Baz Anderson StaffPosts: 13253 |
yes! this is my favourite Iced Earth album I must say.. everything finally comes together for the band with Tim singing, and for once Tim sounds like he fits somewhere - instead of being that Rob Halford impersonator and ex-Judas Priest singer, this albums feels like he has finally found a good home
you're right about the melodies - they are probably the best part of the album.. "Setian Massacre", "Ten Thousand Strong", "The Clouding", "Infiltrate and Assimilate" and "Framing Armageddon" are my favourites of the album.. you have just love the opening of "Ten Thousand Strong" or how epic the title track is!
it took a while for this to grow on me, but I am glad I gave it the opportunity.. I just hope the part II of this will be of the same quality or better
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
This is their best in years but still not as good as the ones with Matt Barlow on vocals (except for Horror Show cause that is crap) or the other guy.
My biggest problem with this one is that too many songs are mid tempo to balladesque
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BrightNight
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22.09.2007 - 16:31Rating: 8
I agree with you jeff. This album shows that Jon Schaffer is back in the way Iced Earth was doing in the older days. I love this album and think its one of the best in the collection. It took me some time to get used to Tims voice (who wouldnt after those years with a godly voice like Barlow's). Barlow cant be equalled but neither can Tim in his own way!
Tim Owens found Jon's music and his voice fits perfectly! The first album with Tim as singer (the glorious burden) was still written by Jon with barlows voice in the back of his Head so it was a uncertain for the most of us where this band was going.
But it can be clearly heard that the musicians are fitting perfectly togheter on this one.
Hopefully the second part in februari 2008 will be as good (Jon says its even better) till then ive enough pleasure listening this one!
Iced Fucking Earth is back
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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I WANNA this album, damn I wanna it
Good job Jeff
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Callo
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This album is not far from a masterpiece. Best they've done since Burnt Offerings. And if someone still has the balls to diss Tim Owens after hearing this album, I say fuck you, 'cause here Ripper gives the best vocal efforts of his career, and boy how fine they are.
Let's hope Schaffer gives us another killer with Part 2, which is supposed to be more up-tempo and aggressive.
UP THE ICED!
BTW I really think you should do some fine tuning with the rating colors. "8", meaning "Very Good", typed in yellow/orange makes it look less than it is.
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Written by Callo on 22.09.2007 at 18:00
This album is not far from a masterpiece. Best they've done since Burnt Offerings. And if someone still has the balls to diss Tim Owens after hearing this album, I say fuck you, 'cause here Ripper gives the best vocal efforts of his career, and boy how fine they are.
Let's hope Schaffer gives us another killer with Part 2, which is supposed to be more up-tempo and aggressive.
UP THE ICED!
Wow, maybe I should give this album a chance after all. Iced Earth is great, but I gave up on them after Barlow... I'm glad to find out I was wrong!
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BTW I really think you should do some fine tuning with the rating colors. "8", meaning "Good", typed in yellow/orange makes it look less than it is.
I'll second that, I could never figure it out either. Orange looks like a warning.
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Valentin B Iconoclast
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22.09.2007 - 18:44Rating: 8
damn that ending of "framing armageddon"... i said in my rejected review that it's so heavy you'll throw "stormrider" and "violate" out the fucking window! and i mean it.. FRAAAAAMINGGG AARMAAAGEEEDOOOOOON!!!!
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Hmm, sounds good. I was turned off to this band after the past few releases, but maybe I will give em another shot.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Valentin B on 22.09.2007 at 18:44
damn that ending of "framing armageddon"... i said in my rejected review that it's so heavy you'll throw "stormrider" and "violate" out the fucking window! and i mean it.. FRAAAAAMINGGG AARMAAAGEEEDOOOOOON!!!!
Havy? Midtempo and ballads with one or two faster tracks. Strange concept of heavy you have
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Valentin B Iconoclast
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22.09.2007 - 19:15Rating: 8
noo, i meant the song
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Written by Valentin B on 22.09.2007 at 19:15
noo, i meant the song
Ahaaaa now I see, though I do disagree.
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Ten Thousand Strong and Something Wicked (Part 1) are wicked blasting tracks that I already love, the rest of the lot aren't quite as memorable. I'll need to listen more to the whole thing.
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Darkside Momo Retired ElitePosts: 9089 |
An excellent album, but much more progressive than evertething else Jon Shaffer has done before.
Really good work of composing, but there is a lack of anthemic heavy metal songs (2-3 on a 19-tracks album)
Whatever, it reflects so well the story that it's GREAT !
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This album just get better and better the more you listen to it. I really hope that all those who gave up on Iced Earth and Schaffer after Barlow left will give this album a try and change their mind!
Can't wait to see them live and get my hands on Part 2
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insanity.peppers
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hmm maybe its worth checking out after all
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I absolutely love this album, and I think its their best in 10 years. Any fan of the original trilogy should enjoy this.
Some people are expression dissapointments due to its slower structure. I think it is brilliant, as the story calls for slower songs due to its complete sense of sadness and loss. I am willing to bet a healthy sum of money Part 2 will be faster (perhaps the song Framing Armageddon is a hint of what to come?) as it will be more focused on Set Abominae and the counterattack of the Setians.
Finally (thank God, finally) got the Alive in Athens DVD today. Thats what I will be watching for the next several hours.
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Promonex Cathemeral ElitePosts: 9720 |
23.09.2007 - 12:17Rating: 6
I've been trying to let this grow on me for a while now, but somehow it just won't work. Granted, "Ten Thousand Strong" is an awesome song and it wouldn't work with any voice other than Ripper's, but somehow the rest of the album lacks of memorable moments. The songs are good while you listen to them, but after the album finishes you don't remember any of them except for 10k Strong. IMHO the last really good album by Schaffer was Demons & Wizards' debut in 2000. Re-using the motifs from the original Something Wicked album doesn't make this a second Something Wicked - at least not quality-wise.
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This is what I love about Iced Earth. I love concept albums and two parters are even greater, so here's hoping part II can maintain the momentum of this new release.
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Jason W. Razorbliss StaffPosts: 3523 |
24.09.2007 - 11:34Rating: 7
Outside of "Ten Thousand Strong" and "Something Wicked," this album is easy to listen but also easy to forget. I stand by what I posted in the Iced Earth thread, that there are too many mid-paced tracks with riffs I can barely recall. Tim's vocals have never been a problem for me; the songwriting is here. I'm already bored! "Ten Thousand Strong" will make it easily to my 2007's mix-CD tracklist, but that'll be the only thing I'll be listening to. A 6.5 from me. : I don't believe Iced Earth is "back." They are just better than the terrible "Glorious Burden" release.
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Storchillarn
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24.09.2007 - 23:13Rating: 8
Really good review, you nailed most things in a concise way. The production could have been better and more "in your face" crispy but overall that's nothing I can complain about. I think Tim's vocals on "The Glorious Burden" was some of the best stuff I've heard in a long time. It topped this album on many parts but he really shines on Domino Decree, Framing Armageddon and The Clouding whereas the verse in "Retribution.." sounds more strained. Kick ass album!
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Lucas Mr. Noise ElitePosts: 13427 |
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This was the first time I heard Tim Owens sing, and DAMN. He sucks.
Seriously, I am deleting this album right away.
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Written by Jason W. on 24.09.2007 at 11:34
Outside of "Ten Thousand Strong" and "Something Wicked," this album is easy to listen but also easy to forget. I stand by what I posted in the Iced Earth thread, that there are too many mid-paced tracks with riffs I can barely recall. Tim's vocals have never been a problem for me; the songwriting is here. I'm already bored! "Ten Thousand Strong" will make it easily to my 2007's mix-CD tracklist, but that'll be the only thing I'll be listening to. A 6.5 from me. : I don't believe Iced Earth is "back." They are just better than the terrible "Glorious Burden" release.
I'm right with you on this one. I just got the album tracks off Limewire and tried them out. I gave up about a half hour through. The music has no edge to it - nothing truly compelling or memorable. I actually don't much care for Ripper, either. He just doesn't cut it in IE. His voice reminds me of 80s glam metal - generic and boring. He was better as an impersonation of Rob Halford. Sure he can sing, but IE needs somebody distinctive like Barlow. The whole album sounds like Glorious Burden, but with more polish. Sadly, there's no point polishing something that doesn't shine much in the first place. I'm going to put on some Alive in Athens and leave it at that.
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Ever since listening to "The Glorious Burden", I have been hooked to these guys. I'll get this album for sure.
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Written by [user id=5630] on 30.09.2007 at 03:28
Ever since listening to "The Glorious Burden", I have been hooked to these guys. I'll get this album for sure.
Then take my advice and NEVER listen to Alive In Athens. If you ever find out how good Iced Earth used to be, you won't care for Framing Armageddon (or Glorious Burden) at all!
BTW you know you can add "Framing Armageddon" to your Wishlist, right? (If you really, really want it... )
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Written by [user id=22888] on 30.09.2007 at 04:43
Written by [user id=5630] on 30.09.2007 at 03:28
Ever since listening to "The Glorious Burden", I have been hooked to these guys. I'll get this album for sure.
Then take my advice and NEVER listen to Alive In Athens. If you ever find out how good Iced Earth used to be, you won't care for Framing Armageddon (or Glorious Burden) at all!
BTW you know you can add "Framing Armageddon" to your Wishlist, right? (If you really, really want it... )
Well, some time ago I did listen to a time when they had Matt Barlow on vocals. I didn't really like his vocals, considering the fact that I listened to Tim Owens before I listened to Matt Barlow. As for me, I'm going to eat lots of spaghetti!
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Jeeers
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30.09.2007 - 14:43Rating: 6
A boring album with very few good moments. As boring as The Glorious Burden. I think Tim Owens just isn't the right vocalist for Iced Earth.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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finaly hear it I hear that thay some how inspirated of Blind Guardian 'Nighgtfall in Midlle Earth' those werry small parts and songs in this album somehow wa slike bG, but diference arehere was muisc, and I also hear lil Demons n Wizards sound and new iE sound in The Glorious Burden and The Horror Show days, this is interesting album, I dunno how vote
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I miss Matt Barlow's voice. I've listened to this album numerous times, and I second what four or five people have said: aside from "Ten Thousand Strong" (and in my opinion, the Overture), there's just nothing that grabs me about the album. I absolutely LOVED Barlow's work with Iced Earth- he gave it that gruff edge that fit so perfectly. Owens' voice isn't bad, but it's not Iced Earth. Not only are the tracks mostly un-memorable, they're also lacking Barlow's prowess. I hope "Revelation Abomination" is better, but nothing will beat old Iced Earth.
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Please no more complaining about Matt Barlow. I'm tired of it. it's been years now... please...just let it go... let it go... music isn't the end of the world, and if people can just accept that time brings change, Then maybe we could look into the future and not expect the same. That's the problem many bands face, especially Iced Earth, as they change their tune as they progress, the older fans become very disappointed. Iced Earth wasn't 'Better' in the past per se, they were just Different. That said, I Agree with the review and I believe this is the best Iced Earth album yet. I can't wait for the next.
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IMO this is the best heavy metal album of the year..... only if Judas Priest can beat them but i doubt they can do that.
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