X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Meh.
I Respect your opinion and sort of agree with the ratings except the songwritting. I found it pretty good. I would give it a 8,0 overall easily.
There was no purpose on waiting that Autopsy was going to take a risk. No point of being dissapoint but I guess that's just me. If shit's not broken, don't fix it. So I won't even comment on the originality part.
Like Craig wrote in the about the latest slayer:
It's Autopsy folks... what the hell did you expect?
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
20.07.2011 - 23:50Rating: 8
Written by X-Ray Rod on 20.07.2011 at 23:29
Meh.
I Respect your opinion and sort of agree with the ratings except the songwritting. I found it pretty good. I would give it a 8,0 overall easily.
There was no purpose on waiting that Autopsy was going to take a risk. No point of being dissapoint but I guess that's just me. If shit's not broken, don't fix it. So I won't even comment on the originality part.
Like Craig wrote in the about the latest slayer:
It's Autopsy folks... what the hell did you expect?
I didn't expect them to do anything too risky, but the dominating feeling I got from this was definitely minor boredom. I liked a lot of it, but none of it really got me going.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Probems with this album is that it's too long. Had they kept it to 45 minutes it would have been so much stronger,
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.07.2011 at 23:55
Probems with this album is that it's too long. Had they kept it to 45 minutes it would have been so much stronger,
Indeed, it would have been extremely tight. Taking off 20 minutes of what might have been filler would have mhelped the good riffs to shine a little more.
Other than that, I don't see any problem.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 21.07.2011 at 00:03
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.07.2011 at 23:55
Probems with this album is that it's too long. Had they kept it to 45 minutes it would have been so much stronger,
Indeed, it would have been extremely tight. Taking off 20 minutes of what might have been filler would have mhelped the good riffs to shine a little more.
Other than that, I don't see any problem.
Me too. I think if I were to rate it I would now give it an 8.1 whereas had it been shorter would come to an 8.8 or thereabouts.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
21.07.2011 - 01:48Rating: 7
Too long and found the vocals incredibly annoying at parts... would have been much better cut to 40 minutes or so for starters.
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For the people saying that it's to long-You could always listen to half of it in one sitting and half in another sitting. As far as the album, it sounds like it was caught somewhere back in time (LOL!!!!!!!!!!) but is still extremly good. Just good ol' doomy death metal done right.
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21.07.2011 - 04:37Rating: 8
I for one, disagree here. Autopsy set out to make a death metal album the way Autopsy makes their albums. Great riffs and that ever present haunting doomy sound they have with the psychotic, near sociopath like vocals of Chris Reifert color the entire album well. Now I feel that the reviewer went into this expecting to hear some reinvention by this band and felt that the album should be discredited because they didn't try anything new. Well first...what to try in the case of Autopsy? Secondly it was pretty clear that the reviewer is into more progressive music, so why listen to an OSDM band and feel surprised enough by them not going a different direction enough for it to negatively impact it's overall score. Thirdly, it seems these days that most reviews go one of two ways...either the album is credited for being decent and solid but loses out on a good score because they didn't innovate their style, or the album is smacked down and crucified and hailed as the next "St.Anger" when they either innovated or changed their style or specific elements. Was it Mental Funeral? Nah, not even close due to the fact that they pretty much benchmarked their sound. It was stronger than Shitfun, and proved that they still have it and have nothing more to prove. But in the end I would have given it an 8-8.5 simply because to go on hiatus as long as they did and to come back with an album stronger than the preceding one with as many great moments as their classic albums, and given with the quality of recent OSDM comebacks (Pestilence, Morbid Angel) this far exceeds the expectations for me as a listener at this point with these releases.
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I was and I'm still a huge fan of this band ("Mental Funeral" and "Shitfun" are my favs, but the rest of their discography including "Tomb Within ep" is also fucking fantastic!), but somehow this album sounds to me like their worst work to date...don't know, I find it somehow lame...last two songs are just crap, I simply cannot go through them (that Eric vocal is just lame)...also, it somehow lacks in that sick doomy parts (In a Grip of Winter, Praise the Children, Mutant Village...), here it all sounds like Black Sabbath rip off, to say too hard rockish...another weak point is production, it is neither dark nor heavy nor murky, it has no that classic Autopsy vibe...but on the bright side, Reifert is still a beast of a growler, some nice riffs here and there, good ol' solos...7 is my score...
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Slayer666
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I'm not much of a Death metal fan myself, but this album sure has some fucking sick songs.
Who cares if they didn't innovate or take risks? Like you said yourself, this is 2011, not 1991. Pretty much everything has been done already. Any innovation we may expect from any genre will not come from an old-school, classic band like Autopsy, but from newer bands, trying to make something new so they get noticed.
Sure, Morbid Angel experimented, but I said innovation, not total god damn shite posing as innovation.
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
21.07.2011 - 23:34Rating: 8
Novel coming through...
I really regret not mentioning the length. So much of the boredom probably stemmed from it.
As to the originality issue, I brought it up, but was pretty careful to say that I was disappointed, not necessarily that you should be. Some reviewer arrogance, I know. I enjoy old-style stuff a lot, and frankly don't want much of it to change, but I expect energy, and sometimes flirting with other genres is a good source of it. And I don't get the sense that Autopsy had much when making this. Not sure though.
I've poked around and read other reviews for this and almost all of them are overwhelmingly positive. "Autopsy=legends, therefore, they don't need to make excellent music to make an excellent album. As long as they don't pull a Morbid Angel" and so on. It's a good album (thus the 7.2) but not anything very memorable. To me. So I focused on the negatives.
Bottom line, though, is that I fucked up by focusing on originality over the length of this. Even if the reason why the length is a real issue is because in it no risks are taken. I didn't find that newish Ex Dementia album boring because it's really only 19 minutes long, for example.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by wormdrink414 on 21.07.2011 at 23:34
Novel coming through...
Pfff you're just writing that because you're just into prog-like music you poser! XD
Seriously, that comment from that user cracked me up.
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Yeah i gotta agree about the riffs...they are still pretty brutal!!!
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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This review proves yet again, that it's impossible for a band to please everyone no matter what they do! Morbid Angel were hacked to pieces for making changes to their sound, and now we have Autopsy being criticised for sticking to their signature sound... you truly can't please everyone.
I agree with a number of people here that the album would have had more impact had it been shorter. But I can see it from Autopsy's point of view though... none of the songs are actually bad, or even filler, so I can see why Autopsy didn't want to throw any of them away. But they could have chopped 4 songs off, and saved them for another EP or something, and the album would have benefitted greatly IMO. I really can't fault the songs themselves though... even with a slightly "cleaner" production, Autopsy still manage to sound sick, nasty and depraved, and they have retained the power to genuinely unsettle. "Dirty Gore Whore" in particular, with it's deranged vocals, and crazed, winding riffs sounds like the product of an actual psychotic mind! Brrr...
I definitely disagree with the review, and as long as you're expecting nothing but pure old school Autopsy-like goodness, then I see very few people disliking the new album. I myself would give it somewhere between 8.5 and 9.0. Which would probably increase to 9.5 if it was a little bit shorter. xD
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Angelic Storm on 29.07.2011 at 10:52
... none of the songs are actually bad, or even filler, so I can see why Autopsy didn't want to throw any of them away. But they could have chopped 4 songs off, and saved them for another EP or something, and the album would have benefitted greatly IMO.
I agree with you, that would have been a great idea musically (even marketing-wise, so everybody wins!)
Or you can do as Void eater said: listen to one half and then the other later XD. But nah, I want my brutality without pauses.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
30.07.2011 - 04:23Rating: 7
Written by X-Ray Rod on 30.07.2011 at 01:27
Or you can do as Void eater said: listen to one half and then the other later XD. But nah, I want my brutality without pauses.
or just listen to something better. as with the latest Exodus, 'too long' implies more than just too much length in time, means not enough editing of ideas. not enough trimming the fat. means filler.
i had a hard time sitting through it without getting bored. and when you get bored little more than halfway through something, it reduces your incentive to resume the experience later.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by BitterCOld on 30.07.2011 at 04:23
or just listen to something better. as with the latest Exodus, 'too long' implies more than just too much length in time, means not enough editing of ideas. not enough trimming the fat. means filler.
i had a hard time sitting through it without getting bored. and when you get bored little more than halfway through something, it reduces your incentive to resume the experience later.
Meh, we have different thoughts of what too long means in that case.
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Written by BitterCOld on 30.07.2011 at 04:23
Written by X-Ray Rod on 30.07.2011 at 01:27
Or you can do as Void eater said: listen to one half and then the other later XD. But nah, I want my brutality without pauses.
or just listen to something better. as with the latest Exodus, 'too long' implies more than just too much length in time, means not enough editing of ideas. not enough trimming the fat. means filler.
i had a hard time sitting through it without getting bored. and when you get bored little more than halfway through something, it reduces your incentive to resume the experience later.
That new Exodus album was an interesting one... I too agree that it was too long in both those ways, but naturally my listening style isn't to listen to whole albums at once and like waiting at the bus stop, a quick song or two while at Tim Hortons... It smashes. I guess it really all depends on the listener.
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