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An album such as this deserves a good review, well done Valaskjalf. I agree, Northwind was a treat for the ears and this album is definitely a step up.
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Alright, now you convinced me to check this band out
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07.10.2009 - 06:59Rating: 10
Totally in agreement... Falconer is back... and better tha ever!!!
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treptolemus aphotic_zoning
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I've listened this album - checked the songs & lyrics, it's good but i don't like the fact that i don't understand... the Swedish! English please! (Aall songsss!)
Anyway i learnt some things about Sweden, history, battles & ships massive explosions that didn't know!
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Falconer is not bad at all musically. Problem I have with this band is I find vocals boring as hell.
Anyway, when it comes to Stefan Weinerhall, I must say that I prefer Mithotyn ten times to Falconer. I would be much more pleased if Falconer never would have seen the light of day and Mithotyn carried on instead.
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Written by Lord_Regnier on 11.10.2009 at 01:24
I prefer Mithotyn ten times to Falconer. I would be much more pleased if Falconer never would have seen the light of day and Mithotyn carried on instead.
Well that makes no sense...its like comparing apples to oranges. The fact that its two completely different styles of metal (folk influences aside) makes it impossible to compare, yet from the point of view of how challenging the music is falconer is much more intricate than Mithotyn. I remember an interview with Weinerhall a few years ago and they asked him something along those similar lines, if he would ever do something like that again (Mithotyn) and he said no, because it would mean he would have to go back to writing "less good" music - and I agree. Mithotyn was quite primitive compared to Falconer and one cant blame a musician for wanting to do something more enriching and fullfilling for himself.
The simple fact that you "prefer" what he had done before to what he is doing now would only hold merit if he had changed over from writing good music to worse music, which he has not hence there is very little merit in what you are saying. Not trying to have a go at you at all, dont misunderstand me, I just find your comment to be purely based on taste and one can never only base your argument around that without looking at the quality of the music and I think you will find that when you compare falconer and mithotyn MUSICALLY its much more mature, skilled and well crafted - therefor better.
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Written by treptolemus on 11.10.2009 at 01:10
I've listened this album - checked the songs & lyrics, it's good but i don't like the fact that i don't understand... the Swedish! English please! (Aall songsss!)
Anyway i learnt some things about Sweden, history, battles & ships massive explosions that didn't know!
Why should a SWEDISH band who's album concept is based around SWEDEN's history etc only cater for english people? That makes no sense...surely the fact that falconer isnt a straight-up powermetal band and actually have a fair bit of folk metal influences within their music, justifies them actually singing in their native tongue?
Fair enough, some of us put a lot of emphasis on lyrics and want to learn more from a band and what they're trying to say, but dont you think the Swedish adds character to the album?
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Written by [user id=1909] on 11.10.2009 at 02:09
Written by Lord_Regnier on 11.10.2009 at 01:24
I prefer Mithotyn ten times to Falconer. I would be much more pleased if Falconer never would have seen the light of day and Mithotyn carried on instead.
Well that makes no sense...its like comparing apples to oranges. The fact that its two completely different styles of metal (folk influences aside) makes it impossible to compare, yet from the point of view of how challenging the music is falconer is much more intricate than Mithotyn. I remember an interview with Weinerhall a few years ago and they asked him something along those similar lines, if he would ever do something like that again (Mithotyn) and he said no, because it would mean he would have to go back to writing "less good" music - and I agree. Mithotyn was quite primitive compared to Falconer and one cant blame a musician for wanting to do something more enriching and fullfilling for himself.
The simple fact that you "prefer" what he had done before to what he is doing now would only hold merit if he had changed over from writing good music to worse music, which he has not hence there is very little merit in what you are saying. Not trying to have a go at you at all, dont misunderstand me, I just find your comment to be purely based on taste and one can never only base your argument around that without looking at the quality of the music and I think you will find that when you compare falconer and mithotyn MUSICALLY its much more mature, skilled and well crafted - therefor better.
I agree that comparing both bands is comparing too different things. Mithotyn was melodic Black Metal, while Falconer is Powermetal.
However, I totally disagree with your comparison on a musical level. Mithotyn's music was faster and harder to play than Falconer's music. Imo, that's exactly what Weinerhall did: changed over from writing good music to worse music.
As for this 'mature' argument, it's bullshit to me, as I consider the word mature applied to metal always means softer and boring.
Your argument about Falconer's music being better is purely based on tastes, no matter how hard you try to make it look otherwise.
Better stop it there as, to use your own words, there's very little merit in what you're saying, from my point of view.
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Well then in that case we better agree to disagree....we do however agree that the other one is talking bullshit so yeah, lets leave it there.
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Written by Lord_Regnier on 11.10.2009 at 01:24
Falconer is not bad at all musically. Problem I have with this band is I find vocals boring as hell.
Anyway, when it comes to Stefan Weinerhall, I must say that I prefer Mithotyn ten times to Falconer. I would be much more pleased if Falconer never would have seen the light of day and Mithotyn carried on instead.
Would've it not been better to end your remark at the first paragraph? If you prefer Mithotyn, then have a listen to their music and comment on it. Obviously they changed music styles, because they felt the need to progress and that is not opinion based if it comes from the musicians themselves (afterall they make the music we only listen to it and rant about not being as pleased as before). So, you don't really like Falconer? So why even comment on their newest album? Saying their not bad musically and then refering to their previous project, has nothing to do with this section - I mean, I didn't read anything about "do you like Falconer more or Mithotyn?".
So I suppose it was unnescessary to even add that, don't you think?
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Written by [user id=98889] on 11.10.2009 at 14:19
Written by Lord_Regnier on 11.10.2009 at 01:24
Falconer is not bad at all musically. Problem I have with this band is I find vocals boring as hell.
Anyway, when it comes to Stefan Weinerhall, I must say that I prefer Mithotyn ten times to Falconer. I would be much more pleased if Falconer never would have seen the light of day and Mithotyn carried on instead.
Would've it not been better to end your remark at the first paragraph? If you prefer Mithotyn, then have a listen to their music and comment on it. Obviously they changed music styles, because they felt the need to progress and that is not opinion based if it comes from the musicians themselves (afterall they make the music we only listen to it and rant about not being as pleased as before). So, you don't really like Falconer? So why even comment on their newest album? Saying their not bad musically and then refering to their previous project, has nothing to do with this section - I mean, I didn't read anything about "do you like Falconer more or Mithotyn?".
So I suppose it was unnescessary to even add that, don't you think?
There's a very simple solution to this: if you think a comment is unnecessary, then don't read it. No one forces you.
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I have to congratulate you on stating the obvious, yet again.
I'm well aware that I'm not being force to read your comment, however comments relating to an album review are pointless if they don't 'inform' a person who hasn't listened to the record.
Therefore forums on a band like Falconer is a much more suited place for comments like yours.
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Written by [user id=98889] on 11.10.2009 at 14:35
I have to congratulate you on stating the obvious, yet again.
I'm well aware that I'm not being force to read your comment, however comments relating to an album review are pointless if they don't 'inform' a person who hasn't listened to the record.
Therefore forums on a band like Falconer is a much more suited place for comments like yours.
I can't deny that there's some truth in your words. It was kinda off-topic, indeed.
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Written by [user id=1909] on 11.10.2009 at 02:17
Written by treptolemus on 11.10.2009 at 01:10
I've listened this album - checked the songs & lyrics, it's good but i don't like the fact that i don't understand... the Swedish! English please! (Aall songsss!)
Anyway i learnt some things about Sweden, history, battles & ships massive explosions that didn't know!
Why should a SWEDISH band who's album concept is based around SWEDEN's history etc only cater for english people? That makes no sense...surely the fact that falconer isnt a straight-up powermetal band and actually have a fair bit of folk metal influences within their music, justifies them actually singing in their native tongue?
Fair enough, some of us put a lot of emphasis on lyrics and want to learn more from a band and what they're trying to say, but dont you think the Swedish adds character to the album?
Of course musicians can use their native language (folk style, adds special character & everything) - no question about this! But help me with this : because i don't own the cd (i said checked it) the booklet has the lyrics (both languages?) and with a translation, or at least few words what they're talking about?
An example of this (most of us know it) is: when i bought the album victory songs from ensiferum they had Finnish lyrics, but they included a translation in the booklet. That's fair, i think.
On youtube i watched a nice videoclip of the song "Carnival of disgust" it has different ending from the song (for those who haven't checked it yet!)
I guess i'm the kind of listener who is focused on the lyrics more!
(the truth is that i kinda like writing some stuff too!)
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Nah cant help you there dude, I just checked the cd and they dont have the english translation for "Vargaskal" or "Skula Skorpa Skalk" in the booklet. Not in the edition I have, I have the regular album without the bonus tracks so perhaps the limited edition has them.
Probably your best bet is to ask someone here on MS who is from Sweden to translate it for, just dont ask "Bad English";D haha
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Windrider Raureif
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16.03.2011 - 21:52Rating: 9
Great review! One of the very few Power Metal Bands I like...
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