Draugen
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27.10.2015 - 14:36Rating: 9
Nice to see a review of this hidden gem. One of my favorite albums of the year for sure.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
I want to say "NO fucking way" to:
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Below The Sun are at their very core a funeral doom band.
but just in time I realized it is about a band called 'BELOW The Sun' and NOT 'SWALLOW The Sun'
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Alex F
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 27.10.2015 at 17:12
I want to say "NO fucking way" to:
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Below The Sun are at their very core a funeral doom band.
but just in time I realized it is about a band called 'BELOW The Sun' and NOT 'SWALLOW The Sun'
HAhaha glad to see you're always ready to rip on StS.
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Agree with pretty much every word and number. Grrrreat stuff.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Alex F on 27.10.2015 at 18:15
HAhaha glad to see you're always ready to rip on StS.
Every chance I get.
WAs even ripping on them last Saturday over at the Faal and Eye Of Solitude split release release gig with a couple of the Faal and EoS guys.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
If this is funeral doom metal then I am a goddam chinaman. Discovered this album earlier this year thru my usual post metal informants. I've checked out Evoken and Esoteric before, not sure if I would use those bands for comparison. There is definitely doom metal blips on the radar but in general I would label this post metal. At any rate, great review and thanks.
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Alex F
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Written by tea[m]ster on 29.10.2015 at 22:25
If this is funeral doom metal then I am a goddam chinaman. Discovered this album earlier this year thru my usual post metal informants. I've checked out Evoken and Esoteric before, not sure if I would use those bands for comparison. There is definitely doom metal blips on the radar but in general I would label this post metal. At any rate, great review and thanks.
There is definitely a lot of post-metal infused within, but the entire structure of the album, from general chord-progression trends to the overarching simplicity in time-signature changes and individual song structuring is 100% funeral doom. Compare it with the musical theory behind other funeral doom acts and you'll see that Below the Sun fall into that categorization very very heavily. Thanks for the compliment though! I'm curious why you think this is primarily post-metal versus doom? Because honestly the only post-metal I see manifests within the thematic progression (in a musical sense, not lyrical), where each song builds to multiple climaxes in a very theatrical fashion.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
This is what I wrote about the album last January:
"Below The Sun hails from the cold tundra's of Siberia. Cold their music is although from time to time warmth radiates from it. The band itself claims to be playing post metal, I, however, claim it is funeral doom with a light psychedelic touch to it and very reminiscent of Esoteric. During the subdued passages a pinch of post metal can be discerned. For the duration of six songs the collective goes about it as a steamroller operated by a sloth. The listener is taken for a slow ride only to be released at the end of it all. This is the sort of funeral doom that really makes me happy. But then again reference band Esoteric is one of my absolute favourites. What Below The Sun presents here for the very first time is mighty impressive. So, funeral doom junkies? run with the speed of a snail to the nearest computer with an internet connection and order the album directly from the band or the label."
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Written by tea[m]ster on 29.10.2015 at 22:25
If this is funeral doom metal then I am a goddam chinaman.
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Alex F
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 30.10.2015 at 11:53
This is what I wrote about the album last January:
Glad to see you can corroborate my claims. Definitely funeral doom, though there is enough outside influence for people to have their own interpretation i suppose.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
Well, like Marcel said, the band lists post-metal as one of the genre tags on their bandcamp page. Cannot argue with that.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by tea[m]ster on 31.10.2015 at 01:34
Well, like Marcel said, the band lists post-metal as one of the genre tags on their bandcamp page. Cannot argue with that.
Children Of Bodom used to call themselves black metal. So yeah, you can argue with that. It's not unusual for musicians to not know what the heck they are playing.
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Alex F
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Written by tea[m]ster on 31.10.2015 at 01:34
Well, like Marcel said, the band lists post-metal as one of the genre tags on their bandcamp page. Cannot argue with that.
Just to repeat what Rod said; musicians often aren't the smartest nor best informed individuals, and usually don't quite know how to define their music. What is possible is that they set out to be a post-metal/funeral doom group but wound up dropping most of the post-metal. Also, going by your logic, they also list funeral doom in the genre tags, so your initial comment of calling this pure post-metal would also be incorrect
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BTW, bands on Bandcamp often put loads of genres that don't even relate to them in the tags to get more exposure.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
I am not a musician, nor do I play one on TV - but to oppose my view by telling me they don't know what genre of music they are playing? Please. I don't buy it. Especially in this day and age, when their are so many categories and sub-genres of music fused together. The media outlets available to them for comparison is at an all time high. If anything, if they don't know wtf they are playing , the band will ask for help/opinions.
I never said this was straight post metal. I said I hear doom metal - the lethargic gate and buildups of the songs. If anything, we can commend the band for making a really original album that combines post metal aesthetics with funeral doom structures. And yes, it's 50/50. I will not change my opinion about the post metal, I think I have earned the right to distinguish.
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If a band just plays music that they like without thinking about what category it will fall into they often end up not really knowing which genre it belongs to. And just because a band says they play a certain style doesn't change what category most other people will put it in. If Opeth went around saying they play post death rock it wouldn't make it true. Genres aren't entirely objective, but I'd say this is for the most part clearly funeral doom.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by tea[m]ster on 01.11.2015 at 01:13 I am not a musician, nor do I play one on TV - but to oppose my view by telling me they don't know what genre of music they are playing? Please. I don't buy it.
No need to take it personal.
Bring Me The Horizon, a young band during the internet age, said they were grindcore once. They could have searched for some info too, right? Is it so unbelievable that bands sometimes do their music without really knowing what they are playing? Not all bands are that concious about it, specially where their aim is just making heavy music and not "making X metal". Not a difficult concept to grasp.
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tea[m]ster Au Pays Natal ContributorPosts: 5266 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 01.11.2015 at 10:25
Written by tea[m]ster on 01.11.2015 at 01:13 I am not a musician, nor do I play one on TV - but to oppose my view by telling me they don't know what genre of music they are playing? Please. I don't buy it.
No need to take it personal.
Bring Me The Horizon, a young band during the internet age, said they were grindcore once. They could have searched for some info too, right? Is it so unbelievable that bands sometimes do their music without really knowing what they are playing? Not all bands are that concious about it, specially where their aim is just making heavy music and not "making X metal". Not a difficult concept to grasp.
Doc - I didn't take it personally man, it's all good. I am just perplexed how some of these bands that were mentioned can't figure out what style of music they play. Especially today, when genre tagging is arguably the most important factor for selling their product/getting their music noticed. Of course it's really more of a compliment than a negative if you don't get pigeon-holed under one generic style of music.
Oh, and this album is really dam good. The "spacey" - aura of the music also lends itself to post metal...but ultimately, I can't believe I am digging a funeral doom album 😱😱😱😱😱
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by tea[m]ster on 01.11.2015 at 16:22 Of course it's really more of a compliment than a negative if you don't get pigeon-holed under one generic style of music.
I totally agree with you. It's always cool when bands do more than they actually thought they were doing.
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Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Alex F
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Written by tea[m]ster on 01.11.2015 at 16:22
Oh, and this album is really dam good. The "spacey" - aura of the music also lends itself to post metal...but ultimately, I can't believe I am digging a funeral doom album 😱😱😱😱😱
Glad you like it! And I'm sorry if it seemed like anyone was being hostile towards your opinion. In the end, I'm just glad a bunch of people are digging this relatively unknown album!
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Written by [user id=142921] on 01.11.2015 at 08:29
Didn't one of the Sunn members make some supposedly preposterous claim that they fell under genre X? Sorry for the vagueness lol
Uhm. Yes.
I don't know, why would you ask me? I barely know Sunn O))) apart from 3 or 4 albums and having seen them live.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Great review, works fine after listening this, I didn worked to me, before I heard album, I read this one when you wrote it, it didn't work, now review work and fits into music
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Reaper_Redeemer
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07.05.2016 - 19:46Rating: 7
Well-written review. I really liked the expression and the knowledge over this.
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