MahoDM Dumbass
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Damn... drama of the year contender?
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Nate612
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My man really did what TMartn did and just did "Heres my dog" bit in the youtube apology lmfao.
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ChapuLviz Tropical Goat ContributorPosts: 347 |
Let the drama to the court, we need good music... fuck to cancellation culture
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Aries Rising
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On the one hand I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but on the other, the bettering myself comment reminds me of Scott Kelly's "apology" and explanation over his domestic abuse.
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Stormm
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From Youtube comments:
"A close friend of mine was harassed relentlessly by David's ex-wife. She is a complete nutcase and was known for being a bully to other girls in the metal scene in Atlanta for years. It's insane to think anyone would actually take her side in this."
Rumours, sure. Just reminder for people screaming WIFE BEATER without any evidence, that there are two sides of a coin.
Also, cut the crap and make some music!
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Zariel
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Century Media have really outdone themselves this time! what a shame for them to succumb to the pressure of an ignorant crowd! Vektor basically had a record deal that would make them more relevant in the metal scene, but here comes CMR supporting the cancel culture (without any evidence of course) and ruining their big opportunity. I am not saying there aint no domestic abuse among metal musicians cause there is, but there are also a lot of false accusations from mostly women involved (especially in the US) which tend to destroy male's personal life due to the fact that most people judge before they think and don't give a benefit of a doubt to a person accused of misbehaviour. CJ McCreery was kicked out of Lorna Shore because what later seemed to be a false accusation by psycho ex gf. It basically ruined his career.
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Luneth
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Meanwhile, Youtubers with tens of thousands of followers are getting exposed as paedophiles and their fans forgiving them with no consequences for the individual.
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Starvynth i c deaf people StaffPosts: 3205 |
So the bottom line is they were dropped by Century Media because a puppy called Sprinkles sprinkled its poop on the stairs?
What a time to be alive...
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Zap
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Written by Starvynth on 28.09.2022 at 14:24
So the bottom line is they were dropped by Century Media because a puppy called Sprinkles sprinkled its poop on the stairs?
What a time to be alive...
That's one small poop for a dog, a giant shitstorm for a thrash metal band.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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That's one small poop for David, one giant leap for Vektor.
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Unhealer Eclecticist
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Written by Starvynth on 28.09.2022 at 14:24
So the bottom line is they were dropped by Century Media because a puppy called Sprinkles sprinkled its poop on the stairs?
What a time to be alive...
Honestly starting the statement with that line makes the all the rest sound like bullshit.
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Saw these guys live last saturday, they fvcking rule! To hell with cancel culture!
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Lanthros
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Yeah no. No matter what the circumstances, you raise a hand to a woman you're a piece of shit. Period.
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Lanthros
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Written by ChapuLviz on 28.09.2022 at 05:14
Let the drama to the court, we need good music... fuck to cancellation culture
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
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Lanthros
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Written by Luneth on 28.09.2022 at 13:42
Meanwhile, Youtubers with tens of thousands of followers are getting exposed as paedophiles and their fans forgiving them with no consequences for the individual.
Got a non extreme rightwing poser qanon source for that?
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Lanthros
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Written by [user id=155460] on 29.09.2022 at 03:40
Saw these guys live last saturday, they fvcking rule! To hell with cancel culture!
To hell with rightwing posers that think someone can be a piece of shit without consequences.
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Luneth
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Written by Lanthros on 29.09.2022 at 03:42
Written by ChapuLviz on 28.09.2022 at 05:14
Let the drama to the court, we need good music... fuck to cancellation culture
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
There's always two sides to every coin, but from his statement, it sounded like she started it with the physical abuse. Let's say his statement is the true statement, she was hitting him over something she could have done in a few seconds. But sure, I don't know them personally, maybe behind the scenes they were as bad as each other, but from all the comments I've seen around his statement, he's getting the "He's a peice of shit" comments while the wife isn't even being mentioned about the alledged slapping and hair pulling.
And yes, I think it's unfair that the band get dropped from the label considering the rest of the members are being punished for nothing, but then you look at the Norwegian black metal scene with the murders and church burnings, Tim Lambesis and the hitman incident, Dagon from Inquisition and the child porn that was found on his computer. All of those incidents are worse than what David alledgely did, but they still get the label deals and exposure. Not saying what David did was right, not saying hitting women (or anyone for that matter) is okay, but the punishment for the band as a whole is harsh, considering CM has MAyhem on their books after all the shit they used to get up to.
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ChapuLviz Tropical Goat ContributorPosts: 347 |
Written by Lanthros on 29.09.2022 at 03:42
Written by ChapuLviz on 28.09.2022 at 05:14
Let the drama to the court, we need good music... fuck to cancellation culture
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
No, I believe in the justice system and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. In addition, everyone has the right to continue working. We should not be prejudiced because it is unfair. Let the drama to the courts
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Jacob Butcher
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I really wish people would put a little more thought into a matter before judging. Simple judging is always easy and only shows that you have an opinion - but not its quality. So in the end only those are heard who have presented their agenda most aggressively - just to be observed all over the world.
In a next step, as a man, I would like to see men stop merely showing solidarity with women - because that is just as clumsy and easy. If something is to get better, every man must first emancipate himself and learn that he can also be uptight, shy, empathetic, soft, poor, unsuccessful and tender, just like all the other qualities that are typically attributed to men. That would be real progress. Solidarity is easy, but women no longer need to be protected and encouraged by men - men just need to stop being assholes. Even among themselves.
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Nate612
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Has anyone in this comment section considered that if david’s side if the story is partly true, david and his wife are both not very good people? just a thought
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Azarath Free as a.. Fish
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^That is of course entirely possible.
And if so, I won't be bothered when Century Media eventually drops her.
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A Real Mönkey
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Written by Lanthros on 29.09.2022 at 03:42
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
People like you seem to forget that the rule is "Innocent until proven guilty", NOT "Guilty until proven innocent."
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RazMan
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Written by Lanthros on 29.09.2022 at 03:42
Written by ChapuLviz on 28.09.2022 at 05:14
Let the drama to the court, we need good music... fuck to cancellation culture
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
Let's see if you are able to change your mind by hearing my story...
I had a girl move in after 2 years of being in a relationship. I was away about half of the time, staying overnight at hotels because of work so I didn't really know what she was doing during that time. After about a year of living together she started acting crazy and drinking heavily. I understood that that had been going on behind my back while I was at work, but now she couldn't control it anymore so it happened even when I was home. She would disappear after work and come home in the morning or the next day. If I was home at that time, she would rage out at me for completely made up things like cheating, stealing, hitting her and what not. Then she'd start physically abusing me, sometimes without warning. I woke up a few times to her strangling me or punching me in the face. Each time she abused me, she made sure that I knew what would happen if I fight back. She had really sketchy friends and she was a master of manipulation. Something both me, her family and friends realized only later. Now why wouldn't I leave? Well, because of fuckers like you, who automatically assume that a woman is correct and needs protection from evil men abusing them. And she portrayed me as the asshole hitting her. But that's not the only reason for me staying. I actually tried to help her, and I had her go see psychiatrists several times and tried to get her to stay sober by finding and engaging her in hobbies. I was still planning to leave when she would get her head straight. That never happened. One morning she came home drunk as hell and I was leaving for work. I opened the front door and she kicked me in the back and I fell down a flight of stairs. I was lying on the ground and she jumped on top of me and started hitting me. So I punched back. Once. She got up, started crying and called all her friends and they convinced her to file a report. She waited until she sobered up and went to the police station. Now what she didn't know was that I had called the cops 2 times before when she was so drunk that she couldn't even remember. Both times I had injuries that were reported by the cops but I didn't press charges. I had also recorded some of her ranting without her knowing and it turned out that she had two assault sentences from before which I didn't know about. I wasn't charged for anything and I left her. She died of an overdose 2 years after that. Now, let's imagine that I hadn't called the cops, and I wouldn't have had the recordings? And people like you would have treated me as guilty? I would've lost my job and I'd be in jail right now. But I did raise my hand to a woman, so by your logic that would've served me right, or?
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Jacob Butcher
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Written by RazMan on 30.09.2022 at 08:13
Let's see if you are able to change your mind by hearing my story...
I had a girl move in after 2 years of being in a relationship. I was away about half of the time, staying overnight at hotels because of work so I didn't really know what she was doing during that time. After about a year of living together she started acting crazy and drinking heavily. I understood that that had been going on behind my back while I was at work, but now she couldn't control it anymore so it happened even when I was home. She would disappear after work and come home in the morning or the next day. If I was home at that time, she would rage out at me for completely made up things like cheating, stealing, hitting her and what not. Then she'd start physically abusing me, sometimes without warning. I woke up a few times to her strangling me or punching me in the face. Each time she abused me, she made sure that I knew what would happen if I fight back. She had really sketchy friends and she was a master of manipulation. Something both me, her family and friends realized only later. Now why wouldn't I leave? Well, because of fuckers like you, who automatically assume that a woman is correct and needs protection from evil men abusing them. And she portrayed me as the asshole hitting her. But that's not the only reason for me staying. I actually tried to help her, and I had her go see psychiatrists several times and tried to get her to stay sober by finding and engaging her in hobbies. I was still planning to leave when she would get her head straight. That never happened. One morning she came home drunk as hell and I was leaving for work. I opened the front door and she kicked me in the back and I fell down a flight of stairs. I was lying on the ground and she jumped on top of me and started hitting me. So I punched back. Once. She got up, started crying and called all her friends and they convinced her to file a report. She waited until she sobered up and went to the police station. Now what she didn't know was that I had called the cops 2 times before when she was so drunk that she couldn't even remember. Both times I had injuries that were reported by the cops but I didn't press charges. I had also recorded some of her ranting without her knowing and it turned out that she had two assault sentences from before which I didn't know about. I wasn't charged for anything and I left her. She died of an overdose 2 years after that. Now, let's imagine that I hadn't called the cops, and I wouldn't have had the recordings? And people like you would have treated me as guilty? I would've lost my job and I'd be in jail right now. But I did raise my hand to a woman, so by your logic that would've served me right, or?
Thank you for sharing your story with us. I can understand your pain very well. I was in a manipulative co-dependency myself for seven years and during that time I had to bring her to psychiatric hospitals several times because she wanted to take her own life. I must admit I never raised my hand to her, but to be honest the majority of those seven years have been one mental breakdown after another for both of us. And of course, even though she is still alive today, I still wasn't able to effect a positive change in her. Nevertheless, it has made me a better and stronger person and I do not regret having resisted all adversities and simply having done the humanly right thing. People are complex, situations are complex - none of this can be resolved with a simple answer.
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Luneth
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Written by A Real Mönkey on 30.09.2022 at 01:34
Written by Lanthros on 29.09.2022 at 03:42
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
People like you seem to forget that the rule is "Innocent until proven guilty", NOT "Guilty until proven innocent."
The Depp/Heard trial was supposed to be the massive eye opener to the world that women can in fact be abusers as well.
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toussa
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Written by Lanthros on 29.09.2022 at 03:42
Written by ChapuLviz on 28.09.2022 at 05:14
Let the drama to the court, we need good music... fuck to cancellation culture
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
Once my mother, after an argument with my stepfather, slapped him, and in return my stepfather slapped her back.
So my stepfather hit my mother, but was he guilty?
That was years ago, they are still together and still get along very well, it was just a rare argument that rarely escalated. My mother actually thinks she totally deserved the slap she received in return.
Yes, we shouldn't hit women, but really, we shouldn't hit anyone.
It reminds me of when I was a kid, the girls at school would tell me "we don't hit girls", to which I would reply "no, we don't hit anyone".
By the way, once, my sister made a scandal with my father, she was in the middle of a teenage crisis, I must say. My father went to look for her and she hid in the locked toilet. She called my mother, thinking that my father wanted to hit her. My mother, even though separated from my father, still got along very well with him and could not conceive that my father would hit my sister. She came anyway, and once she understood the story, it was my mother who slapped my sister ahah. I was a witness, I can tell you, my sister had really gone crazy.
I should specify, my mother was not at all violent, and the rare times when we took slaps, it was often deserved from us (when we fought between us for example to calm us), although obviously some were not ahah.
We all get along very well nowadays, it was just isolated anecdotes with no consequences in our family life.
But all this to say that a little nuance doesn't hurt and don't judge a story if you don't know the details or the version of facts of all parties. Don't be quick to judge others. And know how to forgive those who deserve it, resentment is a bad habit.
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MahoDM Dumbass
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Written by Lanthros on 29.09.2022 at 03:42
Written by ChapuLviz on 28.09.2022 at 05:14
Let the drama to the court, we need good music... fuck to cancellation culture
No. Fuck that. Raise a hand to a woman in ANY circumstances you're disposable trash. It's that fucking simple.
Want to avoid the imaginary righteing poser concept of cancel culture? DONT BE A DICK. It really is that simple.
you should not hit women - what doesn't mean that there's "no reason" to hit a women
there can be plenty of good reasons, still you shouldn't do it
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Ball Fondlers
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Make sure to see them if you get a chance. I saw them again on Saturday, and they are still so damn good. Watching the two guitarists duel off each other is just so awesome
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