing to do with the style. It's about the content.
yes, there's some Pink Floyd in that too. I agree with your comment above. I think I'm even more annoyed because the songs are weak. If they did a better job, it would have been more bearable, I guess!
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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10.03.2013 - 15:03Rating: 7
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 14:56
Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 14:37
I am not particularly enthralled by this new record; I think it's the weakest that they have yet had to offer, but for me it has nothing to do with the style. It's about the content.
yes, there's some Pink Floyd in that too. I agree with your comment above. I think I'm even more annoyed because the songs are weak. If they did a better job, it would have been more bearable, I guess!
But are you familiar with their other albums because I am wondering whether you are comparing this album to their previous or you just think the songs are not good?
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Savor what you feel and what you see
Things that may not seem important now
But may be tomorrow
R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner
Satan was a Backstreet Boy
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
10.03.2013 - 15:06Rating: 8
70's prog is just a byword for the style of the album, this has a thoroughly modern sound to me.
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 15:03
But are you familiar with their other albums because I am wondering whether you are comparing this album to their previous or you just think the songs are not good?
I have most of them, but the ones I enjoyed most were the first two, "Second Life Syndrome" and "Rapid Eye Movement". They were well crafted, much more original and fresh. The songs on the new album are just weak, also in comparison with the albums I mentioned.
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Unhealer Eclecticist
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10.03.2013 - 15:42Rating: 7
Written by R'Vannith on 10.03.2013 at 15:06
70's prog is just a byword for the style of the album, this has a thoroughly modern sound to me.
Yes, be sure the sound of the album is modern, but I agree that for the compositions they took a look into the past. Not sure if 70's, it sometimes makes me think of 80's music or maybe late 70's.
A.D.H.D was a record modern on every aspect.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
10.03.2013 - 15:50Rating: 8
Written by Unhealer on 10.03.2013 at 15:42
Written by R'Vannith on 10.03.2013 at 15:06
70's prog is just a byword for the style of the album, this has a thoroughly modern sound to me.
Yes, be sure the sound of the album is modern, but I agree that for the compositions they took a look into the past. Not sure if 70's, it sometimes makes me think of 80's music or maybe late 70's.
A.D.H.D was a record modern on every aspect.
I think many people think always "70's prog" when they look for a target for claims of unoriginality. The style here could have as easily been influenced by a neo-progressive sound beyond the 70's. Of course it all comes down to those influential prog rock legends inspiring an identifiable style within the progressive rock/metal genre.
But I think this sounds very fresh. I mean stylistically you can draw many comparisons to 70's prog (or otherwise 80's, 90's perhaps) but it all sounds like a modern interpretation of that sound to me. I don't understand why bands that use this approach are seen these days as just rehashing old ideas. They compose their OWN music with 70's prog, as influential as it is, as a key inspiration. Yet the sound bands like Riverside produce is completely modern to me. It doesn't simply borrow or clone, it reinterprets (or perhaps even reinvents), with all the modern trappings like the wonderful production job that only modern technology can give. And the songwriting isn't just something they've ripped from a Pink Floyd cassette, it's all of their own composition.
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Unhealer Eclecticist
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10.03.2013 - 16:53Rating: 7
Written by R'Vannith on 10.03.2013 at 15:50
They compose their OWN music with 70's prog, as influential as it is, as a key inspiration. Yet the sound bands like Riverside produce is completely modern to me. It doesn't simply borrow or clone, it reinterprets (or perhaps even reinvents), with all the modern trappings like the wonderful production job that only modern technology can give. And the songwriting isn't just something they've ripped from a Pink Floyd cassette, it's all of their own composition.
Yup, this is a band that already found a sound of it's own, they'd have to try very hard to sound unoriginal. Still I think their sound has been lovingly looking to older prog from the very start, I'd have preferred this specific band had looked elsewhere for a change. Opeth and Dark Suns "going 70's" was one thing, Pain Of Salvation's case was different as well... in the case of Riverside (and Steven Wilson maybe), it feels somewhat redundant.
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K✞ulu Seeker of Truth
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10.03.2013 - 17:25Rating: 7
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 15:22
Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 15:03
But are you familiar with their other albums because I am wondering whether you are comparing this album to their previous or you just think the songs are not good?
I have most of them, but the ones I enjoyed most were the first two, "Second Life Syndrome" and "Rapid Eye Movement". They were well crafted, much more original and fresh. The songs on the new album are just weak, also in comparison with the albums I mentioned.
Out of Myself and Second Life Syndrome you mean. The first one is just very special.
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Savor what you feel and what you see
Things that may not seem important now
But may be tomorrow
R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner
Satan was a Backstreet Boy
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 17:25
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 15:22
Written by K✞ulu on 10.03.2013 at 15:03
But are you familiar with their other albums because I am wondering whether you are comparing this album to their previous or you just think the songs are not good?
I have most of them, but the ones I enjoyed most were the first two, "Second Life Syndrome" and "Rapid Eye Movement". They were well crafted, much more original and fresh. The songs on the new album are just weak, also in comparison with the albums I mentioned.
Out of Myself and Second Life Syndrome you mean. The first one is just very special.
Sorry, yes... Didn't check, went by memory (big mistake!). I do like "Rapid Eye Movement" too, though.
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Saiyanity
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 11:54
Boring, boring, boring. Inoffensive, harmless, innocuous music
I've never understood why people say this, do you really only like music that's offensive? For me most "offensive" music just comes across as contrived, as if the bands are just putting on a show. Also I don't see how the music being either offensive or unoffensive has any bearing on it's quality. Music should be judged on it's own merits not on how many people offends or how "harmful" it is.
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by Saiyanity on 11.03.2013 at 01:53
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 11:54
Boring, boring, boring. Inoffensive, harmless, innocuous music
I've never understood why people say this, do you really only like music that's offensive? For me most "offensive" music just comes across as contrived, as if the bands are just putting on a show. Also I don't see how the music being either offensive or unoffensive has any bearing on it's quality. Music should be judged on it's own merits not on how many people offends or how "harmful" it is.
No, I also like good inoffensive music.
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Saiyanity
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 11.03.2013 at 11:26
Written by Saiyanity on 11.03.2013 at 01:53
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.03.2013 at 11:54
Boring, boring, boring. Inoffensive, harmless, innocuous music
I've never understood why people say this, do you really only like music that's offensive? For me most "offensive" music just comes across as contrived, as if the bands are just putting on a show. Also I don't see how the music being either offensive or unoffensive has any bearing on it's quality. Music should be judged on it's own merits not on how many people offends or how "harmful" it is.
No, I also like good inoffensive music.
Fair enough haha. I've always just found it strange that people criticize music for being inoffensive.
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Iron Nostarion Maiden Whore
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22.09.2013 - 01:15Rating: 9
'70s prog is actually great. It's adventurous and fun, one of my most favorite genres to ever exist. I LOVE it, not mind it, if a band goes there. To be honest I just got this album and it doesn't sound too much like '70s prog; this band is progressive however and it may very well sound similar at times with progressive rock bands (who were obviously at their pinnacle in the '70s). You guys should realize most of the progressive bands' fanbases (I can leave out some exceptions like Tool and the "GROWL FOR ME MIKAEL.. PLS" Opeth fans) actually probably enjoy them going down the "70s prog" road. There's no place for total unoriginality in '70s prog because you can't rip off a whole song as hard as you try. Thing is, progressive musicians find solace in experimentation and experimenting in the footsteps of their first influences' ways probably is a fun road for them to be taken.
Most prog fans however love a lot of music types, love hearing experimentation and love any music with a meaning. So if it may be 'inoffensive' or 'harmless' to you; get back to Cannibal Corpse (no offense intended with that to either you or the bands); because most likely the term 'progressive' won't be your cup of tea, but it is certainly not bad music. It takes a lot of knowledge and effort, requires high standards, pleases a lot of people, and certainly has meaning and substance. ^^
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To their tombs the people are immured,
There is their gold, treasure and wealth,
The only condition is to ignore them,
Those who feed on corruption and weave death
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03.07.2020 - 22:47Rating: 9
It´s a great release, with lots of well crafted and beautiful moments to remember. The consistency of this band always amazes me. I absolutely adore "We Got Used To Us", what a fantastic song.
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