musclassia
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Yeah, a mate and I bought tickets (inadvertently second-hand, so hoping they work!) just becuase the line-up looked so immense. The Sunday in particular I dread to see what the clashes are going to be like between the likes of Maiden, KSE, Amen-Ra, Z&A, Amorphis, Nightwish, AIC, Au-Dessus... even bands that would be 'oh I'll check them out' bands during most festivals I've been to (Ensiferum, Septicflesh, At The Gates, Baroness, Iced Earth) are going to be down the list of priorities on Sunday. Add in Neurosis, Enslaved and Oranssi Pazuzu on Saturday and Schammasch, Steven Wilson, Meshuggah on Friday it hopefully should be cracker. It'll be my first Hellfest (and second festival outside the UK after Roadburn 2016) so I'm pretty amped for it.
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There are big names and in some way it can be bigger as WAO, even event name can make people thing wicked things, specially those who are not in a genre. Line up is great!
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Written by musclassia on 01.05.2018 at 13:15
Yeah, a mate and I bought tickets (inadvertently second-hand, so hoping they work!) just becuase the line-up looked so immense. The Sunday in particular I dread to see what the clashes are going to be like between the likes of Maiden, KSE, Amen-Ra, Z&A, Amorphis, Nightwish, AIC, Au-Dessus... even bands that would be 'oh I'll check them out' bands during most festivals I've been to (Ensiferum, Septicflesh, At The Gates, Baroness, Iced Earth) are going to be down the list of priorities on Sunday. Add in Neurosis, Enslaved and Oranssi Pazuzu on Saturday and Schammasch, Steven Wilson, Meshuggah on Friday it hopefully should be cracker. It'll be my first Hellfest (and second festival outside the UK after Roadburn 2016) so I'm pretty amped for it.
I don't know how second-heand tickets work (or don't). Hellfest has its 'official' second hand market, but after that... Seeing the latest Q&A on HF site
Quote: I bought my ticket on Digitick but I can no longer attend the festival: can I have a refund?
No refunds are given, but your ticket may be transfered to someone else (of your own choosing). To make the necessary changes, please contact Digitick by e-mail (hotline@digitick.com) or call (0892 700 840) and have the information ready: name, email address
Maybe you should see with Digitick to be sure everything is in order?
I've never been to Roadburn, but be sure to prepare for a huuuge difference in score (we're speaking about 50000-60000 persons a day, here) 
As for the running order, there's no official version of it online yet, but [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AKDPa0olgL1OQ011y-763d_qEDfIzLF7KXdB4bVwLLY/edit#gid=0]here's a fan-made one], which probably isn't totally exact but close enough  Be warned, you'll have a Maiden / At The Gates clash
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Kennoth
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Isn't a staff member supposed to be objective at least to a certain degree when talking about other genres and artists? Especially when writing an article for a metal website? We get it, you hate nu metal. It's been around for 25 years now though, so it's time to suck it up like a big boy. It's long overdue.
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Written by Kennoth on 03.05.2018 at 04:19
Isn't a staff member supposed to be objective at least to a certain degree when talking about other genres and artists? Especially when writing an article for a metal website?
Uh... Not really?
I honestly can't think of any metal site where the reviews/articles aren't subjective...
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Written by Kennoth on 03.05.2018 at 04:19
Isn't a staff member supposed to be objective at least to a certain degree when talking about other genres and artists? Especially when writing an article for a metal website? We get it, you hate nu metal. It's been around for 25 years now though, so it's time to suck it up like a big boy.
I agree.
Rather to jump on the wagon to bash "Nu-metal" genre altogether, it could have been better if details given about the nu-metal performances.
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nikarg
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Written by Kennoth on 03.05.2018 at 04:19
We get it, you hate nu metal. It's been around for 25 years now though, so it's time to suck it up like a big boy. It's long overdue.
The fact that it has been around for 25 years just means that it's still a big pile of shit, but not nu anymore. Everyone (including staff) is entitled to their opinion so it's you who should suck it up like a big boy.
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nikarg
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Quote: Having both Iron Maiden and Judas Priest is reason enough to go for some
I'll be seeing them on the 19th and 20th of July at Rockwave Festival in Athens so I don't envy you that much
The line-up has many interesting bands, however it does seem to be all over the place.
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Written by Kennoth on 03.05.2018 at 04:19
Isn't a staff member supposed to be objective at least to a certain degree when talking about other genres and artists? Especially when writing an article for a metal website? We get it, you hate nu metal. It's been around for 25 years now though, so it's time to suck it up like a big boy. It's long overdue.
 MWAHAHAHA 
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Written by nikarg on 03.05.2018 at 11:50
Quote: Having both Iron Maiden and Judas Priest is reason enough to go for some
I'll be seeing them on the 19th and 20th of July at Rockwave Festival in Athens so I don't envy you that much 
The line-up has many interesting bands, however it does seem to be all over the place.
yes it is. It's always been the case but it's even more true this year. I certainly don't mind!
As for Maiden and Priest, I'll see a bit of Priest for sure, but Maiden will be more difficult. There's Amorphis before, so if I want a good spot I'd have to leave early (NO WAY) and also miss At The Gates... which isn't really an option either. Sucks - I would have loved to see another full Iron Maiden show - but hey, in festivals there are always tough choices to make!
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Oh, and just for the record on that nü metal thingie: I'm glad Deftones are here to up the quality quite a bit, because, seriously, Limp Bizkit? (and Pleymo are as bad, maybe worse - they do it in French).
You would have seen me giggle like mad, however, if they had booked, say, Slipknot and Clawfinger instead. Or Prophets of Rage (but they played last year, so there's that)....
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nikarg
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Written by Darkside Momo on 03.05.2018 at 12:55
As for Maiden and Priest, I'll see a bit of Priest for sure, but Maiden will be more difficult. There's Amorphis before, so if I want a good spot I'd have to leave early (NO WAY) and also miss At The Gates... which isn't really an option either. Sucks - I would have loved to see another full Iron Maiden show - but hey, in festivals there are always tough choices to make!
Tbh I'd choose Amorphis and At The Gates as well, since they will have new albums out (and both sound great from what I've heard so far), even though I'm a Maiden fanboy.
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Written by nikarg on 03.05.2018 at 14:48
Written by Darkside Momo on 03.05.2018 at 12:55
As for Maiden and Priest, I'll see a bit of Priest for sure, but Maiden will be more difficult. There's Amorphis before, so if I want a good spot I'd have to leave early (NO WAY) and also miss At The Gates... which isn't really an option either. Sucks - I would have loved to see another full Iron Maiden show - but hey, in festivals there are always tough choices to make!
Tbh I'd choose Amorphis and At The Gates as well, since they will have new albums out (and both sound great from what I've heard so far), even though I'm a Maiden fanboy.
Well... in the end it'll also depends on setlist I guess, but since they played Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son (the song) last time I saw them, I don't really see how they could top that - so yeah, Amorphis and At The Gates
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flammeimwind333
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For me this is the weakest lineup ever (regading the headliners). Maiden, for real?? what the hell are they promoting. Their last album was decent but just decent. Now they are just like guns n roses or scorpions. Money grabbers
the best line-up for me would be with Tool, Rammstein and Avenged Sevenfold as the main headliners and with bands like Behemoth, Amon Amarth, Arch Enemy, Amorphis, Epica, Satyricon, Trivium, Heaven Shall Burn, Enslaved, Eluveitie,Delain, Nightwish, Sirenia
I don't give a crap about Maiden who are not promoting a new album but some I don't know what shit. As for Priest, decent album, but not that decent.
Hell between maiden or avenged sevenfold I would take A7X any fucking time. I quit listening to maiden since 2013 (i tried bits of their book of souls but as I said..decent but absolutely nothing interesting).
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Kennoth
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Written by Karlabos on 03.05.2018 at 05:18
Written by Kennoth on 03.05.2018 at 04:19
Isn't a staff member supposed to be objective at least to a certain degree when talking about other genres and artists? Especially when writing an article for a metal website?
Uh... Not really?
I honestly can't think of any metal site where the reviews/articles aren't subjective...
Emphasis on *reviews*. Of course you'll get subjective when doing a review of anything, there is no such thing as a truly objective review anyway. And if your idea of review is "this genre is dogshit" then that's your prerogative, even if it's intellectually cheap.
But this isn't a review, it's an article. Imagine for example Rolling Stone doing a follow up on say, Coachella (or whatever it is that cool kids like nowadays) that goes something like "it's gonna be this many bands, alongside these wankers we don't like". I fucking loathe Rolling Stone, but I don't see it happening. If this is the current standard of journalism Metal Storm is content with, then sure, go nuts. I don't really care all that much anyway given that I'm here once in a blue moon, but then be honest about it. I came to Metal Storm in the first place to find a place that's not as toxic as Metal Archives, and for the most part it has been that place, but if this is the new standard then just say the word so that I can steer away.
Written by nikarg on 03.05.2018 at 11:44
The fact that it has been around for 25 years just means that it's still a big pile of shit, but not nu anymore. Everyone (including staff) is entitled to their opinion so it's you who should suck it up like a big boy.
Oh shit, just don't cut me on all of that edge please.
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MWAHAHAHA 
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flammeimwind333
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And come on. you call A7X and BFMV mainstream when you got freakin Judas Priest and Iron Maiden who are mainstream as frick?
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nikarg
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Written by flammeimwind333 on 04.05.2018 at 15:07
Hell between maiden or avenged sevenfold I would take A7X any fucking time.
Oh well
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quirin
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Written by musclassia on 01.05.2018 at 13:15
Yeah, a mate and I bought tickets (inadvertently second-hand, so hoping they work!) just becuase the line-up looked so immense.
For second-hand tickets, I hear you must modify the owner's ID. Here's a link that should help:
https://www.digitick.com/identification-css5-hellfestfestival-pg1007-pr1101.html
Enjoy
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musclassia
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Written by quirin on 09.05.2018 at 19:24
Written by musclassia on 01.05.2018 at 13:15
Yeah, a mate and I bought tickets (inadvertently second-hand, so hoping they work!) just becuase the line-up looked so immense.
For second-hand tickets, I hear you must modify the owner's ID. Here's a link that should help:
https://www.digitick.com/identification-css5-hellfestfestival-pg1007-pr1101.html
Enjoy
I sent an email to Digitick last week asking about whether something needs to be done to make sure the tickets work for us, but I haven't heard a reply yet, might have to send another one.
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Written by musclassia on 09.05.2018 at 20:08
I sent an email to Digitick last week asking about whether something needs to be done to make sure the tickets work for us, but I haven't heard a reply yet, might have to send another one.
maybe wait until next week, as this is a short work week here in France, with two holidays
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Written by Darkside Momo on 09.05.2018 at 20:12
Written by musclassia on 09.05.2018 at 20:08
I sent an email to Digitick last week asking about whether something needs to be done to make sure the tickets work for us, but I haven't heard a reply yet, might have to send another one.
maybe wait until next week, as this is a short work week here in France, with two holidays 
Haha fair enough, I had waited until Tues/Weds to account for the bank holiday in the UK just in case there was something similar for May Day in France, didn't know you guys had two holidays, get you :p
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Written by musclassia on 10.05.2018 at 12:46
Haha fair enough, I had waited until Tues/Weds to account for the bank holiday in the UK just in case there was something similar for May Day in France, didn't know you guys had two holidays, get you :p
well this week there's the 8th of may (for WWII) and Ascension Day (that's today)
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Written by nikarg on 03.05.2018 at 11:44
Written by Kennoth on 03.05.2018 at 04:19
We get it, you hate nu metal. It's been around for 25 years now though, so it's time to suck it up like a big boy. It's long overdue.
The fact that it has been around for 25 years just means that it's still a big pile of shit, but not nu anymore. Everyone (including staff) is entitled to their opinion so it's you who should suck it up like a big boy.
What I don't get with people like you is, why the fuck do you even bother talking about nu metal if you hate it so much ? It's so childish. Bitching over something you don't like all day long when this thing has no impact on you life doesn't make any sense.
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Liafev
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As for the linup, though it's really good, I think the running order was better last year (at least for me), I have a few empty slots this year. But it'll be nice to have a beer and get some rest.
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Written by Liafev on 15.05.2018 at 10:35
As for the linup, though it's really good, I think the running order was better last year (at least for me), I have a few empty slots this year. But it'll be nice to have a beer and get some rest.
time to rest is always good
BTW, some big running order changes: http://www.hellfest.fr/en/running-order-a-jour/
With Tombs added - nice! - ; also, the Amorphis / arch Enemy clash is no more (I had a friend who was pissed by this one)
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nikarg
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Written by Liafev on 15.05.2018 at 10:34
What I don't get with people like you is, why the fuck do you even bother talking about nu metal if you hate it so much ? It's so childish. Bitching over something you don't like all day long when this thing has no impact on you life doesn't make any sense.
It is actually the only comment I've ever made about nu metal on this site, so you can hardly call it "bitching all day long". Also I don't hate nu metal, in all fairness I don't give a flying fuck. My comment was mainly a reply to the phrase "suck it up like a big boy". Read again, you might get it this time around.
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Written by nikarg on 15.05.2018 at 14:06
Written by Liafev on 15.05.2018 at 10:34
What I don't get with people like you is, why the fuck do you even bother talking about nu metal if you hate it so much ? It's so childish. Bitching over something you don't like all day long when this thing has no impact on you life doesn't make any sense.
It is actually the only comment I've ever made about nu metal on this site, so you can hardly call it "bitching all day long". Also I don't hate nu metal, in all fairness I don't give a flying fuck. My comment was mainly a reply to the phrase "suck it up like a big boy". Read again, you might get it this time around.
My bad, the "like you" part was only based on the other guy's comment I must confess. But the rest of the sentence remains true, even though it might not apply to you then, sorry.
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